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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #7442
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    andrew1977 wrote: »
    We were planned to go back to the office on Monday after working from home since March .
    Thankfully the management have seen sense and pulled the plug on it, remain working from time until end of September and will be reviewed then .

    Replace office with school in that sentence and read again.
    Or replace office with with Pub.
    You start to see a pattern and not a good one.


  • #7443
    coastwatch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    gipi wrote: »
    That payment is only now being made available to workers in direct provision centres - announced today at the update briefing

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/75e06-briefing-on-the-governments-response-to-covid-19-thursday-6th-august-2020/

    Well spotted, not sure why workers living in direct provision were not previously covered by covid illness benefit payment, but good that there seems to have been a swift response to the evolving situation in meat and food production plants.


  • #7444
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    political analyst wrote: »
    This article was published on 17 July.

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/if-we-hit-100-covid-cases-per-day-were-going-back-to-phase-2-what-would-that-look-like-again-39376043.html?fbclid=IwAR3JkMeQB_15-BvtCqmTJgheUT1H001rlYyVQeRiWw8H6HSPA9Y8bSKB7rQ



    If our government doesn't want the country to go back to Phase 2 then how is letting US tourists visit here helpful to our economy?

    Why will our government not ban flights from the US? Is it fear of antagonising the Donald?

    Really can't see this happening, I think the population would literally go mad if another lockdown of this type was enforced so soon after the first.I couldn't take it. We will likely be at 100 daily cases in a fortnight , there will be nationwide non compliance. The government can and need to find other ways around suppressing exponential growth without another lockdown.


  • #7445
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    Exactly, you see these idiots running up to people without masks screaming at them (taking off their mask to do so ....) slobbering and spitting about 100000000000000000000 individual covid viruses (if they have it....)

    Some people are f*cking loving this sh*t, it finally gives their lives some importance, have you seen the COVID 19 COMPLIANCE OFFICER high vis vest ?

    Imagine the dangerous dangerous little Hitler that would want to have that job ?

    Type of **** that failed at the police exams, failed at being a bouncer ... and until now was working in Donaghmede shopping center as a bored security guard.

    Nice rant but is still meaningless.


  • #7446
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Really can't see this happening, I think the population would literally go mad if another lockdown of this type was enforced so soon after the first.I couldn't take it. We will likely be at 100 daily cases in a fortnight , there will be nationwide non compliance. The government can and need to find other ways around suppressing exponential growth without another lockdown.

    Not to mention the economic carnage. I doubt more rounds of €350 per week for up to a million workers plus everything else has been seriously budgeted for and factored in.
    May see local limitations but not like end March onwards. The economy just can’t take it


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  • #7447
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    It's funny, posts that accuse others of being hysterical, often then descend into hysterical shrieking themselves. Be careful, it must be infectious..


  • #7448
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,861 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    political analyst wrote: »
    This article was published on 17 July.

    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/if-we-hit-100-covid-cases-per-day-were-going-back-to-phase-2-what-would-that-look-like-again-39376043.html?fbclid=IwAR3JkMeQB_15-BvtCqmTJgheUT1H001rlYyVQeRiWw8H6HSPA9Y8bSKB7rQ



    If our government doesn't want the country to go back to Phase 2 then how is letting US tourists visit here helpful to our economy?

    Why will our government not ban flights from the US? Is it fear of antagonising the Donald?

    It’s politics rather than financial... if you turned around and banned people from the US traveling here, you’d risk the wrath of Donald, US multinationals as well as others.


  • #7449
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Really can't see this happening, I think the population would literally go mad if another lockdown of this type was enforced so soon after the first.I couldn't take it. We will likely be at 100 daily cases in a fortnight , there will be nationwide non compliance. The government can and need to find other ways around suppressing exponential growth without another lockdown.

    It all depends on who is affected by the growth. Our elderly and vulnerable are doing an excellent job of protecting themselves. A pity that those dependent in the nursing/care homes couldn't have had the same protection.


  • #7450
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    Exactly, you see these idiots running up to people without masks screaming at them (taking off their mask to do so ....) slobbering and spitting about 100000000000000000000 individual covid viruses (if they have it....)
    Did you then roundhouse kick said idiot out the window, before eloping with the extremely grateful maskless ladies to your yacht made of chocolate and diamonds?


  • #7451
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Complacency is creeping in now, and TBH I would have been out of there in a flash. Sorry.

    He makes a point about not wearing masks in restaurants. How do you suggest eating and drinking with one on?

    Do you normally go to restaurants with a mask and eat and drink with it on? Or, do you just go, wear a mask and eat and drink nothing?

    I'm curious...


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  • #7452
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    polesheep wrote: »
    It all depends on who is affected by the growth. Our elderly and vulnerable are doing an excellent job of protecting themselves. A pity that those dependent in the nursing/care homes couldn't have had the same protection.

