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  • #7502
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,073 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    GT89 wrote: »
    No masks in Sweden and society has not collapsed like some suggested it would. If no masks is good enough for Sweden then it should be good enough for Ireland.

    Masks in Ireland though...

    You are free to go there with your society collapsing strawman.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #7503
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No: I don't care enough
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    8

    Which should be plenty for people to take it seriously. Nevermind that people who are infected, even healthy people, even athletes, suffer crippling lung and heart and even brain issues after infection.


  • #7504
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Overheal wrote: »
    Because nobody has to be told to wash their hands and most of not all employers, even yours, require you to wash your hands. There isn’t a range of covidiots out there saying (fortunately) that washing your hands does nothing. They’re washing their hands, so leaders fortunately have not had to step in.

    But you continue to refuse to wear a mask to protect others. You’ve said categorically earlier in this thread you don’t care about infecting other people. So the leadership should need to step in if selfish people like you will hide behind “it’s not the rules” so you can continue to endanger others.

    It is reccomded to wash your hands in work not required. Only sector I'm aware where hand washing is required is food handling and medical sectors.


  • #7505
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Overheal wrote: »
    Because nobody has to be told to wash their hands and most of not all employers, even yours, require you to wash your hands. There isn’t a range of covidiots out there saying (fortunately) that washing your hands does nothing. They’re washing their hands, so leaders fortunately have not had to step in.

    But you continue to refuse to wear a mask to protect others. You’ve said categorically earlier in this thread you don’t care about infecting other people. So the leadership should need to step in if selfish people like you will hide behind “it’s not the rules” so you can continue to endanger others.

    The leadership, leave the country, compliance, do as your told, wear a mask, trust the government. A very tolerant Neo-Marxist society you're creating.


  • #7506
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No: I don't care enough
    GT89 wrote: »
    It is reccomded to wash your hands in work not required. Only sector I'm aware where hand washing is required is food handling and medical sectors.

    Are you not washing your hands then because some manager or sign hasn’t told you?


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  • #7507
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    The leadership, leave the country, compliance, do as your told, wear a mask, trust the government. A very tolerant Neo-Marxist society you're creating.

    Sounds like you have overdosed on the internet. Go out for some fresh air. Mask or no mask, your choice.


  • #7508
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Masks in Ireland though...

    You are free to go there with your society collapsing strawman.

    Why should we. Is freedom of expression or dissenting opinion not allowed in the Neo-Marxist society where Facebook and Twitter are your overlords?
    "The Leadership" give me a break.


  • #7509
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,760 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Yes: homemade
    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    That's not true. There have been spikes and increases in cases since masks have been mandatory. It is a simple statement of face that there is no direct correlation btw masks and a reductions in the number of cases.

    Yes, it is true. Catalunya was the first place to introduce it after outbreaks in Lleida.

    As you know, I live there. I'm a tad more clued in that you.


  • #7510
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    Why should we. Is freedom of expression or dissenting opinion not allowed in the Neo-Marxist society where Facebook and Twitter are your overlords?
    "The Leadership" give me a break.

    Dissenting opinion is great but things still have to make sense. This antimask thing is one of the most ignorant crusades I have ever seen. Tragic.


  • #7511
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Yes: to protect myself and others
    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    Why should we. Is freedom of expression or dissenting opinion not allowed in the Neo-Marxist society where Facebook and Twitter are your overlords?
    "The Leadership" give me a break.
    You have literally told me to stop posting in here, yet it's you giving out about "freedom of expression" :rolleyes:


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  • #7512
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,239 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    Overheal wrote: »
    Are you not washing your hands then because some manager or sign hasn’t told you?

    More likely, going by his attitude to masks and admitted disregard for the health of others, he'd stop washing his hands if told to wash them.


  • #7513
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Yes: valved
    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    Why should we. Is freedom of expression or dissenting opinion not allowed in the Neo-Marxist society where Facebook and Twitter are your overlords?
    "The Leadership" give me a break.

    No comment

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  • #7514
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,073 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    Why should we. Is freedom of expression or dissenting opinion not allowed in the Neo-Marxist society where Facebook and Twitter are your overlords?
    "The Leadership" give me a break.

    You can dissent in your opinions but not in your compliance with laws on public safety - whether masks, drink driving laws, NCT, driving without a licence or smoking in public places.

    Even John Stuart Mill would have agreed that the state has such legitimate authority to protect citizens from the risky behaviour of others.

