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  • #7232
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,237 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    Darc19 wrote: »
    Yes. The official name is a "face covering"

    A plastic shield is a face covering.

    Not according to many countries. Have you anything showing a visor qualifies here, as I'd much prefer to wear my visor than any if my masks?

    A shield or visor is not the same thing as a face covering by any definition I can find.


  • #7233
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,380 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Yes: homemade
    I find the visor much better. I don't keep poking and adjusting it like I do the mask.


  • #7234
    Collie D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    No: I don't care enough
    Was this not already mandatory?


  • #7235
    byhookorbycrook
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Yes: to protect myself and others
    spurious wrote: »
    I find the visor much better. I don't keep poking and adjusting it like I do the mask.

    But they aren’t effective as protection , on their own. If you wear the visor over the mask, you won’t be as likely to touch the mask !


  • #7236
    Not in Kansas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭Not in Kansas


    Yes: valved
    spurious wrote: »
    I find the visor much better. I don't keep poking and adjusting it like I do the mask.

    Better for you. Not for anyone you may come into contact with. They are intended to be worn in addition to, not instead of masks.


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  • #7237
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Yes: valved
    spurious wrote: »
    I find the visor much better. I don't keep poking and adjusting it like I do the mask.

    Face mask is there to limit spread of infections, that's why should sit properly on your face, to limit escaping droplets as you breathe. You can imagine face shield on it's own won't be anywhere close to be as effective as a face mask.


  • #7238
    faceman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,673 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Face visors aren’t permitted in some countries


  • #7239
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,589 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Yes: homemade
    Franklin Deep Prisoner wrote: »
    Face shields are absolutely useless on their own.

    Have you a link for that?


  • #7240
    Ten of Swords
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,472 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Threads merged

    Moderator: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgender, Vegan & Vegetarian

    Category Moderator: Social & Fun



  • #7241
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    Not in Kansas wrote: »
    Better for you. Not for anyone you may come into contact with. They are intended to be worn in addition to, not instead of masks.

    Actually no, they're not better for you.

    A user here posted a link a few weeks ago about an outbreak in Switzerland where people who wore masks didn't get infected but those that wore visors got infected. So seems like masks provide some protection.


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  • #7242
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,071 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    TaxiDriver2008 wrote: »
    I know but I get dizzy with masks .Ive tried and start sweating and not good.If shield passes it might help

    There is no respiratory reason why you should react like that.

    Try it outside the shop. Somewhere you are in control and can sit and get used to it eg garden or park.
    I find if I put mask on leaving house and walk to corner shop by the time I get there I barely notice it anymore.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #7243
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Yes: valved
    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Have you a link for that?

    https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/07/face-shield-instead-mask


  • #7244
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,590 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Collie D wrote: »
    Was this not already mandatory?
    Seemingly not, it definitely wasn't being enforced in shops


  • #7245
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Have you a link for that?

    Several...

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/18/face-visors-may-protect-wearer-but-not-other-people-against-covid-19

    https://www.insider.com/face-shields-did-not-protect-people-from-coronavirus-swiss-outbreak-2020-7

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8335707/Face-visors-NOT-stop-infected-patients-spreading-coronavirus-public-health-expert-warns.html

    http://www.pharmafile.com/news/554149/face-shields-did-not-protect-people-covid-19-outbreak-switzerland-masks-did-according-he

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/08/01/hairdressers-could-transmitting-covid-result-inadequate-official/

    Remember: The purpose of a face mask is to protect other people from the wearer, not the wearer from everyone else.


  • #7246
    el Fenomeno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    What's the deal with this not kicking in until 10th August - why wait almost a week?


  • #7247
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    el Fenomeno wrote: »
    What's the deal with this not kicking in until 10th August - why wait almost a week?

    One assumes to pass a law requiring them.


  • #7248
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/face_coverings_during_covid19.html

    This had been up on the citizen info website since mid July


  • #7249
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    Yes: to protect others
    If you have the right kind of mask it will protect the wearer. They have gone up at least 5 to. 6 times the price they used to be, but peace of mind is worth it.


