Masks

Graham · 11-08-2020 04:17PM

An article in today's independent is likely to send some of our regular thread contributors into some sort of nervous episode:

Wear masks and avoid kissing during sex to manage Covid-19 risk, sexual health charity recommends

:pac:

odyssey06 · 11-08-2020 04:19PM

Graham wrote: »

An article in today's independent is likely to send some of our regular thread contributors into some sort of nervous episode:
Wear masks and avoid kissing during sex to manage Covid-19 risk, sexual health charity recommends
:pac:

It's kinda hard to kiss with a mask ON, I would have thought...

Clearly mask wearing is some sort of conspiracy by those of us less blessed in the looks departments to have a legit reason to hide our ugly mugs

joeguevara · 11-08-2020 04:23PM

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

If your parents and grandparents are reasonably healthy and independent with no underlying health conditions they'll be fine.
'Anyone' over 60 being at risk is just scaremongering, most people in their 60s are healthy if they look after themselves and most do.
I'll skip the bit about those in their 50s.

Can I ask what no underlying health conditions are? Do you know how many over 60s there are in Ireland with NO underlying health conditions?

Multipass · 11-08-2020 04:25PM

Graham wrote: »

An article in today's independent is likely to send some of our regular thread contributors into some sort of nervous episode:

Wear masks and avoid kissing during sex to manage Covid-19 risk, sexual health charity recommends

:pac:

What world are they living in, really? imagine even printing something this ridiculous.

joeguevara · 11-08-2020 04:27PM

Multipass wrote: »

What world are they living in, really? imagine even printing something this ridiculous.

Well the HSE did produce a leaflet last week with one of the recommendations to reduce transmissions was online s3x and wnaking regularly so not to be community spreading.

Multipass · 11-08-2020 04:28PM

joeguevara wrote: »

Well the HSE did produce a leaflet last week with one of the recommendations to reduce transmissions was online s3x and wnaking regularly so not to be community spreading.

Were there any pictures? :pac:

joeguevara · 11-08-2020 04:29PM

Multipass wrote: »

Were there any pictures? :pac:

Neither pictures or recommended sites; Ridiculous really.

Graham · 11-08-2020 04:30PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Clearly mask wearing is some sort of conspiracy by those of us less blessed in the looks departments to have a legit reason to hide our ugly mugs

That awkward moment just before you get down to it when you ask your new partner if they'd mind keeping their mask on and turning away from you :eek:

railer201 · 11-08-2020 04:32PM

Yes: valved

Graham wrote: »

An article in today's independent is likely to send some of our regular thread contributors into some sort of nervous episode:

Wear masks and avoid kissing during sex to manage Covid-19 risk, sexual health charity recommends

:pac:

The masks thing is starting to sound a bit kinky now - that should bring in a few more converts from the anti-mask camp.

joeguevara · 11-08-2020 04:33PM

Graham wrote: »

That awkward moment just before you get down to it when you ask your new partner if they'd mind keeping their mask on and turning away from you :eek:

More awkward if they say it to you.

joeguevara · 11-08-2020 04:33PM

railer201 wrote: »

The masks thing is starting to sound a bit kinky now - that should bring in a few more converts from the anti-mask camp.

'Now with added snooker ball'

xhomelezz · 11-08-2020 05:13PM

Yes: valved

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Good lad. You can either argue my points or try and belittle me for a few measly thanks and internet points. You decide.

He doesn't have to belittle you, you just doing it well on your own..

RoYoBo · 11-08-2020 05:14PM

Yes: valved

Graham wrote: »

That awkward moment just before you get down to it when you ask your new partner if they'd mind keeping their mask on and turning away from you :eek:

Ah stop, I'm crying with laughter here and it's destroying my mask!

As for the following: "In the guidance, the charity advised the best sexual partner during the pandemic is yourself or someone you live with". Take care everyone and lock your bedroom doors!

xhomelezz · 11-08-2020 05:17PM

Yes: valved

RoYoBo wrote: »

Ah stop, I'm crying with laughter here and it's destroying my mask!

