Is it just me or have SF vanished?

jm08 · 10-08-2020 10:46PM

blackwhite wrote: »

Herself got me a pair of the Tommy Bowe shoes for Xmas this year. V nice shoes, and comfortable - but already falling apart 7 and a half months later.

Surprised that Varadkar didn’t choose somewhere local to his own constituency - but then no doubt the usual gang would be criticising him for parish pump politics if he did that

It would have been a better look if he didn't use one of the most expensive shoe shops on Grafton Street.

blackwhite · 10-08-2020 10:57PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You'll be telling us next that nobody ever deleted a tweet

He couldn’t even be bothered defending the stupidity of it himself - and yet here you are still toiling away :pac:

It’s like a parody at this stage. Tell us again how you never voted SF before 2020 🤣🤣🤣

blackwhite · 10-08-2020 11:02PM

jm08 wrote: »

It would have been a better look if he didn't use one of the most expensive shoe shops on Grafton Street.

Live in Dublin myself - but I wouldn’t know how expensive, or otherwise, it is. The only place I’d peg as an “expensive” shoe shop is Loake on Wicklow St (got the wedding shoes there, still in good nick as well).

Normally get my own posted up from EJ in Sligo - gotta support the home town

FrancieBrady · 10-08-2020 11:02PM

blackwhite wrote: »

He couldn’t even be bothered defending the stupidity of it himself - and yet here you are still toiling away :pac:

It’s like a parody at this stage. Tell us again how you never voted SF before 2020 &#55358;&#56611;&#55358;&#56611;&#55358;&#56611;

Where did I defend it?

It was an innocuous enough tweet made special by the 'how dare you criticise Leo' crew piling on board to thump thier chests in high dudgeon.

He is not the first to delete a tweet that causes that kind of hissy fit. Nor is he the first to have second thoughts about what he tweeted.

Hulk Hands · 10-08-2020 11:04PM

Tweets been deleted

Cullinane reminds me of a line from Father Ted to Dougal.

"Think about what you're saying....and then don't say it. And then just run away somewhere"

jm08 · 10-08-2020 11:41PM

blackwhite wrote: »

Live in Dublin myself - but I wouldn’t know how expensive, or otherwise, it is. The only place I’d peg as an “expensive” shoe shop is Loake on Wicklow St (got the wedding shoes there, still in good nick as well).

Normally get my own posted up from EJ in Sligo - gotta support the home town

Loake shoes are more suitable for an Irish climate (UK company) than the Italian shoes which are made for a much dryer climate.

blackwhite · 10-08-2020 11:44PM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

A right charmer this lad:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sinn-f%C3%A9in-apologises-as-member-resigns-over-social-media-abuse-1.4326902

Small beans. They’ve a TD who “resigned” from his previous party for the same shenanigans. Fairly obvious for a long time that it’s standard procedure for SF at this stage. SFOS hasn’t gone away you know

JohnnyFlash · 10-08-2020 11:45PM

There was another doozy as well over the weekend from Patricia Ryan (the newly elected Sinn Féin TD for Kildare South - the lady who went on her holidays during the general election) who came out and said she had written to the housing minister to ask him to extend rent freezes and the ban on evictions during the lockdown in Kildare. Turns out her party had voted for it earlier in the the week.

Deleted as well now of course.

You'd think at least a few of the 200 employees would be tasked in ensuring quality control on the posts being fired out by their TDs.

Rodney Bathgate · 10-08-2020 11:49PM

The 200 staff would be too busy posting on here, Twitter and Reddit etc to bother with that sort of thing.

FrancieBrady · 10-08-2020 11:50PM

blackwhite wrote: »

Small beans. They’ve a TD who “resigned” from his previous party for the same shenanigans. Fairly obvious for a long time that it’s standard procedure for SF at this stage. SFOS hasn’t gone away you know

No more than deleting tweets or thinking better of them is there a party in the country that hasn't had issues with member (Senior members in some cases) abusing people on Twitter.

