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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #8222
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    6034073


  • #8223
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    i_surge wrote: »
    How is it not?

    Life was put on hold in wuhan where there was a proper lockdown. You couldn’t leave your house.
    This is not a lockdown. It’s a restriction. A fairly half arsed one at that, racing at the curragh to go ahead etc. People aren’t locked down!!


  • #8224
    Scoondal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Hahaha Ireland can't cope. Rubbish government ... we want Leadership .


  • #8225
    Scoondal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Has our Taoeseagj/ Tisioch/tishoch whatever we call our Prime Minister gone into hiding ?


  • #8226
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    So there's a bunch of asymptomatic people who are self-isolating, yet the Dublin government decide to shut down 3 whole counties? The mind boggles.


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  • #8227
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,674 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Can they not lockdown and cocoon though?

    Yes they do, and this is tough for them.


  • #8228
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,465 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    People were shouted down here even yesterday by the everything is grand crowd when they dared suggest that there would be localised restrictions and just a day later here we are.


  • #8229
    mountgomery burns
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    delly wrote: »
    Just to follow up on the gaa posts, as a non gaa person, I spoke with someone today who received a notification that someone they had been training with had been tested for covid following a display of symptoms. The problem is however that this person went to training after their test. So you can have the best systems in place, but you can't deny it's an outlet for potential spread if people don't follow procedures.

    No you ultimately cannot account for the action of every individual with regard to the rules for society as a whole. But you could apply the same logic you have done there to any other setting where this same person ignored advice to self isolate, for example he goes to a supermarket and doesn't wear a mask.

    Ultimately if you were to blanket ban everything, you just push people like that in to less controlled environments and situations that could be:

    A) more likely to cause an outbreak
    B) harder for public health teams to track and trace


  • #8230
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,465 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Has our Taoeseagj/ Tisioch/tishoch whatever we call our Prime Minister gone into hiding ?

    Taoiseach. It isn't that hard.


  • #8231
    The Unbearables
    Closed Accounts Posts: 359 ✭✭The Unbearables


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Has our Taoeseagj/ Tisioch/tishoch whatever we call our Prime Minister gone into hiding ?

    Nope, he was on the TV about an hour ago.


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  • #8232
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,674 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    GazzaL wrote: »
    So there's a bunch of asymptomatic people who are self-isolating, yet the Dublin government decide to shut down 3 whole counties? The mind boggles.

    If they were to take another approach, then another group of people would be unhappy. They're in a very difficult situation IMO. They can't keep everyone happy


  • #8233
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Life on hold :pac: let me get my violin

    Freedoms being taken away, mandated muzzle being imposed on people, restriction of movements, all being pushed through by decree without any debate or any resistance because 19 people contracted this unremarkable virus??? But by all means rush to show your compliance.


  • #8234
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Face coverings for secondary school students where social distancing can't be maintained. Are there any teachers here? What are the plans for schools and social distancing?

    It's a pack of sh1te for sure. It's OK wearing a mask going shopping. You can get shopping done in an hour or two but a whole school day from 9 til 4pm. That will be a pack of crap. Students will need to have a change of masks for each day and change masks with each break and from lunchtime. It will be a pack of balls altogether for 1st year students entering into secondary school. The teachers will have to take the first years outside so they can all show each other their faces before they cover up for the year ahead til a vaccine comes through. Christ on a bike!


  • #8235
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    People were shouted down here even yesterday by the everything is grand crowd when they dared suggest that there would be localised restrictions and just a day later here we are.

    Agreed. People have been shouted down on here for a long time in the eyes of the everything’s ok brigade.
    This has been inevitable from a long way out due to human nature and the ability of the virus to spread so quickly and undetected (asymptotic cases)


  • #8236
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Has our Taoeseagj/ Tisioch/tishoch whatever we call our Prime Minister gone into hiding ?

    The fella who addressed the nation there a couple of hours ago?


  • #8237
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    GazzaL wrote: »
    So there's a bunch of asymptomatic people who are self-isolating, yet the Dublin government decide to shut down 3 whole counties? The mind boggles.

    Yes, asymptomatic can still spread the virus. It's mind boggling alright, why would they want to stop it spreading?


  • #8238
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,465 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Aisha Slimy Trapezoid wrote: »
    Freedoms being taken away, mandated muzzle being imposed on people, restriction of movements, all being pushed through by decree without any debate or any resistance because 19 people contracted this unremarkable virus??? But by all means rush to show your compliance.

    When did muzzles become mandatory? Must've missed that.


  • #8239
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Face coverings for secondary school students where social distancing can't be maintained. Are there any teachers here? What are the plans for schools and social distancing?

