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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    road_high wrote: »
    I presume the same staff will be equally reticent to accept the wages into their bank accounts then?

    You ever heard of unions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,265 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    There's no way of sugar coating 174 new cases.

    :eek::(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I don't know how people are so optimistic, the testers seem to be two weeks behind,expect this number to double in the next 2 weeks. The only positive I see is that is looks to be only factories at the moment but what's going to happen when we have 1000s of students all packed together? It's mayhem

    To put it simply, people still don't understand the virus and the spread timelines, at this point probably through ignorance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭feelings


    Wasn't far off at 174...
    feelings wrote: »
    So at a guess...150-200 new cases today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    1641 wrote: »
    Incidence seems to be the main indicator at the moment:


    “As outlined by the Acting Chief Medical Officer at the press conference last night, the 14-day incidence per 100,000 population in Kildare, Laois and Offaly is worryingly high.

    “While the national incidence stands at 16.3 per 100,000, in Kildare it stands at 130.3, in Laois it is 69.7 and in Offaly it is 89.8."

    https://www.thejournal.ie/coronavirus-new-cases-5-5170971-Aug2020/

    Am I reading that right? So potentially we're going to see approximately 400 cases coming from these 3 counties?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭brookers


    I dont work in a meat factory but what i see is really gross, I work for a government agency and meet the public. They come in all chuffed with themselves because they wear a mask, then they start fiddling with it, mainly older people, pullint at it with their fingers, up and down over their mouth and nose, then they take it off and throw it on the counter, on top of my paper work. I actually think masks will spread covid, some people are just plain dirty, gross and stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    There's no way of sugar coating 174 new cases.

    If you discount the clusters, and the community transmission, and the healthcare workers and travel, you’ve only got the under investigation left, so discount those too, then we’re grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    There's no way of sugar coating 174 new cases.

    Sugar coating is probably not the right phrase but there is a big difference between a majority of 174 new cases coming from a few known outbreaks in 3 counties, and 174 new cases dotted randomly throughout the country.

    The whole situation is too complex to look at just an individual figure. Context is key.

    I'm not saying we aren't in a precarious situation though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Cameron326


    Eating food is essential, drinking booze isnt.

    But we’re not talking about food in general, we’re talking about meat. Eating meat isn’t essential. A lot of it isn’t even good for you. A month of less national meat consumption is a small price to pay for stopping all these meat factory clusters, in turn risking furthering community spread, in turn risk tightening lockdown including schools not opening properly in September.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    I don't know what to say but this made me laugh.
    Don't click if you don't like bad words don't click on it.

    Nicknames for covid: jamie redknapp

    https://twitter.com/ladbible/status/1291408242283876353?s=20


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,265 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Limerick high, cluster?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    To put it simply, people still don't understand the virus and the spread timelines, at this point probably through ignorance.

    I don't think it's ignorance tbh. We have a generation who just don't give a hoot about others and will form a narrative to fit that perspective.

    "It's not that dangerous"
    "It only kills old people"
    "Open the pubs ffs" etc...

    These same people are now suggesting the "gubbbbbermint" are massaging figures to fit agendas like it's some sort of grand master plan conspiracy to stop us all enjoying our lives.

    It's more immaturity than anything else tbh.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Ballinasloe / East Galway cluster ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    Cameron326 wrote: »
    But we’re not talking about food in general, we’re talking about meat. Eating meat isn’t essential. A lot of it isn’t even good for you. A month of less national meat consumption is a small price to pay for stopping all these meat factory clusters, in turn risking furthering community spread, in turn risk tightening lockdown including schools not opening properly in September.

    Oh im not agreeing with what they've done obviously they should have been shut down im just saying food is essential booze isn't.

    I love meat btw and nothing will ever change that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I can see how social distancing is difficult in meat factories. A cow much weigh a few hundred kg so the killing process needs a few people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭growleaves




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭ElTel


    Polar101 wrote: »
    They know who got tested positive and who got hospitalised, but most people recover at home - there's no way of gathering statistics on what kind of symptoms those people had, if any.

    Surely contract tracers asks questions about symptoms?
    Is info recorded or a questionnaire filled out at swab taking time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    I don't think it's ignorance tbh. We have a generation who just don't give a hoot about others and will form a narrative to fit that perspective.

    "It's not that dangerous"
    "It only kills old people"
    "Open the pubs ffs" etc...

    These same people are now suggesting the "gubbbbbermint" are massaging figures to fit agendas like it's some sort of grand master plan conspiracy to stop us all enjoying our lives.

    It's more immaturity than anything else tbh.

    Two threads in particular on this forum are echo chambers of misinformation


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    brookers wrote: »
    I dont work in a meat factory but what i see is really gross, I work for a government agency and meet the public. They come in all chuffed with themselves because they wear a mask, then they start fiddling with it, mainly older people, pullint at it with their fingers, up and down over their mouth and nose, then they take it off and throw it on the counter, on top of my paper work. I actually think masks will spread covid, some people are just plain dirty, gross and stupid.

    Ew. That is horrible. I do think masks are useful but people should deal with them like a used hankie. Who would throw their snotrag on someones desk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    growleaves wrote: »

    God that is depressing. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,156 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Helsinki airport (in Finland) tries out "voluntary" Covid-19 testing for incoming passengers. They asked all passengers on a flight from Bucharest, Romania to take a Covid test at the airport, free of charge.

    There were over 100 passengers on the flight. 60 of them agreed to take the test, the rest of them declined.

    https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/passengers_from_bucharest_tested_on_arrival_at_helsinki_airport/11484992

    How many tested positive would have been kinda relevant


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,681 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Gael23 wrote: »
    I can see how social distancing is difficult in meat factories. A cow much weigh a few hundred kg so the killing process needs a few people

    The factories also use a lot of refrigeration and air conditioning which they suspect played a big role in spreading the virus within the factories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    growleaves wrote: »

    It’s easy to forget that not all the stupid people of the world live in the USA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    Is MM due to make a speech?

    Rte one live on YouTube the past hour under the title "Statement by taoiseach Micheal Martin on covid 19" . But its actually the Saturday evening movie they are showing. It's not a great movie either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Are all cases in workers working in Kildare assigned to Kildare or if you work in Kildare and live elsewhere, is that case assigned to your county of residence?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭YellowBucket


    The factories also use a lot of refrigeration and air conditioning which they suspect played a big role in spreading the virus within the factories.

    I'd assume they're very high recirculation of air places as effectively they're working in a giant fridge. To maintain those low temperatures requires recirculation. I would assume you're going to need filtration and probably uv treatment of recirculation to deal with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    What's worrying is that workers were taking paracetamol and whatever to suppress their symptoms, this was being discussed back in July by the oireachtas and in the papers back in May. If they are doing that do you think they care if they spread it in the community.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    fritzelly wrote: »
    How many tested positive would have been kinda relevant

    Yeah, but Finland isn't very good with that sort of stuff - results will come in a few days. Not the most well organised test there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭maebee


    growleaves wrote: »

    I'm sure every one of them would refuse hospital treatment if they ever contract covid. Idiots.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    rodders999 wrote: »
    Boycott Brady Family Ham, absolute disgrace. The business community of Kildare should sue them for every cent lost in the next 2 weeks. What a **** show.
    Won't be buying it anymore. Same goes for Carroll's.

    We don't know yet if this was caused by negligence though do we? Air con, temperatures in those factories? Or maybe it spread in the staff accomodations, which you can't blame the companies for? But absence of a sick pay scheme could be a factor.


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