Masks

John O.Groats · 05-08-2020 01:23AM

Yes: surgical

GT89 wrote: »

Telling you what to do if they can get you to wear a mask they can get to take a vaccine under the guist of public safety. The nazis told the jews it was gor their own safety too remember

So you are comparing the Irish government and health authorities to the Nazis? You can`t be serious.:rolleyes:

GT89 · 05-08-2020 01:26AM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

John O.Groats wrote: »

So you are comparing the Irish government to the Nazis? You can`t be serious.:rolleyes:

It's not the Irish govt. it's a globalist agenda coming rich and powerful people like George Soros and Bill Gates which the Irish govt. are just puppet on a string for

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 05-08-2020 01:28AM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

GT89 wrote: »

Telling you what to do if they can get you to wear a mask they can get to take a vaccine under the guist of public safety. The nazis told the jews it was gor their own safety too remember

“For your own safety” will be the new buzzwords when this vaccine is ready.

GT89 · 05-08-2020 01:29AM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

Hunky Monster wrote: »

“For your own safety” will be the new buzzwords when this vaccine is ready.

I will be trying my best to avoid it

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 05-08-2020 01:38AM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

“Flatten the curve” didn’t work.

They’ve tried “you wouldn’t want to kill your granny”

Next it’s 100% gonna be “for the greater good”

We’ve already accepted “the new normal”.

Complete control by govt and media.

MadYaker · 05-08-2020 02:27AM

Yes: surgical

Hunky Monster wrote: »

“Flatten the curve” didn’t work.

They’ve tried “you wouldn’t want to kill your granny”

Next it’s 100% gonna be “for the greater good”

We’ve already accepted “the new normal”.

Complete control by govt and media.

Yeah sure this virus isn’t even real. Donald Trump told me it’s all a big hoax!!

Overheal · 05-08-2020 02:31AM

No: I don't care enough

GT89 wrote: »

Nobody does that everytime they cough/sneeze into a mask. Why is a sleeve any different to mask?

Cough into my arm/sleeve. Like I always do cv19 or not

Do you constantly exhale into your sleeve also?

If not wear the mask, it's a coronavirus.

Overheal · 05-08-2020 02:32AM

No: I don't care enough

GT89 wrote: »

It's not the Irish govt. it's a globalist agenda coming rich and powerful people like George Soros and Bill Gates which the Irish govt. are just puppet on a string for

No conspiracy is too small for Soros to be micromanaging them all :rolleyes:

bodhrandude · 05-08-2020 03:23AM

Yes: surgical

GT89 wrote: »

Which can be stopped by coughing/sneezing into your sleeve. Viruses have been around since forever I never remember the need to wear dehumanising masks ever before in my lifetime. The masks are about control not saving people from a virus with a low mortality rate.

Like these kids in the Wall Movie.

Away With The Fairies · 05-08-2020 03:27AM

Yes: valved

GT89 wrote: »

Which can be stopped by coughing/sneezing into your sleeve. Viruses have been around since forever I never remember the need to wear dehumanising masks ever before in my lifetime. The masks are about control not saving people from a virus with a low mortality rate.

I'm really not happy wearing them either. To think I'm protecting you, why bother.

yosemitesam1 · 05-08-2020 06:36AM

Overheal wrote: »

You've been around this thread long enough to know better. The virus doesn't travel on it's own, it travels on water droplets 1000s of times larger than it is, which are indeed trapped by the masks.

You keep jumping around from indefensible position to indefensible position.

Is there a post anywhere with links to all the evidence that clearly shows masks work?

xhomelezz · 05-08-2020 07:01AM

Yes: valved

GT89 wrote: »

They don't protect against sh1t. Wearing a mask to stop a virus is like installing a chain link fence to stop flies.

GT89 wrote: »

Which can be stopped by coughing/sneezing into your sleeve. Viruses have been around since forever I never remember the need to wear dehumanising masks ever before in my lifetime. The masks are about control not saving people from a virus with a low mortality rate.

GT89 wrote: »

Nobody does that everytime they cough/sneeze into a mask. Why is a sleeve any different to mask?