As for the following: "In the guidance, the charity advised the best sexual partner during the pandemic is yourself or someone you live with". Take care everyone and lock your bedroom doors!

They better get a bit more specific, that part could be a bit confusing for some..:D

joeguevara · 11-08-2020 05:18PM

RoYoBo wrote: »

Ah stop, I'm crying with laughter here and it's destroying my mask!

As for the following: "In the guidance, the charity advised the best sexual partner during the pandemic is yourself or someone you live with". Take care everyone and lock your bedroom doors!

Why did I immediately think of jay in the in between ears with a mask and snorkel....even has Brady’s ham.

https://youtu.be/qBwsdOxPVZc

Sconsey · 11-08-2020 05:30PM

No: other

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

If your parents and grandparents are reasonably healthy and independent with no underlying health conditions they'll be fine.
'Anyone' over 60 being at risk is just scaremongering, most people in their 60s are healthy if they look after themselves and most do.
I'll skip the bit about those in their 50s.

You seem to know more about this than the HSE, and their teams of consultants and medical experts. Please do enlighten us on your qualifications, why haven't they hired you and your insider knowledge on the risk of Corona?

weldoninhio · 11-08-2020 05:57PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

I posted some studies earlier that argued for the efficacy of masks. You've claimed that they're of no benefit whatsoever. Asked previously but will ask again; have you studies that back that up which we can get a look at?

Masks help stop the spread “IF” you are infected. If you aren’t infected they are absolutely pointless.

Loafing Oaf · 11-08-2020 06:00PM

No: I don't care enough

joeguevara wrote: »

Well the HSE did produce a leaflet last week with one of the recommendations to reduce transmissions was wnaking regularly

Well I suppose if you run out of regular hand sanitiser...

dwayneshintzy · 11-08-2020 06:03PM

Yes: to protect myself and others

weldoninhio wrote: »

Masks help stop the spread “IF” you are infected. If you aren’t infected they are absolutely pointless.

I can link some studies about asymptomatic spread as well if you'd like?

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-3012

The early data that we have assembled on the prevalence of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection suggest that this is a significant factor in the rapid progression of the COVID-19 pandemic. Medical practice and public health measures should be modified to address this challenge.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa654/5848092

This review summarizes evidence that SARS-CoV-2 transmission is not only possible but likely highest during pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic phases. It also highlights the high prevalence of asymptomatic carriers in several universally tested sub-populationswith some studies showing that more than 50% of positive individuals were asymptomatic at the time of testing.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7291769/

The number of people with COVID-19 continues to increase. Asymptomatic infections are hidden and easily overlooked. However, their potential to spread the virus cannot be underestimated, as the viral load they carried and their ability to infect close contacts may be similar to those of symptomatic individuals. In addition, asymptomatic infections can occur in any age range and either gender, and there may be no abnormalities in laboratory tests or CT examination.

rubadub · 11-08-2020 06:33PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Masks help stop the spread “IF” you are infected. If you aren’t infected they are absolutely pointless.

I can't believe people literally think they are "absolutely pointless", I can see people thinking they are by no means foolproof, I do myself, and I see other negatives to them (false sense of security).

Seriously, if you were being mugged at knifepoint and you somehow knew the mugger had covid and was spitting as he was roaring at you, would you really not prefer to be wearing a mask?

I have heard people say they are useless since the micron rating is not low enough, FFS the regular masks are completely open at the sides! they still capture large droplets. I use to grow mushrooms and you would see hobbyists and commercial people wearing masks as they empirically knew they were of huge benefit. They also do NOT use some techniques that were commonly used in labs -since again they empirically found out what worked better and their livelihood depended on it.

robinph · 11-08-2020 06:54PM

No: I don't care enough

weldoninhio wrote: »

Masks help stop the spread “IF” you are infected. If you aren’t infected they are absolutely pointless.

When were you last tested?

When are you having your next test?