    Also in a free society we can describe your behaviour as selfish and reckless.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #7515
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Yes: surgical
    GT89 wrote: »
    It is reccomded to wash your hands in work not required. Only sector I'm aware where hand washing is required is food handling and medical sectors.

    Oh right you `re not even particularly bothered about washing your hands now. You really are the gift that keeps on giving.


  • #7516
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    i_surge wrote: »
    Nope

    Excellent point well made


  • #7517
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    Yes, it is true. Catalunya was the first place to introduce it after outbreaks in Lleida.

    As you know, I live there. I'm a tad more clued in that you.

    Masks were introduced because people were dying not because of cases. Please tell me your not one of those people who lives in Barcelona and thinks they own the place?


  • #7518
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Overheal wrote: »
    Are you not washing your hands then because some manager or sign hasn’t told you?

    I wash my hands after visting the toilet same as always


  • #7519
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No: I don't care enough
    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    Masks were introduced because people were dying not because of cases. Please tell me your not one of those people who lives in Barcelona and thinks they own the place?

    Masks would have been introduced everywhere in January/February except for the global shortage of PPE for healthcare workers.


  • #7520
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,239 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    Why should we. Is freedom of expression or dissenting opinion not allowed in the Neo-Marxist society where Facebook and Twitter are your overlords?
    "The Leadership" give me a break.

    Give us a break perhaps. Not being on Twitter or Facebook and knowing we aren't anything like a Neo-Marxist state I still can say you have to abide by the rules of the society you are a part of until you do something to change them or live in a society that agrees with al, your views.


  • #7521
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Excellent point well made

    I know, thanks. Succinct and accurate, I felt. :)


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  • #7522
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Overheal wrote: »
    Masks would have been introduced everywhere in January/February except for the global shortage of PPE for healthcare workers.

    Which turned out to be a tragic error.

    The countries that didn't spread misinformation about masks and encouraged people that homemade was better than nothing, fared better so far.


  • #7523
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    GT89 wrote: »
    How many of those had no underlying conditions?

    You seem to know it all, you tell me.


  • #7524
    v638sg7k1a92bx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    You have literally told me to stop posting in here, yet it's you giving out about "freedom of expression" :rolleyes:

    Never told you to stop posting here but I will tell you to stop using the word "literally"


  • #7525
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    i_surge wrote: »
    Which turned out to be a tragic error.

    The countries that didn't spread misinformation about masks and encouraged people that homemade was better than nothing, fared better so far.

    They were mandatory in China where this started


  • #7526
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    GT89 wrote: »
    They were mandatory in China where this started

    You are sinking your own ship with that point :pac:


  • #7527
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    GT89 wrote: »
    It is reccomded to wash your hands in work not required. Only sector I'm aware where hand washing is required is food handling and medical sectors.

    It's a requirement in every sector after you use the bathroom.


  • #7528
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No: I don't care enough
    i_surge wrote: »
    Which turned out to be a tragic error.

    The countries that didn't spread misinformation about masks and encouraged people that homemade was better than nothing, fared better so far.

    Yep. The feared scenario was hoarding and price hiking (which happened anyway, a portion of which was prosecuted) and PPE was even raided from hospitals. Health practictioners were wearing trash bags and there were the huge drives in the maker communities to make face shields as a less bad alternative to nothing. Even in June PPE shortages were still being talked about and by July i was shocked to see stores start offering surgical masks to Joe Public when at one point they were selling for a few dollars apiece.


  • #7529
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Yes: to protect myself and others
    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    Never told you to stop posting here but I will tell you to stop using the word "literally"
    Eh sorry, but this was literally your post I'm referring to;
    Kendrick Jolly Ibex wrote: »
    So go to reddit and don't post here.


  • #7530
    i_surge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭i_surge


    Overheal wrote: »
    Yep. The feared scenario was hoarding and price hiking (which happened anyway, a portion of which was prosecuted) and PPE was even raided from hospitals. Health practictioners were wearing trash bags and there were the huge drives in the maker communities to make face shields as a less bad alternative to nothing. Even in June PPE shortages were still being talked about and by July i was shocked to see stores start offering surgical masks to Joe Public when at one point they were selling for a few dollars apiece.

    What concerns me is the ubiquity of papery surgical masks which are fairly ****. Low standards abound.


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  • #7531
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Yes: to protect myself and others
    GT89 wrote: »
    They were mandatory in China where this started
    What's your point here? That masks started the virus?


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