    Elderly people are doing great with personal responsibility alright- which goes to show you can have all the inane nannying and rules in the world but at the end of the day it’s personal actions that matter with personal health


  • #7453
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Strumms wrote: »
    It’s politics rather than financial... if you turned around and banned people from the US traveling here, you’d risk the wrath of Donald, US multinationals as well as others.

    American exceptionalism in a nutshell.
    "We have the greatest virus spread the world has every seen. It's tremendous"
    When someone doesn't want to listen they won't

    https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1246222449386991616?s=20


  • #7454
    stevek93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


    andrew1977 wrote: »
    We were planned to go back to the office on Monday after working from home since March .
    Thankfully the management have seen sense and pulled the plug on it, remain working from home until end of September and will be reviewed then .

    I am being asked to come back and the job is going on the line of “the office is your place of work” and not your house, and said “the government is recommending people to come back to their place of work”. Nonsense who works from home stays continuing to work at home says our government from what I am hearing. The manager also did say if there is any concern of coming back there is feck all they can do about it and stay at home cause I did mention I live with someone who is very high risk and they don’t want having to deal with me bringing the virus home if was to catch it at work.

    I suppose you can talk to your employer about your concerns if they ask for you to come back they should be understanding.


  • #7455
    little bess
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭little bess


    polesheep wrote: »
    It all depends on who is affected by the growth. Our elderly and vulnerable are doing an excellent job of protecting themselves. A pity that those dependent in the nursing/care homes couldn't have had the same protection.

    If this gets into nursing homes like it did before it will be a travesty.


  • #7456
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Midway services outside Port Laoise last Friday, out of 60ish people I was 1 of only 3 wearing a mask

    I was there last Friday. I’d say about 75% wearing. In any case that’s not where the issue has arisen


  • #7457
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Wow 25K fine. Arrivals from abroad could make things worse.
    Would have thought it.
    How many pints does the average American drink.....2?
    Let one of us in we'll drink 7.
    Someone needs to explain the math to the vintners.
    They'd call for mandatory testing in the morning.

    https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1291461477128441864?s=20


  • #7458
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    It's funny, posts that accuse others of being hysterical, often then descend into hysterical shrieking themselves. Be careful, it must be infectious..

    I find the people that are the least realistic go that way. I have seen it with a couple of aquaintances.

    Deniers about the whole thing at the start "Its only a flu" and absolutely hysterical about mask wearing today.

    If you face up at whats coming and PREPARE mentally, no such hysteria.


  • #7459
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,874 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    stevek93 wrote: »
    I am being asked to come back and the job is going on the line of “the office is your place of work” and not your house, and said “the government is recommending people to come back to their place of work”. Nonsense who works from home stays continuing to work at home says our government from what I am hearing. The manager also did say if there is any concern of coming back there is feck all they can do about it and stay at home cause I did mention I live with someone who is very high risk and they don’t want having to deal with me bringing the virus home if was to catch it at work.

    I suppose you can talk to your employer about your concerns if they ask for you to come back they should be understanding.

    Depends and you would hope employers would be pragmatic if the work can be done from home but I have heard a few HR experts on radio talk about this and it appears employers are perfectly entitled to instruct you to work from the office if that’s what your contract states.
    I’d be wary of “causing trouble” if it were me as you could be easily marking your own cards in these kinds of scenarios. You’ll get the opposite with plenty of workers “dying to get back” and making a virtue of it to employers


  • #7460
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Wow 25K fine. Arrivals from abroad could make things worse.
    Would have thought it.
    How many pints does the average American drink.....2?
    Let one of us in we'll drink 7.
    Someone needs to explain the math to the vintners.
    They'd call for mandatory testing in the morning.

    https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1291461477128441864?s=20

    Health of the nation should trump all rights of everyone
    If Germany can do it then why can't we?
    We haven't seen any significant issue with people arriving here but is it just a matter of time
    The meat factories have shown how easy it is to spread - should spur the government to actually do something now


  • #7461
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    stevek93 wrote: »
    I am being asked to come back and the job is going on the line of “the office is your place of work” and not your house, and said “the government is recommending people to come back to their place of work”. Nonsense who works from home stays continuing to work at home says our government from what I am hearing. The manager also did say if there is any concern of coming back there is feck all they can do about it and stay at home cause I did mention I live with someone who is very high risk and they don’t want having to deal with me bringing the virus home if was to catch it at work.

    I suppose you can talk to your employer about your concerns if they ask for you to come back they should be understanding.

    Any company worth their salt with employees who can work remotely are saying "we are encouraging you not to come back " or "only come back if you feel comfortable"


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  • #7462
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Any company worth their salt with employees who can work remotely are saying "we are encouraging you not to come back " or "only come back if you feel comfortable"

    Not only that but any employer has a duty of care to the safety of it's employees
    If any company forces it's employees to return to the office when there is no need and as a result an employee catches it (from the office) and dies then they could be in a lot of trouble. Google have implemented a WFH til next year regardless what happens in the near future


  • #7463
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Didn't think I'd use random song that came on to make my point.
    Could be a new advert for zerocovid.
    As much as I don't like a lobby for alcohol if it helps get zero covid as a policy
    then so be it.


