Is it just me or have SF vanished?

markodaly · 11-08-2020 01:39PM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

Why? If he can afford a good pair of shoes from an expensive shop, why shouldn't he buy them? Should people only support shops that sell cheap stuff like Pennys?

Ah, but then the same people here calling Leo a psychopath for buying a pair of shoes would then turn it around and the debate would be...

"WHY IS LEO SUPPORTING SWEAT-SHOPS IN ASIA! RABBLE RABBLE!!!!"

The obsession and voyeurism with Leo by the SF crowd is bordering on vindictive, strange and very very weird. It's just not a good look guys, history will look back at these threads in years to come and will see how time will judge you then, with the nasty comments, the unconscious homophobia and the outright banal stupid statement about him.

The guys likes to dress nice and look nice, like many a gay man I know, that is who he is, yet for that 'fatal' character flaw, he is a psychopath.... Emm OK!!

OK, I could say a bit of it has to do with homophobia, but then again it kinda really does. We saw the mask slip when Paddy Holohan made his homophobic and xenophobic remarks, remarks defended to the hilt by the same half dozen SF supporting amigos that seem to post on every thread to do with Leo or FG.

"Leo is cold and heartless for buying a pair of shoes" says one
"The comments by Paddy Holohan were not homophobic or xenophobic," says the same one.

11-08-2020 01:40PM

smurgen wrote: »

Did Vardkar show sympathy to Ruth Morrissey's husband? No he had his spokes person refute the details of the widow's public statement on the day of her death.

https://twitter.com/PhelanVicky/status/1286648467956224001?s=19

Big difference between that and murders carried out by members of SF and the IRA.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 01:41PM

markodaly wrote: »

Has any FG TD tweeted about another TD's fashion choice?
The equivalence would be someone like Eoghan Murphy tweeting about some blouse MLMD wore or bought. Yet, this never happened, but sure.. 'everyone' does it ... right?

The usual SF excuse when they are caught with the fingers in the cookie jar?

The lack of self awareness about your own party in that post is scary.

https://www.thejournal.ie/michelle-mulherin-fine-gael-td-dail-dress-code-mick-wallace-luke-ming-flanagan-richard-boyd-barrett-488486-Jun2012/

markodaly · 11-08-2020 01:42PM

piplip87 wrote: »

http://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2020/08/11/news/arlene-foster-and-michelle-o-neill-respect-hong-kong-national-security-laws-2031376/?param=ds441rif44T

I wonder what the aul shinner playbook will say about this.... Although not surprising as they sided with the Chinese on saying the election in Venezuela was free and fair.....

Classic! Match made in heaven there. Arline and Michelle, two blundering idiots, out of their depth.

As if she knows what to say or do in an event.
SF... standing up for the little guy.. since never.

markodaly · 11-08-2020 01:50PM

jh79 wrote: »

SF store has an 80 euro silver easter lily and an awful print of some Lynch fella for 115 euro!

Do they still sell those god awful IRA t-shirts?

Have a look at their online store and the cheap tacky $hite they sell, plastering their heroes names on.

Or for €25 you can get an 'Irish revolution' apron.

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You know what just occurred to me, SF guys are the same people who love that monarchy merchandise they sell over in the UK. You know the stuff, with the Queens face plastered over a plate or a spoon or a teaset or something.

I always said, the UKIP/BNP crowd are the same as the SF crowd we have here.
Ignorant, jingoistic, xenophobic and tacky.

Field east · 11-08-2020 01:50PM

Niallof9 wrote: »

Yep cause thats what he was doing there, he was off shopping rather than acting in his role as Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment.

ffs i'm so sick and tired of this ****e at this stage.

and yeah Francie John Brady was going on about it as well. Kittie Holland and on and on.

Its populist bull****.

I imagine the shop was chosen due to its central location and the government have a pr and taoiseachs/tainaste department who run it. People seriously think Leo is the one who is the man who directs all this stuff?

people haven't got a clue how government and these things are done.

i will agree there is an argument they should be a little smarter about it. and i'm sure somebody would mention going to a cheaper shop but you can be gauranteed the same ****e would be spun. but calling him out for anything is absolute bull****. who said he even bought any ****ing shoes?

Proof of Leo's lack of empathy. Yeah right. For all we know he could be an autistic, awkward, anti social person. I'm no real fan of his but the criticism he gets is stupid just as it was with Enda, who was universally respected and liked in Europe.

