Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

Wolf359f wrote: »

A lot of people seem to think it's all down to the government to fix or get us out of this pandemic, the majority of the burden falls on each and every one of us.

Equium wrote: »

It's amazing how many people cannot understand how serious this virus is and can be for people of all ages. It's not an 'unremarkable virus', and that only a small minority of people in the country contracted it is not due to a lack of infectiousness but due to extreme efforts undertaken to control its spread. Left unchecked this virus would have caused carnage. Have you already forgotten the last few months of lockdown?

Of the 26,470 of us who are known to have contracted the virus, 6.8% have died. Extrapolating for the entire population of country would mean 330k deaths, i.e more than the population of Galway. Of course that number is skewed significantly by deaths of people in the later stages of their lives. Even so, a death rate of just 10% of that value would be an absolute travesty. Those who did unfortunately pass away also had the advantage of being cared for in a functioning healthcare system. If the system is overrun then people, regardless of age, will not be treated and mortality rates will go through the roof.

And mortality is only one part of this. Have a look at reports from around the world on the longer lasting effects of having covid. Young people are being left with chronuc lifelong damage to their lungs, cardiovascular systems and suffering from long term fatigue. I was unfortunate enough to pick this up very early in the year and I still haven't recovered fully despite having been a quite moderate case. For two months I was out of breath after climbing a set of stairs, and any sort of physical exercise would have me ready for bed. This is from an active guy in his late 20s who played football 4 times per week. Even now I find myself sweating profusely doing the easiest of physical activity. Make no mistake that this is a serious virus that can be life altering to absolutely anybody.

Equium wrote: »

It's amazing how many people cannot understand how serious this virus is and can be for people of all ages. It's not an 'unremarkable virus', and that only a small minority of people in the country contracted it is not due to a lack of infectiousness but due to extreme efforts undertaken to control its spread. Left unchecked this virus would have caused carnage. Have you already forgotten the last few months of lockdown?

Of the 26,470 of us who are known to have contracted the virus, 6.8% have died. Extrapolating for the entire population of country would mean 330k deaths, i.e more than the population of Galway. Of course that number is skewed significantly by deaths of people in the later stages of their lives. Even so, a death rate of just 10% of that value would be an absolute travesty. Those who did unfortunately pass away also had the advantage of being cared for in a functioning healthcare system. If the system is overrun then people, regardless of age, will not be treated and mortality rates will go through the roof.

And mortality is only one part of this. Have a look at reports from around the world on the longer lasting effects of having covid. Young people are being left with chronuc lifelong damage to their lungs, cardiovascular systems and suffering from long term fatigue. I was unfortunate enough to pick this up very early in the year and I still haven't recovered fully despite having been a quite moderate case. For two months I was out of breath after climbing a set of stairs, and any sort of physical exercise would have me ready for bed. This is from an active guy in his late 20s who played football 4 times per week. Even now I find myself sweating profusely doing the easiest of physical activity. Make no mistake that this is a serious virus that can be life altering to absolutely anybody.

tom1ie wrote: »

As people from counties that aren’t “locked down” have to travel to a “locked down” county to run the horses etc.
Lol! It’s ridiculous!

redarmy wrote: »

Taoiseach has given assurances that inspections at meat factories will be ramped up and are a priority. He said from tomorrow Social Welfare Inspectors will be calling unannounced to these factories to ensure nobody is claiming PUP.

niallo27 wrote: »

Its a big business that provides a lot of employment, plenty of people will have to travel for work into these counties anyway.

normanoffside wrote: »

Shane Beatty asked Dr Glynn if the 4 deaths were recent or Historic and Glynn said he wasn't sure.

Did anyone else catch that?

How can he not know?

The Unbearables wrote: »

Horse racing is essential now folks.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I thought you would be glad grow that they are taking targeted measures based on the location of outbreaks rather than a blanket, countrywide approach

growleaves wrote: »

I am glad, it's much less-worse than shutting down the country again.

But the lockdowns in Leicester, Aberdeen and now Laois, Offaly and Kildare have normalised lockdown. They've also lowered the bar in terms of criteria it seems to me.

I predicted lots more lockdowns a few months back, pessimistically, and that's already happening. Maybe we'll have lockdowns for controlling CO2 emissions in the future as well.

We're looking at a few clusters in specific environments which are inherently un-distanced - factories, direct provision. These places, and nursing homes, will still retain their inherent disadvantages until someone finds a way to overcome such, right?

So obviously creativity is needed in the short or long term. Since nothing could be less practical than shutting down local and national economies, no expense should be spared in doing whatever else could be done - redesign factories, build spacious provision centres etc.

In fact Leo Varadkar on the radio discussed doing away with nursing homes altogether. He didn't say what would replace them but I'm guessing some system of mobile nursing.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

thats people with symptoms of course they're suspected.

Anyone with an outstanding swab in a hospital setting is a suspected case. I said it on here recently a family member is an ICU nurse in James's. They had 5 ICU admissions the other day and were showing 5 suspected cases in ICU in the HSE report. Only 1 was actually suspected, others were in ICU for non covid reasons. But come reporting time HSE request how many swabs have you outstanding, they say 5, its 5 suspected cases until swab says otherwise.

Non covid patients are being swabbed and if the result is outstanding then for HSE reporting they are suspected until swab says otherwise

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Local lockdowns are to protect the wider economy and is what we face for at least another 12 months. If we get it right though, most of us should be able to live relatively normally for 90% of the time