  • #7250
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    harr wrote: »
    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/face_coverings_during_covid19.html

    This had been up on the citizen info website since mid July

    Aye, the new laws are still outstanding


  • #7251
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    screamer wrote: »
    If you have the right kind of mask it will protect the wearer. They have gone up at least 5 to. 6 times the price they used to be, but peace of mind is worth it.

    They don't protect against sh1t. Wearing a mask to stop a virus is like installing a chain link fence to stop flies.


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  • #7252
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No: I don't care enough
    GT89 wrote: »
    They don't protect against sh1t. Wearing a mask to stop a virus is like installing a chain link fence to stop flies.

    You've been around this thread long enough to know better. The virus doesn't travel on it's own, it travels on water droplets 1000s of times larger than it is, which are indeed trapped by the masks.

    You keep jumping around from indefensible position to indefensible position.


  • #7253
    Seanergy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved
    GT89 wrote: »
    They don't protect against sh1t. Wearing a mask to stop a virus is like installing a chain link fence to stop flies.

    You need to be a little more specific about the type of mask your referring to, see the way Tsap does it?
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Saying that a mask made of kitchen roll or toilet roll or even a silk scarf, to combat a virus, is the equivalent of saying that a barbed wire fence will stop a mosquito, whether it is going in or going out.

    Cop on.


  • #7254
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Overheal wrote: »
    You've been around this thread long enough to know better. The virus doesn't travel on it's own, it travels on water droplets 1000s of times larger than it is, which are indeed trapped by the masks.

    You keep jumping around from indefensible position to indefensible position.

    Which can be stopped by coughing/sneezing into your sleeve. Viruses have been around since forever I never remember the need to wear dehumanising masks ever before in my lifetime. The masks are about control not saving people from a virus with a low mortality rate.


  • #7255
    Seanergy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved
    Classic case of being limited by NPHET/HSE advice. WHO cites speaking as a form of transmission, how you going to solve that one, talk into your sleeve?


  • #7256
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Seanergy wrote: »
    Classic case of being limited by NPHET/HSE advice. WHO cites speaking as a form of transmission, how you going to solve that one, talk into your sleeve?

    Well if that's the case then wear the mask at home when your speaking to family members. They're the people most at risk surely if you follow your logic?


  • #7257
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No: I don't care enough
    GT89 wrote: »
    Which can be stopped by coughing/sneezing into your sleeve. Viruses have been around since forever I never remember the need to wear dehumanising masks ever before in my lifetime. The masks are about control not saving people from a virus with a low mortality rate.

    You're trying to equate this to a rhinovirus or influenza virus. Don't. It's a coronavirus, so was SARS. It transmits on your breathed vapors at all times, it's not just a matter of coughs and sneezes.


  • #7258
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Yes: surgical
    GT89 wrote: »
    Which can be stopped by coughing/sneezing into your sleeve. Viruses have been around since forever I never remember the need to wear dehumanising masks ever before in my lifetime. The masks are about control not saving people from a virus with a low mortality rate.

    Control of what exactly? You are not making any sense.


  • #7259
    Seanergy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved
    GT89 wrote: »
    Which can be stopped by coughing/sneezing into your sleeve. Viruses have been around since forever I never remember the need to wear dehumanising masks ever before in my lifetime. The masks are about control not saving people from a virus with a low mortality rate.

    Stopped from going into the air or onto someone's face but it is all over your sleeve! What do you do with your sleeve afterwards, rip it off and dispose of it in a bin, spray disenfectant on it, wrap it in cling film until you get home and can put it in the washing machine?

    You've become a wet tissue, what have you done so far during this pandemic when you cough or sneeze into your sleeve?


  • #7260
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Seanergy wrote: »
    Stopped from going into the air or onto someone's face but it is all over your sleeve! What do you do with your sleeve afterwards, rip it off and dispose of it in a bin, spray disenfectant on it, wrap it in cling film until you get home and can put it in the washing machine?

    You've become a wet tissue, what have you done so far during this pandemic when you cough or sneeze into your sleeve?

    Nobody does that everytime they cough/sneeze into a mask. Why is a sleeve any different to mask?

    Cough into my arm/sleeve. Like I always do cv19 or not


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  • #7261
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Control of what exactly? You are not making any sense.

    Telling you what to do if they can get you to wear a mask they can get to take a vaccine under the guist of public safety. The nazis told the jews it was gor their own safety too remember


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