I Am middle of the road Irishman - re income, types of positions held and I get my shoes at Fitzpatrick’s , grafton street, Dublin . Why ? Because very few shops sell shoes that are for wide- not long- feet. And the quality is very good. I find the shoes value for money. I still wear the last two pairs bought there - one is 8 years old and the other is 11 yrs old.
One needs to find out why somebody is doing/buying/attending something or not doing/buying /attending something before making statements such as Cullinans re Leo v shoe buying venture.
Certain individuals / organizations make these statements to ridicule someone and in the hope that the media will pick the. Up and thereby get some traction/ publicity and that little bit more opposition/ ‘dicgust’’ of the targeted individual

As they say ‘ I know that it is not true but ask the question anyway and watch him denying it.

Is Cullinane /SF adapting a bit of the Trump strategy. Ie Put a load of statements out there , see what gets traction/ takes off in all directions, what exercises the media/ public etc ,etc and KEEP IT GOING until it has done as much damage as is possible/ until the media move onto something else

markodaly · 11-08-2020 01:52PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Loads of people commented on the PR stunt yesterday on Twitter...not just Cullinane.

Nice spinning there Seamus.

Did they all delete their tweet as well? :pac::pac:

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 02:02PM

markodaly wrote: »

Did they all delete their tweet as well? :pac::pac:

No...because the huffy mob was only interested in the fact that a 'shinner' said it.

You know those who huff about stuff the dastardly Shinners do and don't realise their own party members have done the exact same thing, not just on Twitter, but in the Dáil itself.

You just did it, not realising that Michelle Mulherin and Alan Shatter drew attention to the 'fashion choices' of others.
Leo had the same lack of self awareness when he ranted about Shinners posing for food parcel photo ops and got ridiculed when people posted photo's of Eoghan Murphy doing exactly that in a staged photo op.

jm08 · 11-08-2020 02:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

An image of a hard working politician taking time out of his busy schedule to promote and support local businesses. Neatly dressed. Shoes polished. Well groomed. A credit to his country.

It was part of his busy schedule. It was a photo op to launch the Restart Grant Plus Scheme, so as Government Minister, one would expect him to turn up appropriately dressed for the occasion.

markodaly · 11-08-2020 02:11PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No...because the huffy mob was only interested in the fact that a 'shinner' said it.

Oh no, NOT the HUFFY MOB!! Poor David, will he ever recover!

You just did it, not realising that Michelle Mulherin and Alan Shatter drew attention to the 'fashion choices' of others.

Drawing attention to the Dail dress code is a universe away for calling Leo a physopath for buying a pair of shoes. I would not be surprised if David himself thinks like Paddy Holohan in regards Leo.

But to you Francie, everything is an apple isn't. Buying a pair of shoes is an apple just like ordering the murder of a woman is also an apple.

Ush1 · 11-08-2020 02:14PM

jm08 wrote: »

Actually, I think it was just a stupid idea in the first place to have Leo buying shoes anywhere. Leo is meant to be government minister for the whole country and he shouldn't be doing stupid photoshoots like this that are divisive.

Divisive for mental cases??:pac: FFS this a non story and Cullinane is a petty whinger.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 02:14PM

markodaly wrote: »

Oh no, NOT the HUFFY MOB!! Poor David, will he ever recover!

Drawing attention to the Dail dress code is a universe away for calling Leo a physopath for buying a pair of shoes. I would not be surprised if David himself thinks like Paddy Holohan in regards Leo.

But to you Francie, everything is an apple isn't. Buying a pair of shoes is an apple just like ordering the murder of a woman is also an apple.

Dear lord...caught out and you sink to this invented nonsense:

'physopath for buying a pair of shoes.'

hatrickpatrick · 11-08-2020 02:14PM

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

You're right about their newfound fleeting voter base voting for protest.
However, were a GE to be called these days, it would be jobs and the economy that those voters will be primarily concerned about. No use complaining about a housing shortage if you have no job to pay for a mortgage.

Depends which voters you’re talking about. Young people are probably over represented in the service economy which has largely not shut down during COVID, and those same young people are so many orders of magnitude removes from even being able to qualify for a mortgage that it’s still rent control and social housing investment which is the defining issue for them. That’s certainly the case for many, many young people I know.

markodaly · 11-08-2020 02:14PM

Field east wrote: »

Is Cullinane /SF adapting a bit of the Trump strategy. Ie Put a load of statements out there , see what gets traction/ takes off in all directions, what exercises the media/ public etc ,etc and KEEP IT GOING until it has done as much damage as is possible/ until the media move onto something else

I think it's just another bit of Outrage culture seeping into Ireland. Leo gets up in the morning... OUTRAGE!! Leo gets dressed... OUTRAGE!! Leo has breakfast... OUTRAGE...

