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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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    #9932
    niallo27
    Registered Users Posts: 16,010 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Any truth in American hospitals getting a lot more money if they list a death as covid of if they put a patient on a ventilator.


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    #9933
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,899 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Weren't the number of deaths already proved to be hugely exaggerated in this country.

    We’re they ?

    The updated and accurate stats...

    26768 - confirmed

    24000 - recovered

    1772. - DEAD

    Those are the stats as of now.


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    #9934
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Any truth in American hospitals getting a lot more money if they list a death as covid of if they put a patient on a ventilator.

    Hold on until I ring one and see.


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    #9935
    expectationlost
    Registered Users Posts: 11,772 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Any truth in American hospitals getting a lot more money if they list a death as covid of if they put a patient on a ventilator.
    you think they have ventilators to spare?


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    #9936
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    57 new cases no new deaths, absolute disgraceful the overkill reaction to this is .... imagine how history will look back on all this, the thousands of suicdes, the tens of thousands that will be homeless, the 100,000+ deaths caused by mental health , cancer, anything else that couldn't be treated due to lockups....

    Shame
    Some of you lads/lassies are completely bonkers


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    #9937
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,638 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Strumms wrote: »
    We’re they ?

    The updated and accurate stats...

    26768 - confirmed

    24000 - recovered

    1772. - DEAD

    Those are the stats as of now.
    Deaths are believed to be overestimated by circa 500 in Ireland.


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    #9938
    Marty Bird
    Registered Users Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    youandme13 wrote: »
    My partner was a healthy 30yo Male prior to April was very sick for a few weeks which we now believe was covid. He is still suffering badly and has problems with both his lungs and heart, he is having to see private consultants in both these fields to try find out what long term damage there may be. He still cant go back to full fitness and has breathing problems and heart palpitations, none of which he suffered with before.
    He spent the first few weeks being fobbed off by the GP given inhalers and steroids etc been told it was asthma, when the inhalers made him ten times worse.

    So you believe it was COVID but he never tested positive for COVID ?

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



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    #9939
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Deaths are believed to be overestimated by circa 500 in Ireland.

    That was based on excess deaths. Not covid deaths. Doesn't mean the current figure for covid deaths is wrong.


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    #9940
    Patd6
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭Patd6


    The whole coronavirus thing in Ireland is a farce. They (nphet) are simply adding numbers onto the death total and the cases totals as a matter of fiction. We have done great to control the virus in recent months and now just need to get on with life again. I for one will be opening my pub next week and no one will stop me


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    #9941
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,899 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Deaths are believed to be overestimated by circa 500 in Ireland.

    By who ? Individuals with qualifications to question those deaths or by those in the business sectors, who appetite for money outweighs the appetite for people to be well and living.


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    #9942
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    expectationlost wrote: »
    is this satire?


    I think that the days of people pretending to be stupid for reactions on the internet might be gone. It's not like the olden days when it was mostly people with a third level education using it. That thick cousin in your family who used to smell of sh!t? He's on the internet now. That clueless aunt who watches Coronation St religiously? Yep, on the internet too.That loud c*nt of an uncle who gives out about the foreigners during every gathering? You can be damned sure that he's here.


    This is why I tend to take people's stupidity on the internet at face value. For every troll pretending to be stupid, there's another 10 out there who are genuinely dim and they're just as fond of the internet as anyone else.


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    #9943
    [Deleted User]
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    Of 1772, Almost 50% of them had chronic hear disease! Guess how many die in Ireland of chronic heart disease 5000. there's tons of stats one can play with.
    Bottom line How many are now in hospital and how many are in ICU today? that's what needs to be shown. showing median and mean ages for young offenders is just finger pointing. we we always told to flatten the curve and it's flat according to martin himself in his speech. So now we;re closing counties for single figure digits n hospitals? last I looked it went from 6 up to 14 and then back to 9.

    What's it at present?


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    #9944
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    You have to remember in life there is usually a happy middle ground between the people calling the reaction OTT and the people supporting it.

    Give it a few weeks, if there is no bump in Hospitalisations as result of these numbers then yes there will be more confidence in continuing opening up.

    The case numbers we recorded earlier in this epidemic were the tip of the iceberg.

    The biggest takeaway I will have from this epidemic is how quickly people turn on minorities in order to pass the blame..

    The shame and ridicule placed on people who dared visit family in the EU.....The 'Staycation' nonsense.

    That hurt a lot of people.


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    #9945
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,638 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    seanb85 wrote: »
    That was based on excess deaths. Not covid deaths. Doesn't mean the current figure for covid deaths is wrong.
    COVID deaths in Ireland = people who died with covid, not necessarily just of COVID.

    Excess deaths in Ireland from March to June were "substantially" less than the officially reported Covid-19 figures, analysis from the Health Information and Quality Authority has found.
    HIQA says this could be due to the inclusion within official figures of people who were infected with coronavirus but whose cause of death may have been predominantly due to other factors.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/health/2020/0703/1151127-virus-report/


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    #9946
    niallo27
    Registered Users Posts: 16,010 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    The Unbearables wrote: »
    Hold on until I ring one and see.