Cough into my arm/sleeve. Like I always do cv19 or not

GT89 wrote: »

Telling you what to do if they can get you to wear a mask they can get to take a vaccine under the guist of public safety. The nazis told the jews it was gor their own safety too remember

GT89 wrote: »

It's not the Irish govt. it's a globalist agenda coming rich and powerful people like George Soros and Bill Gates which the Irish govt. are just puppet on a string for

:eek: I don't know what are you smoking, but clearly doesn't do you well. What a pile of bs.

Guess these might be interesting for you as well, plenty of inspiration to post more nonsense, enjoy

gmisk · 05-08-2020 08:01AM

GT89 wrote: »

It's not the Irish govt. it's a globalist agenda coming rich and powerful people like George Soros and Bill Gates which the Irish govt. are just puppet on a string for

And there we have it...gone full conspiracy theory.....it didn't take long.

Your next step is shouting at random people with GO'D and her gang of loons/"patriots"

timetogo1 · 05-08-2020 08:11AM

No: I don't care enough

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Is there a post anywhere with links to all the evidence that clearly shows masks work?

There was one post a couple of weeks ago with links to piles of papers of studies on them. They don't say masks are 100% effective obviously but there was stuff like how the radius is reduced and comparisons of wearing different types of masks and no masks etc.
Good luck finding it in this mess of a thread though, trying to find a post from yesterday would be hard enough. I can't even remember the posters name. Obviously not one of the conspiracy guys

odyssey06 · 05-08-2020 08:25AM

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Is there a post anywhere with links to all the evidence that clearly shows masks work?

When it comes to a virus for which we don't have a vaccine it is not possible to conduct controlled experiments involving masks such as having an infected person coughing sneezing speaking in a room with an uninfected person, and assess follow-on infection rates.
Nor for any of the other advice which has been issued.
So you are looking at studies which measure the amount of droplets produced through different coverings, and comparative studies of real world data from countries, US states and specific scenarios where masks were used versus not.

In Ireland, the rate of infection in health and care settings dropped dramatically in mid-April when the policy on more general use of masks changed.

This article summarises the evidence behind the change in advice in US re: masks.
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/41...-masks-prevent

In short:
Fewer droplets means less viral load meaning less chance of infection.
They don't have to stop every droplet emitted to make a difference.

mean gene · 05-08-2020 08:27AM

made compulsory 2 weeks ago then it was announced they are to be made compulsory next week jokeshop -worst government ive ever seen

Graham · 05-08-2020 08:40AM

GT89 wrote: »

They don't protect against sh1t. Wearing a mask to stop a virus is like installing a chain link fence to stop flies.

To contrast

there needs to be universal use of masks in enclosed spaces, more targeted finding of cases, testing, tracking and isolation as well as an effective and fair system of testing and isolating incoming travellers.

Source: Letter to the government signed by:

Professor Anthony Staines, Professor of Health systems at DCU
Dr Gabriel Scalley of Trinity College
Dr Tomás Ryan of Trinity College
Professor Sam McConkey of the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland
Professor Gerard Killeen of UCC

Living Off The Splash · 05-08-2020 08:42AM

Yes: homemade

Let's hope they have signs outside the shops.

No mask, No entry, No service.

and

someone to police it...... Not just Mary saying "OK I will let you in this time". The first bit of power that the downtrodden Mary has ever had in her life. She feels good.

jam_mac_jam · 05-08-2020 08:47AM

Yes: homemade

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

Let's hope they have signs outside the shops.

No mask, No entry, No service.

and

someone to police it...... Not just Mary saying "OK I will let you in this time". The first bit of power that the downtrodden Mary has ever had in her life. She feels good.

There will always be a few who won't comply but the vast majority of people will wear them once they are compulsory. I am seeing a huge increase in the number of people in shops wearing them.

Mr E · 05-08-2020 09:00AM

Mod: Lots of conspiracy theory sh*te here last night. I'll leave it here so everyone can have a good LOL, but let's stick to serious discussion please.

xhomelezz · 05-08-2020 09:05AM

Yes: valved

Link to the article on study how masks wearing helping us to stop touching faces. There's a link to the study itself at the end of article.

https://www.scimex.org/newsfeed/masks-may-help-us-stop-touching-our-faces

McGiver · 05-08-2020 09:05AM

No: I don't care enough

CalamariFritti wrote: »

No I am arguing against masks because we seem to have done pretty well without them and they seem a token gesture.