We are importing some of the worst influences of American and British politics into Ireland and who would you know is behind most of it.... Irish Republicans under the cloak of SF.

Irony explosion.

jm08 · 11-08-2020 02:15PM

Field east wrote: »

I Am middle of the road Irishman - re income, types of positions held and I get my shoes at Fitzpatrick’s , grafton street, Dublin . Why ? Because very few shops sell shoes that are for wide- not long- feet. And the quality is very good. I find the shoes value for money. I still wear the last two pairs bought there - one is 8 years old and the other is 11 yrs old.
One needs to find out why somebody is doing/buying/attending something or not doing/buying /attending something before making statements such as Cullinans re Leo v shoe buying venture.
Certain individuals / organizations make these statements to ridicule someone and in the hope that the media will pick the. Up and thereby get some traction/ publicity and that little bit more opposition/ ‘dicgust’’ of the targeted individual

As they say ‘ I know that it is not true but ask the question anyway and watch him denying it.

Is Cullinane /SF adapting a bit of the Trump strategy. Ie Put a load of statements out there , see what gets traction/ takes off in all directions, what exercises the media/ public etc ,etc and KEEP IT GOING until it has done as much damage as is possible/ until the media move onto something else

Fitzpatricks (which was next door to Thomas Patrick) has closed down, but their shoes are still available in Arnotts. Just so you know, Italian shoes tend to be narrow fitting, so if you have broad feet you are better off sticking with the Germany/English brands.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/retail-and-services/who-will-step-into-fitzpatricks-shoes-on-grafton-street-1.3800766

markodaly · 11-08-2020 02:16PM

Do we actually know if he bought any at the end?

€150 for a good pair of shoes is nothing, considering a good pair will last you a decade, if not more.

hatrickpatrick · 11-08-2020 02:18PM

Poor_old_gill wrote: »

I love how you guys try to constantly push the ‘lack of empathy’ line- it’s so coordinated you’d almost think it was a party policy.

“Boutique Hotels”. “People who get up early in the morning”. The lack of empathy argument didn’t come out of thin air, FG seem to have a complete and total indifference to young people and how their quality of life has been totally decimated by a “recovery” which has seen their bills soar without a comparative increase in income. And the answer to that is to tell people “soon you’re going to be living in a shoebox without it’s own kitchen once the rent on your current flat increases once too often and you’re forced to move - and you’ll learn to love it because we’ll tell you to”.

Ush1 · 11-08-2020 02:18PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think Cullinane is making very valid points about the new lockdown and meat plants in his role as opposition spokesman.
Which is maybe why he deleted this tweet...because the huffy indignant..'don't dare criticise Leo' brigade were in full flow and distracting from the more important issues. Maybe that is why they are out in force today...what do you think?

He deleted his tweet because others are distracting from important issues? Where as him giving out about shoe buying...

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 02:21PM

markodaly wrote: »

I think it's just another bit of Outrage culture seeping into Ireland. Leo gets up in the morning... OUTRAGE!! Leo gets dressed... OUTRAGE!! Leo has breakfast... OUTRAGE...

We are importing some of the worst influences of American and British politics into Ireland and who would you know is behind most of it.... Irish Republicans under the cloak of SF.

Irony explosion.

Ha ha ha...did you read the outrage attached to Cullinane's tweets...you'd almost think he had accused Leo of being a 'physopath for buying a pair of shoes.'

jimmycrackcorm · 11-08-2020 02:22PM

smurgen wrote: »

Online all the time? You're up posting at 4 am lol.

I've several FaceBook friends who constantly post pro-SF shares. But when do you ever see anyone post pro-FF / FG / Labour etc apart from party hacks.

By coincidence most of them are pissed off at not getting free houses. One is a die-hard republican so he's the real deal.

hatrickpatrick · 11-08-2020 02:22PM

Yeah_Right wrote: »

At that point you lost me and I stopped reading.

Fair enough, but I guarantee you I wasn’t the only one. And refusing to acknowledge how young Irish voters have been driven to the far left by a decade of stagflation which has left so many utterly despair of the backwards steps they’re being forced to take in their adult lives is exactly why the neoliberals have declined in successive elections this decade.