    It's a pack of sh1te for sure. It's OK wearing a mask going shopping. You can get shopping done in an hour or two but a whole school day from 9 til 4pm. That will be a pack of crap. Students will need to have a change of masks for each day and change masks with each break and from lunchtime. It will be a pack of balls altogether for 1st year students entering into secondary school. The teachers will have to take the first years outside so they can all show each other their faces before they cover up for the year ahead til a vaccine comes through. Christ on a bike!

    The official guidelines plan for at most 1m distancing with 24 students plus staff in 49m2 classroom. So masks will be required the whole time more or less.


  • #8240
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,269 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Are GPs slow now to send people for tests as some are not showing up for tests?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #8241
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,876 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Aisha Slimy Trapezoid wrote: »
    Freedoms being taken away, mandated muzzle being imposed on people, restriction of movements, all being pushed through by decree without any debate or any resistance because 19 people contracted this unremarkable virus??? But by all means rush to show your compliance.

    It bit like a scratched record here.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • #8242
    shinzon
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    GazzaL wrote: »
    So there's a bunch of asymptomatic people who are self-isolating, yet the Dublin government decide to shut down 3 whole counties? The mind boggles.

    Jaysus the mind boggles alright perhaps its because of this that there doing it and to try to prevent the spread nip it in the bud before it becomes a problem

    The #LOKdown counties have had days this week where they represent over 70% of new cases, despite only having 8% of Ireland's population.

    Shin


  • #8243
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    https://twitter.com/Thorgwen/status/1291784011736584198?s=20


  • #8244
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,134 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Aisha Slimy Trapezoid wrote: »
    Freedoms being taken away, mandated muzzle being imposed on people, restriction of movements, all being pushed through by decree without any debate or any resistance because 19 people contracted this unremarkable virus??? But by all means rush to show your compliance.

    This is what your up against!


  • #8245
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    Any word on if the app is helping with the current outbreak?


  • #8246
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,760 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    People were shouted down here even yesterday by the everything is grand crowd when they dared suggest that there would be localised restrictions and just a day later here we are.
    Who is the everything is grand crowd?


  • #8247
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,674 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    shinzon wrote: »
    Jaysus the mind boggles alright perhaps its because of this that there doing it and to try to prevent the spread nip it in the bud before it becomes a problem

    The #LOKdown counties have had days this week where they represent over 70% of new cases, despite only having 8% of Ireland's population.

    Shin

    Bingo


  • #8248
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    GazzaL wrote: »
    So there's a bunch of asymptomatic people who are self-isolating, yet the Dublin government decide to shut down 3 whole counties? The mind boggles.

    I suggest you learn how to read charts and stats.

    It's not a Dublin v rest of country thing. Such an idiotic argument.


  • #8249
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Yadiel Faint Tanner wrote: »
    The official guidelines plan for at most 1m distancing with 24 students plus staff in 49m2 classroom. So masks will be required the whole time more or less.

    That's going to be tough and I don't know if this was thought through. Students will need to have a supply of masks and they will have to store them correctly too after use each in their own ziplock bags.


    I think the only way forward for secondary school is blended learning. Some at home/online learning and teaching and some school part time, maybe for practical classes like science, home economics, woodwork, art etc. I haven't a clue how it's going to work but what an absolute balls this 2020 and virus stiff is turning out to be.


  • #8250
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    tom1ie wrote: »
    This is what your up against!

    Yeah it's a wet dream for the tinfoil hatters. Still don't understand the muzzle comments. Wearing a mask protects others. Pretty simple really.


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  • #8251
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,856 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    PixieValentine wrote: »
    Ah here. You don’t have to like the guy, that’s absolutely fine. But it’s also pretty unfair to say he was laughing and sniggering at numbers of people dying.

    He openly said the worst part of every day for him was the updates in the evening bringing the news of how many new cases and deaths were reported that day. On at least two other occasions he stressed that it was important that people not get too desensitised and just see the day’s numbers as numbers, that it was important to remember they represented real people who were sick and who had died, and families and friends that were grieving the loss of loved ones.

    Leo definitely didn’t handle covid perfectly, he and his government most certainly made mistakes. And the Mean Girls quote, though I don’t believe it came from any bad place, was probably not his best idea. But it’s going way too far to say he laughed at people dying.

    I’m really sorry to hear that you’re struggling with worry over vulnerable family though. It’s a very tough time for people in that position, but also equally tough for the people who love them.

    He’s a fûcking arsehole, and he made a mess of a job which he was elected and entrusted to do... the mean girls thing isn’t on that level but just shows the direction of the mans thought process in a time of huge uncertainty, danger and fear for the country and it’s citizens... quoting fûcking mean girls, the absolute cünt.


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