The guys a tool obviously...and good to see SF unequivocally condemn it and disown it.

Rodney Bathgate · 10-08-2020 11:57PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No more than deleting tweets or thinking better of them is there a party in the country that hasn't had issues with member (Senior members in some cases) abusing people on Twitter.

The guys a tool obviously...and good to see SF unequivocally condemn it and disown it.

Yes, Reada Cronin come to mind. Last time I checked her Twitter is still private. It takes a while to sanitize 30,000 plus Tweets / retweets.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 12:03AM

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Yes, Reada Cronin come to mind. Last time I checked her Twitter is still private. It takes a while to sanitize 30,000 plus Tweets / retweets.

She the only one 'springs to mind'?

I seem to remember some high profile members from other parties getting in hot water on the tweet machine.

Couldn't be bothered going looking for links. But almost every party have had trouble.
Somebody should propose a charter to moderate behaviour on social media.

JohnnyFlash · 11-08-2020 12:05AM

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Yes, Reada Cronin come to mind. Last time I checked her Twitter is still private. It takes a while to sanitize 30,000 plus Tweets / retweets.

There's nothing private on the internet, Rodney. Anyone with a tick has had multiple copies of their tweets archived.

I don't want to sound like a broken record, but the Sinn Féin party owning upwards of 50 properties is where the more 'nosey' of journalists are focusing their attention these days. :eek:

Pay for your subscriptions to the Irish Times and The Currency if you want proper investigative journalism.

:cool:

Rodney Bathgate · 11-08-2020 12:09AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

She the only one 'springs to mind'?

I seem to remember some high profile members from other parties getting in hot water on the tweet machine.

Couldn't be bothered going looking for links. But almost every party have had trouble.
Somebody should propose a charter to moderate behaviour on social media.

Not many had thousands of problematic tweets/retweets. She was certainly the one with the most to sanitize, so yes she was the first to ‘spring to mind’.

If someone mentioned misuse of ink cartridges for example then Aengus O Snodaigh would obviously spring to mind with his EUR 50,000 printer fetish.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 12:22AM

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Not many had thousands of problematic tweets/retweets. She was certainly the one with the most to sanitize, so yes she was the first to ‘spring to mind’.

If someone mentioned misuse of ink cartridges for example then Aengus O Snodaigh would obviously spring to mind with his EUR 50,000 printer fetish.

There must be something big about to break in FG/FF world, they're talking about print cartridges again.

Rodney Bathgate · 11-08-2020 12:24AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There must be something big about to break in FG/FF world, they're talking about print cartridges again.

No, just a simple example to illustrate a point.

JohnnyFlash · 11-08-2020 12:47AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There must be something big about to break in FG/FF world, they're talking about print cartridges again.

50 properties, and upwards of 200 employees, Francie.

I know you're a first time SF voter, but maybe ask your local rep at the next clinic who the hell is paying for all this, and where the money came from......

Rodney Bathgate · 11-08-2020 12:55AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

50 properties, and upwards of 200 employees, Francie.

I know you're a first time SF voter, but maybe ask your local rep at the next clinic who the hell is paying for all this, and where the money came from......

I wouldn’t have had Francie down as a SF voter.

I’d have said he was one of the ‘I didn’t vote for SF and I don’t support SF, but ....’ types.

FrancieBrady · 11-08-2020 01:15AM

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

I wouldn’t have had Francie down as a SF voter.

I’d have said he was one of the ‘I didn’t vote for SF and I don’t support SF, but ....’ types.

I freely said that I voted for them in the last election. The first time in a GE having voted for them at local and in a presidential election before.

This drives the FG and FF people on here mad for some reason. It used to be that I would vote for one of them...maybe it's sour grapes?

hatrickpatrick · 11-08-2020 01:27AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I freely said that I voted for them in the last election. The first time in a GE having voted for them at local and in a presidential election before.