Ush1 · 11-08-2020 02:22PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Ha ha ha...did you read the outrage attached to Cullinane's tweets...you'd almost think he had accused Leo of being a 'physopath for buying a pair of shoes.'

Didn't you say something about it showing he lacked empathy or some such amateur psycho-analysis?

Yeah_Right · 11-08-2020 02:23PM

jm08 wrote: »

The timing was poor from the point of view of the lockdown in the country (Kildare, Laois and Offaly), while city slicker Government Minister goes shopping on one of Ireland most expensive streets in the capital to buy a pair of shoes.

A touch of the Marie Antoinette's about it.

So 3 counties go into lockdown and Leo, who lives in a different county, shouldn't go out to buy a pair of shoes?!? WTF!!

Grafton St is only one of the most expensive in Ireland if you are talking about rent. The cost of goods being sold there isn't expensive apart from 3 or 4 shops. As for your comment about it showing Leo to be out of touch with "the man in the street", have you ever been to Grafton St? Pre-pandemic it was always packed. It felt like half of Ireland was walking down it every day. I hated shopping there.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 02:27PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Didn't you say something about it showing he lacked empathy or some such amateur psycho-analysis?

Erm...there is a difference between 'physco-analysis and calling someone a 'physcopath'

Jaysus...am I really having to explain this?

markodaly · 11-08-2020 02:27PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Didn't you say something about it showing he lacked empathy or some such amateur psycho-analysis?

Francie should get a job with the Behavioural Analysis Unit attached to the FBI, he has done a great job in characterising Leo with him just going out and buying a pair of shoes.

Maybe he can do one on Gerry and find out where all the bodies are buried?

Niallof9 · 11-08-2020 02:28PM

markodaly wrote: »

I think it's just another bit of Outrage culture seeping into Ireland. Leo gets up in the morning... OUTRAGE!! Leo gets dressed... OUTRAGE!! Leo has breakfast... OUTRAGE...

We are importing some of the worst influences of American and British politics into Ireland and who would you know is behind most of it.... Irish Republicans under the cloak of SF.

Irony explosion.

brilliantly put markodaly

In any other country a SF party with their structure and ideals and blood on their hands would be probably a right wing party. i mean a real left wing party would admit to all the structures etc. Cloak and daggers is normally the rights way. You can't be outraged when you are making the hard decisions.

I think for all our sanity we need SF to get into government. And then wait for the egg. It will be beautiful to see them ripped asunder as they can't deliver on anything. its the only way to get rid of the outrage mob.

Niallof9 · 11-08-2020 02:31PM

markodaly wrote: »

Francie should get a job with the Behavioural Analysis Unit attached to the FBI, he has done a great job in characterising Leo with him just going out and buying a pair of shoes.

Maybe he can do one on Gerry and find out where all the bodies are buried?

:D:D

ha beautiful, you are killing him. make it stop

Ush1 · 11-08-2020 02:31PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Erm...there is a difference between 'physco-analysis and calling someone a 'physcopath'

Jaysus...am I really having to explain this?

"physcos"(sic) distinctly lack empathy, so the only one accusing Leo of being anything like a "physcopath"(sic) is your good self.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 02:33PM

markodaly wrote: »

Francie should get a job with the Behavioural Analysis Unit attached to the FBI, he has done a great job in characterising Leo with him just going out and buying a pair of shoes.

Maybe he can do one on Gerry and find out where all the bodies are buried?

Again the Huff and the complete lack of awareness that it isn't just me who has observed this:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Leo+Varadkar%27s+lack+of+empathy&oq=Leo+Varadkar%27s+lack+of+empathy&aqs=chrome..69i57.179330j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

SafeSurfer · 11-08-2020 02:34PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I don't think the tweet was about money, it was about Leo's coldness, lack of empathy and insensitivity, on the morning 3 counties were beginning a renewed lockdown. It's not the first time he has been called out for this you will all agree.

And I think a few posters need to research how many parties have had to deal with members who have misbehaved on twitter and while doing that research how many people have deleted tweets on 'further reflection' or because of the huffy palaver they cause.

I could probably accept criticism of a politician for lack of empathy and insensitivity but not from someone who defended Barry Mc Elduff during the Kingsmill bread gate debacle. If you consider buying shoes insensitive that’s fine but apply the same standards to those in Sinn Fein also.

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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