Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

Thierry12 · 07-08-2020 11:00PM

majcos wrote: »

And no confirmed hospitalised cases in Portlaoise, Tullamore or Naas....yet.

Let’s hope it stays that way and the demographics of the current cluster will act in their favour.

If that does turn out that way, then we need to lock up over 50s and go on as we are

ACitizenErased · 07-08-2020 11:00PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

10 in hospital in the whole country?

I thought we had 300+ cases this week alone and covid puts 20% of infected in hospital?

A lot of the people who had it in the factories are asymptomatic

majcos · 07-08-2020 11:00PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

10 in hospital in the whole country?

I thought we had 300+ cases this week alone and covid puts 20% of infected in hospital?

As testing moves to testing people who have no symptoms on a screening and contact tracing basis, the rate of hospitalisation will fall.

Initially only tested the sicker cases so we had a higher hospitalisation rate.

tom1ie · 07-08-2020 11:00PM

Equium wrote: »

I had a very mild case as I was only bedridden for 3 or 4 days. Fever lasted about the same, as did the muscular pains and extreme fatigue. I believe that a mild case is often defined as one not requiring hospitalisation. I wasn't hospitalised but had pneumonia (diagnosed by GP) for about 6 weeks - at the time I just felt that it was the worst flu I had ever experienced.

Afterwards I still struggled to breathe properly or perform any physical exercise until recently. My girlfriend also had the illness and suffered worse symptoms than I did. Thankfully she wasn't hospitalised either, but she also didn't recover properly until recently. It's the longer lasting issues that really frighten me. I don't know when I will stop sweating every time I move from indoors to outdoors. I don't know when I will no longer have to breathe very deeply to feel I take in enough air. I don't know when the constant migraines will stop.

As for how long term effects of the disease are projected or quantified, I do not work in the medical profession and therefore do not feel comfortable commenting on the findings on chronic effects of covid as described in various medical journals. Happy to bow to the experts on this one. But put it this way - it's not something I'd recommend picking up.

That’s a nightmare man. I hope you get better.
Just out of interest has there been any follow on scans by the doctors or blood pressure tests etc or have you gone back to the doc to get lung capacity checked?
It’s just I keep hearing about these effects and I wonder can we pinpoint what the exact long term effects are?

Thierry12 · 07-08-2020 11:01PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Usually hospitalisation runs a week or ten days behind.

True will be interesting how it turns out

majcos · 07-08-2020 11:04PM

Beanybabog wrote: »

That seems quite low then, a hundred and something, I thought everyone was being tested on admission to hospital. Wasn’t there something recently about private fees for any surgery patients needing a test

More than that tested and cleared in hospitals during the day. The ‘suspected’ cases counted in morning are not all the same cases that make it in to the midday and evening counts. Some patients even tested and cleared between the counts.

Rapid turnaround times for testing in some labs are under an hour now. Priority given to patients needing emergency surgery, in ICUs, or needing transfer to another hospital.

majcos · 07-08-2020 11:06PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Usually hospitalisation runs a week or ten days behind.

Hospitalisation rates will not be as high in this cohort of cases. Many asymptomatic and will remain so.

07-08-2020 11:10PM

Equium wrote: »

I had a very mild case as I was only bedridden for 3 or 4 days. Fever lasted about the same, as did the muscular pains and extreme fatigue. I believe that a mild case is often defined as one not requiring hospitalisation. I wasn't hospitalised but had pneumonia (diagnosed by GP) for about 6 weeks - at the time I just felt that it was the worst flu I had ever experienced.

Afterwards I still struggled to breathe properly or perform any physical exercise until recently. My girlfriend also had the illness and suffered worse symptoms than I did. Thankfully she wasn't hospitalised either, but she also didn't recover properly until recently. It's the longer lasting issues that really frighten me. I don't know when I will stop sweating every time I move from indoors to outdoors. I don't know when I will no longer have to breathe very deeply to feel I take in enough air. I don't know when the constant migraines will stop.

As for how long term effects of the disease are projected or quantified, I do not work in the medical profession and therefore do not feel comfortable commenting on the findings on chronic effects of covid as described in various medical journals. Happy to bow to the experts on this one. But put it this way - it's not something I'd recommend picking up.

That is not mild, there is everything from asymptomatic right up to death and everything in between. Some people have this and barely know they have it, others are unable to breath unaided. What you are describing is relatively severe. I'm not sure why you are describing it as 'very mild'.

Jack Nicklaus the golfer had it at 80. He said all he experienced was a sore throat. That is very mild.

Widdensushi · 07-08-2020 11:11PM

majcos wrote: »

Hospitalisation rates will not be as high in this cohort of cases. Many asymptomatic and will remain so.

Is age the reason for more asymptomatic?

07-08-2020 11:11PM

Equium wrote: »

I had a very mild case as I was only bedridden for 3 or 4 days. Fever lasted about the same, as did the muscular pains and extreme fatigue. I believe that a mild case is often defined as one not requiring hospitalisation. I wasn't hospitalised but had pneumonia (diagnosed by GP) for about 6 weeks - at the time I just felt that it was the worst flu I had ever experienced.

Afterwards I still struggled to breathe properly or perform any physical exercise until recently. My girlfriend also had the illness and suffered worse symptoms than I did. Thankfully she wasn't hospitalised either, but she also didn't recover properly until recently. It's the longer lasting issues that really frighten me. I don't know when I will stop sweating every time I move from indoors to outdoors. I don't know when I will no longer have to breathe very deeply to feel I take in enough air. I don't know when the constant migraines will stop.

