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  • #7802
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭circadian


    Yes: other
    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Was in a shop in a Dublin shopping centre
    on Sunday. I had no mask on even though I wear one everyday during work.

    Young fellow came over to me to tell me since the shop is small I need to have a mask on. I noticed the near by staff were all standing ,watching and waiting for my reaction.

    No bother says I, you are dead right. My bad.

    End

    And everyone stood up and applauded.


  • #7803
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Severe distress? People with severe asthma can wear them and want you to do likewise.
    Inconvenience and a bit of difficulty isn't severe distress.
    Which box do you really fall into?

    People who abuse the "severe distress" clause are as bad as people who park in disabled spaces without legitimate reason and deserve as much contempt.

    I'm loving the contempt.

    No I'd never park in a disabled space. It would directly impact a disabled person. Nipping into a shop for two seconds isn't going to spread the virus.


  • #7804
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    No: other
    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    Nipping into a shop for two seconds isn't going to spread the virus.

    Have you told the virus that?


  • #7805
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Have you told the virus that?

    How many people have died from catching the virus in centra?


  • #7806
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,067 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    How many people have died from catching the virus in centra?

    How many people have died from 'community transmission'?
    Centra is part of the community.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #7807
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    How many people have died from 'community transmission'?
    Centra is part of the community.

    Ok what are the figures so?


  • #7808
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    2 meters please!

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  • #7809
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,067 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    Ok what are the figures so?

    Community transmission accounts for 31.4% of 'originating' cases.
    Then can then go on to create further clusters.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #7810
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭circadian


    Yes: other
    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    Ok what are the figures so?

    Jesus wept.


  • #7811
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Community transmission accounts for 31.4% of 'originating' cases.
    Then can then go on to create further clusters.

    And of those 31.4% of community transmitted cases how many came from shops where you socially distance and sanitize your hands?

    Point being it's bollocks. You don't get this by walking around a shop.


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  • #7812
    Diabhalta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭Diabhalta


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    hilarious :D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AASp25qWIUk


  • #7813
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭circadian


    Yes: other
    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    And of those 31.4% of community transmitted cases how many came from shops where you socially distance and sanitize your hands?

    Point being it's bollocks. You don't get this by walking around a shop.

    I take it you've done extensive research to prove this point, debunking all previous research pointing to the absolute opposite.


  • #7814
    MarkY91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    And of those 31.4% of community transmitted cases how many came from shops where you socially distance and sanitize your hands?

    Point being it's bollocks. You don't get this by walking around a shop.

    You need to stop posting in this thread before you give someone else bad habits. You're an absolute disgrace.

    Wear your ****ing mask!!


  • #7815
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    circadian wrote: »
    I take it you've done extensive research to prove this point, debunking all previous research pointing to the absolute opposite.

    I get my advice from the same people you do, doctors and virologists. The difference between my doctors and yours is that mine aren't backed and paid by the state.


  • #7816
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    MarkY91 wrote: »
    You need to stop posting in this thread before you give someone else bad habits. You're an absolute disgrace.

    Wear your ****ing mask!!

    Nah. I don't believe in this particular conspiracy theory.


  • #7817
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,067 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    And of those 31.4% of community transmitted cases how many came from shops where you socially distance and sanitize your hands? Point being it's bollocks. You don't get this by walking around a shop.

    Point being you're absolutely no basis for making that statement.

    You cannot guarantee you will always be 2 metres from other people.
    You cannot guarantee you won't inhale droplets produced by another person speaking, coughing, sneezing in an indoor space - if the ventilation isn't great, the droplets can hang in the air. You may have been 2 metres from the person at the time but you're not 2 metres from their droplets as they walk around the shop ahead of you.

    It's a respiratory virus. Perfect hand sanitisation technique won't help if you have inhaled infected droplets.
    And you can't sanitise your respiratory system after exposure like you can with hands\surfaces.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #7818
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭circadian


    Yes: other
    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    I get my advice from the same people you do, doctors and virologists. The difference between my doctors and yours is that mine aren't backed and paid by the state.

    So, quacks.


  • #7819
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Point being you're absolutely no basis for making that statement.