Now I will not make a connection there just yet because it wouldnt really make any sense - even when I don't like masks I'm not that anti biased - but it appears that cases started rising right after we made masks mandatory. Weird isn't it?

If I leave aside your ignoring of the overwhelming scientific evidence on mask efficacy, which is fatal flaw in your argument - We've done quite well (not in per capita death and case rates which are at the bottom of the EU league) by a very long strict economically and socially damaging lockdown.

So you are arguing for another lockdown essentially. Understood.

On the other hand you make a good argument for the requirement of more broader and perhaps even universal mask wearing. Masks in shops aren't good enough. There are many scenarios where they could be and probably will be mandated too. Thanks for your contribution.

ednwireland · 05-08-2020 09:08AM

No: other

mean gene wrote: »

made compulsory 2 weeks ago then it was announced they are to be made compulsory next week jokeshop -worst government ive ever seen

the real question is how do they make it compulsory when the dail isnt sitting for the next six weeks.

so same as mandatory masks 2 weeks ago and still no enforcement.

(actually very few not wearing them now in the snmall town i live in one guy in a spar/postoffice /off licence that i saw yesterday)

Boggles · 05-08-2020 09:17AM

ednwireland wrote: »

the real question is how do they make it compulsory when the dail isnt sitting for the next six weeks.

Temporary emergency legislation powers due to the pandemic.

gmisk · 05-08-2020 09:19AM

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

Let's hope they have signs outside the shops.

No mask, No entry, No service.

and

someone to police it...... Not just Mary saying "OK I will let you in this time". The first bit of power that the downtrodden Mary has ever had in her life. She feels good.

Mary will be onto Joe Duffy in a flash if she doesn't get in....

You just have to listen to the pregnant woman yesterday who couldn't barge her way into a fully booked restaurant to use their loos...she mentioned she was pregnant about 50 times....

harr · 05-08-2020 09:23AM

ednwireland wrote: »

the real question is how do they make it compulsory when the dail isnt sitting for the next six weeks.

so same as mandatory masks 2 weeks ago and still no enforcement.

(actually very few not wearing them now in the snmall town i live in one guy in a spar/postoffice /off licence that i saw yesterday)

The legal stuff all has been done it was the same time frame on public transport it takes a couple of weeks to iron out the legal stuff but that was done before the dail finished up.
The government recommended masks two weeks ago now from Monday all retail must Enforce the mandatory wearing of face coverings as its legally enforceable from Monday’s the 10th

screamer · 05-08-2020 09:25AM

Yes: to protect others

I’ll be very happy to see no one allowed into shops without a mask. Some of the replies on this thread show that people do 0 research and just jump to conclusions and ranting absolute nonsense. I’ll be wearing my mask as usual to protect me.
I don’t see the big deal at all, like in a swimming pool you have to wear a hat, that’s the rule no exceptions. This refusal to wear a mask just seems like stubbornness for the sake of it.

Jim_Hodge · 05-08-2020 09:27AM

Yes: homemade

ednwireland wrote: »

the real question is how do they make it compulsory when the dail isnt sitting for the next six weeks.

so same as mandatory masks 2 weeks ago and still no enforcement.

(actually very few not wearing them now in the snmall town i live in one guy in a spar/postoffice /off licence that i saw yesterday)

The Dail doesn't have to be sitting for it to be legalised.

Dakota Dan · 05-08-2020 09:36AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Tinfoil ones, on the other hand...

Good man, take a bow.

05-08-2020 09:42AM

Living Off The Splash wrote: »

No mask, No entry, No service.

Saw a family in a shop yesterday - 2 parents and 3 teenage boys, all except the oldest boy - looked about 19, wearing face coverings. Thought it was odd. It was only when I overheard this boys interaction with is mother that I understood he likely had Autism or another severe learning disability. No entry under any circumstances? Even if he had not been in the fortunate situation of having both parents or siblings and a parent was sole carer?

Also, based on being in multiple stores Galway city, Galway county and Mayo over the past week, there is easily 80% +use of face coverings.

Also, if you are not wearing a medical grade mask, in the correct manner, it is more appropriate to say you have a face covering rather than a mask as it does not afford anything like the same degree of protection for the wearer or the public.

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