This drives the FG and FF people on here mad for some reason. It used to be that I would vote for one of them...maybe it's sour grapes?

For the record I'm the same, anyone who's seen my posting history on Boards or interacted with me over the years knows that I always ruled out voting SF on the basis of the party whip and the fact that their record in Northern Ireland didn't gel with the manifestoes they were pushing here. I voted for them #2 in this election after PBP for the simple reason that in the four years since the previous election, many, many of my friends have seen their lives travelling backwards as hyperinflation of rents forced people to forgo the independence they'd attained in their twenties and move back with their parents as their thirties approached. SF are the only large party which claims to want to fix this, ergo most people my age - regardless of socioeconomic background - voted for them.

This really seems to infuriate many people here, the issue of the first-time SF voter who voted based on political ideology and not the issue of a United Ireland. In fact, as I've said before, the very concept of voting based on ideology seems to alarm many posters here, which I find bizarre. I guarantee you that these newfound SF voters would desert the party in as quick a heartbeat as they joined if SF suddenly dropped rent control and massive social housing investment as policy planks.

There is absolutely no party loyalty or interest in party history among most newfound SF voters, there is a genuine anger at an establishment whose answer to a housing crisis which is destroying peoples' lives was to force councils to sell public land to private developers, and allow those developers to waste that land building glorified hostels instead of proper apartment blocks.

The idea of the first time SF voter who previously opposed the party is really touching a raw nerve among some around here. Perhaps those who support neoliberal economic policies are finally realising that when you f*ck an entire generation over in order to benefit those higher up the generational ladder, that generation will turn around and tell you to f*ck yourselves instead?

JohnnyFlash · 11-08-2020 01:35AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

For the record I'm the same, anyone who's seen my posting history on Boards or interacted with me over the years knows that I always ruled out voting SF on the basis of the party whip and the fact that their record in Northern Ireland didn't gel with the manifestoes they were pushing here. I voted for them #2 in this election after PBP for the simple reason that in the four years since the previous election, many, many of my friends have seen their lives travelling backwards as hyperinflation of rents forced people to forgo the independence they'd attained in their twenties and move back with their parents as their thirties approached. SF are the only large party which claims to want to fix this, ergo most people my age - regardless of socioeconomic background - voted for them.

This really seems to infuriate many people here, the issue of the first-time SF voter who voted based on political ideology and not the issue of a United Ireland. In fact, as I've said before, the very concept of voting based on ideology seems to alarm many posters here, which I find bizarre. I guarantee you that these newfound SF voters would desert the party in as quick a heartbeat as they joined if SF suddenly dropped rent control and massive social housing investment as policy planks.

There is absolutely no party loyalty or interest in party history among most newfound SF voters, there is a genuine anger at an establishment whose answer to a housing crisis which is destroying peoples' lives was to force councils to sell public land to private developers, and allow those developers to waste that land building glorified hostels instead of proper apartment blocks.

The idea of the first time SF voter who previously opposed the party is really touching a raw nerve among some around here. Perhaps those who support neoliberal economic policies are finally realising that when you f*ck an entire generation over in order to benefit those higher up the generational ladder, that generation will turn around and tell you to f*ck yourselves instead?

So you're a Labour voter?

hatrickpatrick · 11-08-2020 02:02AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

So you're a Labour voter?

How did you get that from my post? I gave Labour a high preference in 2011 but I'll never make that mistake again. The amount of bullsh!t they tolerated without putting their foot down between 2011 and 2016 was incredible - and I'm not talking about political policy but political behaviour. For example, I will never respect a party who was the junior coalition partner during Alan Shatter's disastrous handling of a bajillion different Garda scandals between 2013 and 2014 without demanding his resignation. Where a junior partner is supposed to be a check and balance against the senior partner's worst impulses, Labour literally sat down and allowed FG to run absolute roughshod over their promise of an end to unaccountability, corruption and wrongdoing in policy. Everything from Noonan and Kenny breaking their own salary cap rules for their advisors to James Reilly's shenanigans as Health Minister should have been incidents which were quickly put a stop to by Labour, yet they stood over all of this and more, allowing FG to get away with it time and time again.