    Any answer.


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    #9947
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    Strumms wrote: »
    By who ? Individuals with qualifications to question those deaths or by those in the business sectors, who appetite for money outweighs the appetite for people to be well and living.

    Varadkar himself said it

    https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1278995351169613824


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    #9948
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,716 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Patd6 wrote: »
    The whole coronavirus thing in Ireland is a farce. They (nphet) are simply adding numbers onto the death total and the cases totals as a matter of fiction. We have done great to control the virus in recent months and now just need to get on with life again. I for one will be opening my pub next week and no one will stop me
    Suddenly.yiu have a pub? What happened the job and the interview?


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    #9949
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Patd6 wrote: »
    The whole coronavirus thing in Ireland is a farce. They (nphet) are simply adding numbers onto the death total and the cases totals as a matter of fiction. We have done great to control the virus in recent months and now just need to get on with life again. I for one will be opening my pub next week and no one will stop me
    Why wait till next week? What's different next week compared to this week?


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    #9950
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users Posts: 14,626 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Patd6 wrote: »
    The whole coronavirus thing in Ireland is a farce. They (nphet) are simply adding numbers onto the death total and the cases totals as a matter of fiction. We have done great to control the virus in recent months and now just need to get on with life again. I for one will be opening my pub next week and no one will stop me



    22-05-2020, 21:35
    Patd6 wrote: »
    So I am getting the 350 emergency social welfare as work have temporarily laid me off due to covid having impact on business. The reality is there is no guarantee I will get role back with them as their business has been hit hard. Hence I have interviewed elsewhere. And thankfully I got an offer from elsewhere. However per my contract I will not be able to start in other place until late July due to covid. If I hand in my notice in current role now and sign contract for new role will I be given zero monies by social welfare over coming 2 months?


    Congrats on going from being an employee to pub owner in the just over two months.


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    #9951
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    youandme13 wrote: »
    My partner was a healthy 30yo Male prior to April was very sick for a few weeks which we now believe was covid. He is still suffering badly and has problems with both his lungs and heart, he is having to see private consultants in both these fields to try find out what long term damage there may be. He still cant go back to full fitness and has breathing problems and heart palpitations, none of which he suffered with before.
    He spent the first few weeks being fobbed off by the GP given inhalers and steroids etc been told it was asthma, when the inhalers made him ten times worse.

    I hope he gets a diagnosis soon and gets better.


    Leicester, had a massive outbreak followed by a lockdown. Then no extra deaths.
    Testing increased 8fold followed by the detected cases.

    Where will be next..


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    #9952
    ImAHappyCamper
    Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭ImAHappyCamper


    Why would Limerick start showing a fairly steady rise in cases folks?


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    #9953
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,638 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    ImAHappyCamper wrote: »
    Why would Limerick start showing a fairly steady rise in cases folks?
    Traveller funeral apparently


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    #9954
    niallo27
    Registered Users Posts: 16,010 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    ImAHappyCamper wrote: »
    Why would Limerick start showing a fairly steady rise in cases folks?

    They all headed back to Kilkee for the weekend.


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    #9955
    Ineedaname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 369 ✭✭Ineedaname


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Any truth in American hospitals getting a lot more money if they list a death as covid of if they put a patient on a ventilator.

    When I read your post I thought it sounded crazy after looking into it turns out it's partly true. Doctors can claim reimbursement for treating Medicare patients and get considerably more if a patient ends up on a ventilator and dies.

    That said though it's important to point out that there is no evidence of deliberate misreporting for financial gain. In fact many hospitals are losing money hand over fist.


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    #9956
    niallo27
    Registered Users Posts: 16,010 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    expectationlost wrote: »
    you think they have ventilators to spare?

    Thats not what I asked and yes I think you will find many states have plenty of spare ventilators.


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    #9957
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,716 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Any news about n the primary and secondary schools? Are they still be going ahead with this stupid plan?


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    #9958
    Strumms
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    normanoffside wrote: »
    Varadkar himself said it

    https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1278995351169613824

    Exactly, a corporate massage monkey.. a money boy... precisely the fûcking absolute wankbag clown whose slow out of the blocks fearful inaction meant that from word go we were fighting this from a back foot stance... fearful of stepping on the toes of the corporates, exactly a FG moneyboy type reaction.... you didn’t need to script it.


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    #9959
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Varadkar himself said it

    https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1278995351169613824

    Now why would a politician potentially point to something that may absolve him of consequences of his decisions. In particular nursing homes?
    I wonder why.


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    #9960
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    So Finland are doing testing at airports for people arriving from countries with greater than 10 per 100K infection rates.
    Germany is doing similar?

    Quiz question. When will paddy do it?
    Oh yeah last.


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    #9961
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,638 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Any news about n the primary and secondary schools? Are they still be going ahead with this stupid plan?
    Full steam ahead.
    I was talking to a secondary vice-principal yesterday and the word he used to describe the schools starting is '****show'.


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