Who exactly have you had contact with in the time between those tests? Who else passed through any rooms that you spent a significant amount of time in after you had already left? Who passed through those areas before you entered?

Even if you can answer those questions with "today", "tomorrow" and the phone number of everyone would it not still be simpler to just wear a mask.

Seanergy · 11-08-2020 07:08PM

Yes: valved

Covid19 lead for ICGP Nuala O'Connor speaking today.

"A face shield will offer a good deal of protection as well, particularly from the person that you're interacting with, if they cough or sneeze or their breathing, most of the virus is going to be captured on the front of that face visor.

"If I as a doctor was wearing a visor, if I was coming in close contact with a patient then some of my breath could come out below that visor.

"So if I happened to be secreting some virus then it's just not as good. The visor is not as good as a face mask.

"The face mask is better. It's the best way to protect ourselves and to protect others.

xhomelezz · 11-08-2020 08:07PM

Yes: valved

weldoninhio wrote: »

Masks help stop the spread “IF” you are infected. If you aren’t infected they are absolutely pointless.

Looks like you figured out how to find out, if you are infected or not. Would be great if you share that trick with us. Even the cloth masks can give you a bit of protection, cuz they'll catch at least big droplets while you breath in, which mean you'll get lower infectious dose. Since it looks like they still weren't able to fix all the bs around testing, tracing etc., people not showing for their tests, not reporting symptoms to GP's etc., think masks makes more and more sense.

Xtrail14 · 11-08-2020 08:17PM

Very good compliance in shops today, will it be the same next year or next month even?

Sconsey · 11-08-2020 08:41PM

No: other

weldoninhio wrote: »

Masks help stop the spread “IF” you are infected. If you aren’t infected they are absolutely pointless.

You're wrong, if you aren't infected (not that you might even know as has been pointed out), there is clear evidence that masks do provide some protection to the wearer also.

What will your next excuse be I wonder?

CalamariFritti · 11-08-2020 08:54PM

Graham wrote: »

An article in today's independent is likely to send some of our regular thread contributors into some sort of nervous episode:

Wear masks and avoid kissing during sex to manage Covid-19 risk, sexual health charity recommends

:pac:

Got to be Waterford Whispers in disguise :pac:

Seanergy · 11-08-2020 09:52PM

Yes: valved

No mention of breathing on HSE.IE website but they have updated their modes of transmission to include talking loud, singing and shouting. Still pussy footing around and not just simply stating speaking. We all have had experience of people spitting slightly whilst talking, it does not have to be loud to happen.

6 months and waiting for the the HSE to confirm speaking as a mode of transmission.

Away With The Fairies · 12-08-2020 02:38AM

Yes: valved

weldoninhio wrote: »

Masks help stop the spread “IF” you are infected. If you aren’t infected they are absolutely pointless.

Are we back to this, are we?

Can you explain the if you are infected part with asymptomatic and presymtomatic people?

Away With The Fairies · 12-08-2020 02:47AM

Yes: valved

Seanergy wrote: »

No mention of breathing on HSE.IE website but they have updated their modes of transmission to include talking loud, singing and shouting. Still pussy footing around and not just simply stating speaking. We all have had experience of people spitting slightly whilst talking, it does not have to be loud to happen.

6 months and waiting for the the HSE to confirm speaking as a mode of transmission.

Fcuking hell, they knew from the beginning. Why are they taking their time with all this?

We've had half arsed measures right from the beginning. Thought we were doing somewhat ok for a while but look at the **** that's been going on.

People travelling from red hotspots
Meat factories that they done absolutely nothing about but they knew about them

Then we had poor leo today talking about austerity measures in October. Exactly what we need with a pandemic on our backs. Because they sit on their arses doing sweet fcuk all and give themselves payrises.

Oh they love their money, hey mehole martin, tell me how much my kidneys, lungs, my heart, my brain is worth?

Away With The Fairies · 12-08-2020 03:46AM

Yes: valved

Serious question, with airborne transmission, where is the best place to change a mask?. Are you not just whipping out a clean mask into dirty indoor air?

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