So on that basis, no. I won't be voting Labour again unless they demonstrate a commitment to standing up for what they believe in even if it means not remaining in power.

jimmycrackcorm · 11-08-2020 02:38AM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Violet-Ann Wynnes social media misadventures continued this week with a spot of plagiarism

Violet Annes Twitter bio is funny:

Not the typical politician, I have been there and I want to make sure other's don't have to go through it!!

Definitely not the typical politician when it comes to charity funded housing.
But Violet, I'd like to know where you have been "there"? I presume it's Clare and we should all avoid it now you're their TD.

jimmycrackcorm · 11-08-2020 02:41AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

This really seems to infuriate many people here, the issue of the first-time SF voter who voted based on political ideology and not the issue of a United Ireland. In fact, as I've said before, the very concept of voting based on ideology seems to alarm many posters here, which I find bizarre. I guarantee you that these newfound SF voters would desert the party in as quick a heartbeat as they joined if SF suddenly dropped rent control and massive social housing investment as policy planks.

There is absolutely no party loyalty or interest in party history among most newfound SF voters, there is a genuine anger at an establishment whose answer to a housing crisis which is destroying peoples' lives was to force councils to sell public land to private developers, and allow those developers to waste that land building glorified hostels instead of proper apartment blocks.

You're right about their newfound fleeting voter base voting for protest.
However, were a GE to be called these days, it would be jobs and the economy that those voters will be primarily concerned about. No use complaining about a housing shortage if you have no job to pay for a mortgage.

markodaly · 11-08-2020 04:30AM

“Sinn Féin at both local and national level is actively opposed to cyber bullying or any form of discriminatory behaviour. As you may be aware the individual in question has now offered their resignation to the party which I can confirm has been unanimously accepted by our elected county board.”

Yet, we see it online all the time, the keyboard warriors on social media acting disgracefully.
They are only sorry when they are caught it seems.

smurgen · 11-08-2020 07:47AM

markodaly wrote: »

Yet, we see it online all the time, the keyboard warriors on social media acting disgracefully.
They are only sorry when they are caught it seems.

Online all the time? You're up posting at 4 am lol.

Bishop of hope · 11-08-2020 08:41AM

mariaalice wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sinn-f%C3%A9in-apologises-as-member-resigns-over-social-media-abuse-1.4326902?fbclid=IwAR3FEDScsbs5PxYOv3ckE0ps9yU_zlnAnL6FXAvreV3lSN9vcqTX-1r4pss#.XzG_Ov_GQmQ.facebook

You're late to the party with that one Maria!

11-08-2020 08:43AM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

You're late to the party with that one Maria!

Its not the one I was trying to put up, can't seem to link the one I want

11-08-2020 08:53AM

SF does seem to be trying to put a bit of a stop to the social media behavior of some of their supporters, but then again why do they attract supporters like that in the first place its dose not see to be as much as an issue for other political parties.

Superfoods · 11-08-2020 08:58AM

Personally I didn't vote Sinn Fein last time. Was maybe considering swapping to next time but the carry on since the election makes me question the whole party. If we have to listen to another "speech" from someone in Sinn Fein about "change" I think they should get an automatic 100 euro fine.

Violet Anne and another few seem to be missing a few brain cells. Maybe they lost them in meetings listening to Mary Lou talking about "change".

So far I have yet to see anything from Sinn Fein to assist with the current Covid crisis. Not a whisper, but I hear lots about "change". Can't change much when the country is on its knee's.

FF/FG don't seem to be massively better but if all Sinn Fein can do is tweet about someone buying a pair of shoes then it does mean they are not fit for government.

Maybe I am incorrect on all of the above? open to examples but that's my view.

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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