    You cannot guarantee you will always be 2 metres from other people.
    You cannot guarantee you won't inhale droplets produced by another person speaking, coughing, sneezing in an indoor space - if the ventilation isn't great, the droplets can hang in the air. You may have been 2 metres from the person at the time but you're not 2 metres from their droplets as they walk around the shop ahead of you.

    It's a respiratory virus. Perfect hand sanitisation technique won't help if you have inhaled infected droplets.
    And you can't sanitise your respiratory system after exposure like you can with hands\surfaces.

    But they're all wearing masks? What's the matter, do their masks not work?


  • #7820
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    circadian wrote: »
    So, quacks.

    Quacks because they're not on the government payroll?

    Interesting.


  • #7821
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,067 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    I get my advice from the same people you do, doctors and virologists. The difference between my doctors and yours is that mine aren't backed and paid by the state.

    You'll have to share this 'advice' to be taken seriously.
    Lots of doctors and virologists not paid for by the state have also been calling for masks.
    Besides, even if they are paid by the state, it is the evidence they have presented which is important.

    If there was a conspiracy theory when it came to this virus, it was the attempts by the Chinese authorities to downplay human to human respiratory transmission of this virus and present it as primarily spread by surfaces\contact.
    Also, the authorities in the West due to a lack of PPE downplayed the benefits of masks.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #7822
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭circadian


    Yes: other
    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    Quacks because they're not on the government payroll?

    Interesting.

    What doctors are we talking about here because it's coming across an awful lot like you're referring to someone like Dolores Cahill.


  • #7823
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,067 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    But they're all wearing masks? What's the matter, do their masks not work?

    Great. You accept masks work. So wear one.

    Your posts are contradictory and incoherent and not sure how genuine anything you've posted on this thread is.
    You seem to be just trying to get a rise out of people.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #7824
    timetogo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    No: I don't care enough
    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    But they're all wearing masks? What's the matter, do their masks not work?

    They reduce the risk, you absolute plank. You say you get your info from doctors and then you come out with total rubbish like this.


  • #7825
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    timetogo1 wrote: »
    They reduce the risk, you absolute plank. You say you get your info from doctors and then you come out with total rubbish like this.



    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/travel/news/red-alert-on-covid-19-as-46-000-fly-into-ireland-from-high-risk-countries/ar-BB17rKJO?ocid=ob-fb-enie-60


    Why should I bother listening to any government advice while this is going on? I mean, we’re all heading for another lockdown either way. It’s a complete and utter waste of time.


  • #7826
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    Why should I bother listening to any government advice while this is going on?

    Upto a €2,500 fine and/or 6 months inside?

    :D


  • #7827
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Graham wrote: »
    Upto a €2,500 fine and/or 6 months inside?

    :D

    And how’s that going to work exactly?


  • #7828
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    And how’s that going to work exactly?

    You wear a mask and you don't get either.

    Simples.


  • #7829
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    No: I don't care enough
    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/travel/news/red-alert-on-covid-19-as-46-000-fly-into-ireland-from-high-risk-countries/ar-BB17rKJO?ocid=ob-fb-enie-60


    Why should I bother listening to any government advice while this is going on? I mean, we’re all heading for another lockdown either way. It’s a complete and utter waste of time.

    Maybe you wearing a mask and requiring everyone else, including those new visitors to the country, to also wear masks will help slow down the transmission from them then? Hows that for an idea?

    What is your alternative way to slow the spread down if these people are clearly entering the country anyway, people are going back to work, people are going back to shops and people are interacting with each other more than they were for several months. Is your only alternative to lock everyone into their houses, or can you maybe think of a way that people can leave their houses and at the same time limit how many people they might infect from breathing on them by...I don't know... putting something over their mouth and nose to prevent the flow of their breath over others?


  • #7830
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,784 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Graham wrote: »
    You wear a mask and you don't get either.

    Simples.

    Unenforceable.

    How many people have been fined/gone to jail.


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  • #7831
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,023 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Also, the authorities in the West due to a lack of PPE downplayed the benefits of masks.

    As with the posts by a few on the megathread who praised the authorities for withholding information about infections in supermarkets, we are supposed to accept that the authorities can tell lies whenever they want if they think they have good reasons for doing so, and simultaneously trust them and believe what they say and that they wouldn't lie. Does anyone see the contradiction here?


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