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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #8522
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    They introduced a rule 2 months ago and it was abided by. There is no "less people entering and less chance of it spreading", by closing at 11pm. The last food has been served and no new customers would be in. There's the current customers maintaining the same social distancing that they were. Argue all you want about whether that's ok or not, but nothing has happened that I'm aware of to make them change the guidelines.
    Going on your logic, "someone who thinks they are immune and will never come into contact with some who could come into contact with someone vulnerable is asymptomatic" they'd be just kept shut. Life goes on, it has to. What is it with people that think we can just eradicate risk.

    At first I was the same, thinking a half hour earlier finish time makes no sense but it does make sense now. It gives staff extra time to clean and disinfect the premises.


  • #8523
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    So now that the dust is settling a little on the three county lockdown maybe we can predict where the next lockdown will be. I’m sure this will be particularly helpful to government as they haven’t a rashers what they are doing currently.

    Will the next lockdown be centered around:

    A meat plant 6/5
    A Direct Provision Center 5/6
    Anywhere else. 25/1


  • #8524
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    So now that the dust is settling a little on the three county lockdown maybe we can predict where the next lockdown will be. I’m sure this will be particularly helpful to government as the haven’t a rashers what they are doing currently.

    Will the next lockdown be centered around:

    A meat plant 6/5
    A Direct Provision Center 5/6
    Anywhere else. 25/1

    Option d
    A halting site.


  • #8525
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Isnt the reaction to covid becoming far worse than the illness?
    Can't imagine what the next few years are going to look like in Ireland.


  • #8526
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,255 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    Looking at the covid app and it says 438 people required ICU treatment since this pandemic kicked off, Do we know how many of them survived? or are we not told this information


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  • #8527
    PowerToWait
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Onesea wrote: »
    Isnt the reaction to covid becoming far worse than the illness?
    Can't imagine what the next few years are going to look like in Ireland.

    Good thing you don’t live here then.


  • #8528
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    PowerToWait wrote: »
    Good thing you don’t live here then.

    I'm not that selfish
    I might not see my dad again. He's old&alone and has had health issues,restrictions are growing both here in Norway and in Ireland. All other siblings out of work, with kids and houses to look after.I am lucky to live here no doubt.


  • #8529
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    Option d
    A halting site.

    Isnt that pretty much the same as a direct center, just with extra social welfare pbenefits


  • #8530
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,206 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    Aisha Slimy Trapezoid wrote: »
    Do you think, there is just the slight, tiny possibility that this virus is not as dangerous as we first expected...

    No. Ask Italy.


  • #8531
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,206 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    Aisha Slimy Trapezoid wrote: »
    Freedoms being taken away, mandated muzzle being imposed on people, restriction of movements, all being pushed through by decree without any debate or any resistance because 19 people contracted this unremarkable virus??? But by all means rush to show your compliance.

    Unremarkable, in what way?


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  • #8532
    Deja Boo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,206 ✭✭✭✭Deja Boo


    Onesea wrote: »
    Isnt the reaction to covid becoming far worse than the illness?

    No. It is devastating.


  • #8533
    quartz1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭quartz1


    Can anyone explain to me why it's reasonable to lockdown three Counties and at the same time turn a blind eye to tourists from hotspots or Irish returning from red list Countries to not quarantine . I appreciate their been asked to quarantine but it's clearly.not been enforced..


  • #8534
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    So now that the dust is settling a little on the three county lockdown maybe we can predict where the next lockdown will be. I’m sure this will be particularly helpful to government as they haven’t a rashers what they are doing currently.

    Will the next lockdown be centered around:

    A meat plant 6/5
    A Direct Provision Center 5/6
    Anywhere else. 25/1

    It’s not a lockdown


  • #8535
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    So now that the dust is settling a little on the three county lockdown maybe we can predict where the next lockdown will be. I’m sure this will be particularly helpful to government as they haven’t a rashers what they are doing currently.

    Will the next lockdown be centered around:

    A meat plant 6/5
    A Direct Provision Center 5/6
    Anywhere else. 25/1

    Easy school.


  • #8536
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Definite downward trend of deaths and cases globally with nowhere near the level of lockdown the world had back in april and much more testing. This thing is slowing down.