As for how long term effects of the disease are projected or quantified, I do not work in the medical profession and therefore do not feel comfortable commenting on the findings on chronic effects of covid as described in various medical journals. Happy to bow to the experts on this one. But put it this way - it's not something I'd recommend picking up.

Good luck and take care.

majcos · 07-08-2020 11:13PM

I suspect that the decision to impose the ‘LOKdown’ is not just due to the number of cases in the outbreaks but could also be due to the number of contacts that each of those cases had.

At the height of the restrictions, confirmed cases had very low number of contacts but as restrictions eased the number of contacts for confirmed cases has risen. The current cases may have numerous contacts not just those within their workplace and residential settings but in the much wider community.

Thierry12 · 07-08-2020 11:15PM

majcos wrote: »

Hospitalisation rates will not be as high in this cohort of cases. Many asymptomatic and will remain so.

What if thats always been that way?

Google says we have 2000 active/not recovered cases right now

If 10 in hospital, thats 0.5% hospitalisation rate from covid

We had 3,300 in hospital total

660,000 people/11% of the country have had Covid?

YFlyer · 07-08-2020 11:16PM

What the heck is happening with hugh increase in infection in Japan?

Thierry12 · 07-08-2020 11:18PM

YFlyer wrote: »

What the heck is happening with hugh increase in infection in Japan?

And very very few dieing

Strange

Away With The Fairies · 07-08-2020 11:18PM

I only figured out what LOKdown meant. Laois, Offaly, Kildare.

majcos · 07-08-2020 11:20PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Is age the reason for more asymptomatic?

Partly. Asymptomatic cases were there all along during the height of the numbers here but not tested. Labs didn’t have the ability to test. Initially only NVRL could test and even they had limited technology, chemicals etc to do so.

Even contacts of confirmed cases were not tested at the very start. They were advised to quarantine but only tested if symptomatic.

Now have much more capacity to test so can test all contacts of a confirmed case and screen workforces whether they have symptoms or not.

But because well people are being tested, even if positive they are not going to be hospitalised. They could deteriorate but those numbers will be small. Even if become sick, may not be sick enough to need admission.

07-08-2020 11:20PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Just been informed of an English lad living on the south side of the city who has his mates over for the weekend and they are out and about.

Naturally my friend who is a housemate was not consulted about the visit and is going mad.

****. Is there any advice here? She came home to find them drunk having been out today and they will be at the same for the rest of the weekend.

I think a lynching is in order.

JP Liz V1 · 07-08-2020 11:20PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I only figured out what LOKdown meant. Laois, Offaly, Kildare.

Welcome

ACitizenErased · 07-08-2020 11:21PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Just been informed of an English lad living on the south side of the city who has his mates over for the weekend and they are out and about.

Naturally my friend who is a housemate was not consulted about the visit and is going mad.

****. Is there any advice here? She came home to find them drunk having been out today and they will be at the same for the rest of the weekend.

Call the Gardai.

Renjit · 07-08-2020 11:22PM

Jolly good times!

fritzelly · 07-08-2020 11:23PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I only figured out what LOKdown meant. Laois, Offaly, Kildare.

Time to start making up some more acronyms for the other counties for when it happens - can think of a few but maybe not very appropriate

WoollyRedHat · 07-08-2020 11:25PM

screamer wrote: »

I’d say it’ll be an advisory for people in the 3 counties to limit their movements except for essential reasons and work. If cases continue to rise, they may well see restrictions on how far they can travel etc.
I’ve noticed that mask wearing is rising but unfortunately hand sanitisation is declining. I’ve seen lots of people get into their cars, whip off their masks and fail to sanitise their hands and drive away. Masks are great, but hand sanitisation is so important.

Don't come out you black and tans

Wolf359f · 07-08-2020 11:25PM

YFlyer wrote: »

What the heck is happening with hugh increase in infection in Japan?

Thierry12 wrote: »

And very very few dieing

Strange

I know, just like America, cases rising and deaths falling.... oh wait there was a lag in deaths, it's not like that now.

07-08-2020 11:25PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I only figured out what LOKdown meant. Laois, Offaly, Kildare.

What happens when it’s Cork, Offaly, Clare and Kerry?

WoollyRedHat · 07-08-2020 11:26PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Your extrapolation is complete and utter flawed bs.

Similiar to how a minority of people incesstantly touching their masks automatically makes it more dangerous for transmission, than if people didn't wear one at all? Give over.

Pinch Flat · 07-08-2020 11:28PM

Renjit wrote: »

Jolly good times!

Ah bless. True patriots.

Thierry12 · 07-08-2020 11:29PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

I know, just like America, cases rising and deaths falling.... oh wait there was a lag in deaths, it's not like that now.

Read up on Japan

Nothing like the US

Away With The Fairies · 07-08-2020 11:29PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What happens when it’s Cork, Offaly, Clare and Kerry?

That would be a cock up.

ExMachina1000 · 07-08-2020 11:31PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Should a local lockdown allow horse racing that will attract people from other county’s into that lockdowned county?

Yes definitely

MD1990 · 07-08-2020 11:32PM

https://twitter.com/VirginMediaNews/status/1291864195512717313

this guy could do something crazy.

Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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