    The French drink wine, the English tea.
    The Yankee drinks his hot black coffee.
    The child drinks milk nine times a day.
    The Scotsman sips his whiskey toddy.
    You can keep you wine and keep your tea!
    My curse on him that brings me coffee!
    I'll drink porter, if I may.
    It makes me feel content and happy.
    Porter quaffed down with a laugh.
    The gentry have their aching livers.
    Water is all right in tea,
    For fish, and things that swim in rivers.
    The poor man and the beggar, too,
    The poet in the corner thinking.
    If they'd money enough to spend,
    It's pints of porter they'd be drinking    .


  • #7464
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,861 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    stevek93 wrote: »
    I am being asked to come back and the job is going on the line of “the office is your place of work” and not your house, and said “the government is recommending people to come back to their place of work”. Nonsense who works from home stays continuing to work at home says our government from what I am hearing. The manager also did say if there is any concern of coming back there is feck all they can do about it and stay at home cause I did mention I live with someone who is very high risk and they don’t want having to deal with me bringing the virus home if was to catch it at work.

    I suppose you can talk to your employer about your concerns if they ask for you to come back they should be understanding.

    Might be a case where you need to try and educate them.

    Suggest a ‘trial’ over say a three week period...

    Monday :

    If you work 9-5 as an example, have your day scheduled with checkpoints ...

    9.00 Clock in / check and respond to email

    9.25 AM Team meeting - via webinar

    9.45 begin Logistics Report for previous week

    10.30 Logistic Report filed on Sharepoint

    10.30 Break

    —————

    10.45 email

    11.00 Transport conference call

    11.45 financial report ( previous week)

    13.00 Lunch
    ————

    14.00 pm team meeting - webinar

    14.20 customer reviews

    15.00 maintence reports

    15.40 break

    15.55 email

    16.05 end of day report

    16.30 end of day webinar

    16.50 email / AOB

    17.00 electronic sign out / clock out

    When each individual task is completed, the employee just uses software on share point to confirm done, time stamped and with comments etc. so management and or colleagues can see remotely what exactly is complete and when.


  • #7465
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Odd that Melbourne has a similar population to Ireland and despite the relatively similar positivity rates dozens ofpeople have died there over the last few days vs basically none hre.

    Those that died mostly old people probably got infected weeks ago due to the lag effect, maybe we should revisit your post in a 2-3 weeks and see if you spoke too soon.


  • #7466
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Dickheads.

    "Ah sure it's the reality,
    What could we have done,
    when they are working on top of each other"

    Maybe don't?

    https://twitter.com/eoinmauricedaly/status/1291478750492864514?s=20


  • #7467
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,861 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Dickheads.

    "Ah sure it's the reality,
    What could we have done,
    when they are working on top of each other"

    Maybe don't?

    https://twitter.com/eoinmauricedaly/status/1291478750492864514?s=20

    I’d have loved if somebody when this was all kicking off, in government said... “you know what, let’s invest 30 million, set up a state PPE manufacturing company in some disused industrial unit.... manufacturing masks, hazsuits, sanitizer etc... the priority of distribution is...

    Food plants / food manufacturing

    Healthcare / hospitals

    In person audits for compliance to be carried out bi monthly.. fines, prosecution and shut down all options for non compliance.


  • #7468
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Dickheads.

    "Ah sure it's the reality,
    What could we have done,
    when they are working on top of each other"

    Maybe don't?

    https://twitter.com/eoinmauricedaly/status/1291478750492864514?s=20

    Yeah look, yeah look, yeah look - shure tis grand
    Would make you wonder about these local councillors et all


  • #7469
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    They'll have to conduct investigations into these meat factories. In one sense it's the perfect guinea pig for measuring spread, as I assume workers stand in one spot all the time mostly.

    Noisy enviroment, lots of shouting etc also possible cold ventilation blower particles around.

    Who knows but seems meat processing plants are very susceptible in other parts of the world too.


  • #7470
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,157 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Noisy enviroment, lots of shouting etc also possible cold ventilation blower particles around.

    Who knows but seems meat processing plants are very susceptible in other parts of the world too.

    This isn't new news - been going on around the world for the past few months
    Should have been on top of this from the get go checking everything


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  • #7471
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    fritzelly wrote: »
    This isn't new news - been going on around the world for the past few months
    Should have been on top of this from the get go checking everything

    Your man sounded like a trump supporter.

    "It's probably not real anyway,
    sure nobody died YET"

    Given the fact they were advertising to replace people out sick,
    shows you were his mind was..


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