  • #8537
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    froog wrote: »
    Definite downward trend of deaths and cases globally with nowhere near the level of lockdown the world had back in april and much more testing. This thing is slowing down.

    There were 80k new cases reported on April 8th
    Yesterday there were 269k new cases reported.


  • #8538
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    There were 80k new cases reported on April 8th
    Yesterday there were 269k new cases reported.

    I said its slowing down. The daily deaths and cases are getting lower the last few days.


  • #8539
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    froog wrote: »
    Definite downward trend of deaths and cases globally with nowhere near the level of lockdown the world had back in april and much more testing. This thing is slowing down.

    Cases are stable at 250k a day globally and deaths are rising?


  • #8540
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    froog wrote: »
    I said its slowing down. The daily deaths and cases are getting lower the last few days.

    Nope.


  • #8541
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    froog wrote: »
    I said its slowing down. The daily deaths and cases are getting lower the last few days.

    That's not what you said at all. Maybe you meant one thing but you wrote something different


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  • #8542
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    That's not what you said at all. Maybe you meant one thing but you wrote something different

    What part of "definite downward trend" and "this thing is slowing down" are you having problems with understanding?


  • #8543
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    froog wrote: »
    What part of "definite downward trend" and "this thing is slowing down" are you having problems with understanding?

    Where are you getting your figures from?


  • #8544
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    froog wrote: »
    What part of "definite downward trend" and "this thing is slowing down" are you having problems with understanding?

    A few swallows dont make a summer.

    Comparing April global figures was an error I'd say. Current daily figures are 4 times that amount


  • #8545
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,539 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    We are about to reach 300k cases a day and 6k deaths.

    I'd hate to see the thing speeding up.


  • #8546
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    It actually is slowing down globally. Another likely reality is infection is far more reaching which leaves us with a lower fatality rate.


  • #8547
    Cameron326
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Cameron326


    Strikes me as funny that at a time when the West is laying into China over this, that and the other, the CCP handling of arguably the biggest global crisis in 50 years has been (first couple of weeks aside) absolutely exemplary. Everyone over there is happily going about their business mask free and lockdown is fast becoming a distant memory.

    They locked down, they masked up, they tested and traced, proper quarantine, ban incoming flights. And they did it all consistently over a two-three month period, with a fierce track and trace system and quarantine/flight ban still in place today, and they did it with severity. And all school kids had masks on for the first month or so back to school - ten hour school day over there.

    After all that, THEN you’re in a position to talk about normal school opening, restaurants, and shopping for pleasure. THEN the economy is coming virtually back to normal and individual/consumer confidence is totally recovered. Short term pain, long term gain. The idea that you can just keep removing one block after another indefinitely, Jenga style, when your Base isn’t properly established, is just fantasy. (The Base being: low initial daily infections, virtually flawless testing and tracing system, enforced quarantine) . Virtually the only other country that seems to have their **** together in tackling this thing is South Korea.


  • #8548
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    froog wrote: »
    What part of "definite downward trend" and "this thing is slowing down" are you having problems with understanding?

    Can you illustrate how there's a downward trend? Global cases are nearly four times what they were in April on a daily basis. Many European countries are seeing resurgences. What happened to "things will be back to normality by August"?

    Lower death rates in many countries can be put down to more identification of asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic cases due to a way broader testing criteria.

    In fact, what viruses do long term is mutate to a milder form so they have more hosts. Contrary to popular belief, viruses really don't want to kill their hosts as this means they can't survive, instead they want to infect as many people as possible. There's some researchers who believe that this has already happened since March but that's for the experts to decide and comment on and for the moment definitely isn't something that policy should be based off of.


  • #8549
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    ExMachina1000 wrote: »
    A few swallows dont make a summer.

    Comparing April global figures was an error I'd say. Current daily figures are 4 times that amount

    I wasnt comparing April figures. You are.


  • #8550
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Where are you getting your figures from?

    Worldometer. The 7 day average globally is now moving downwards for daily cases.


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  • #8551
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    froog wrote: »
    I wasnt comparing April figures. You are.

    You specifically mentioned April. I answered.


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