Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

ACitizenErased wrote: »

LATEST TESTING UPDATE - 72 HOURS

Tests conducted last 72 hours: 8142
Tests conducted last 7 days: 24352
Additional positive tests: 136 (99 Sunday and Monday)
Positivity Rate last 7 days: 1.3%

Looks like total carnage like predicted. I reckon we'll have high numbers to about mid August then it will be back to a phase 1 type scenario.

blowitupref wrote: »

40 to 50 a educated guess on the number of cases today?

I would say 30-40

pc7 wrote: »

Looking like a no

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1290669282288959489?s=21

Yeah it's not said it's a no directly but it is in a roundabout way. The thing to look for is when the new august 10 will be ? As in when will the next possible date to reopen be. Because when it was moved to August 10th it was said until at least then which give the government room to move.

fly_agaric wrote: »

Think that might be rewriting history a bit (?)
At least going by this website, there were people who were either less informed re likely impact of this disease on the country or just outright disbelieved the dire projections [if Covid was left go unchecked without public health controls].
They appeared to think the Dublin parade would not be cancelled and the pubs would not be closed down.
That doesn't even include the people who believed and still believe Ireland should plow onwards (some less productive economic units may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm personally willing to make!). They probably stay schtum in politce company but they are out there.

I'm sure there were plenty on boards at the time who wouldn't accept that parades were going to be cancelled and pub doors shut, but that's boards in action: this place has it's own logic and it's often divorced from reality.

Most sane and rational in real people in real life could see that it was inevitable that the parades etc, etc were going to get cancelled, it was another non-issue that the media were obsessed with for a period. I can remember the polite bemusement on every expert's face when they had to answer questions on the news or current affairs shows about whether they'd cancel things or not, as much to say, why are we focusing on this relatively small issue, instead of the imminent profound changes coming to all our lives?

It was another manifestion of the media's tunnel vision. Like the banging on about the fate of the leaving cert. Endless discussion about what was going to happen and then the outcome was entirely predictable. Or the green list, endless media time given over to supposed confusion created by the list, then the whole subject instantly vanished from the headlines overnight. Or even how the Barry Cowen story completely took over for a week, in the midst of all this far more significant situation. For a while RTÉ and elsewhere were more concerned with whether Dara Callery's feelings had been hurt than the actual pandemic. I don't know. I consume a lot of news, I value it and I think it's essential, but, sometimes, fck me, the news industry is as dumb as rocks.

pc7 wrote: »

Looking like a no

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1290669282288959489?s=21

Could mean they can reopen, but music is banned (esp. loud music) - wouldn't that be nice!

NPHET has advised that the Government take a "cautious approach" in relation to reopening. Just broke on RTE News Now

Arghus wrote: »

Anyways, after my billious anti media diatribe there: are we getting a briefing this evening?

No I don't think so.

Leo doing a bit of ass covering there, as is increasingly usual,

"NPHET has advised..." in other words don't blame me.

the pubs cannot open while we have increasing cases. that's just common sense.

Arghus wrote: »

I'm sure there were plenty on boards at the time who wouldn't accept that parades were going to be cancelled and pub doors shut, but that's boards in action: this place has it's own logic and it's often divorced from reality.

Can't argue with that (this place having its own logic). Just remembered responding to a few comments regarding it at the time & didn't all appear to be the usual (obvious) crank/troll/wind up merchant efforts.

froog wrote: »

the pubs cannot open while we have increasing cases. that's just common sense.

Logic, yes. But expect a backlash as people can be blind to trends while numbers are not too significant. It is all about trends right now, and they're going in the wrong direction. These things tend not to reverse unless there's further intervention or a fundamental change in behaviour.......and I think we'll all agree that the later is unlikely.

fly_agaric wrote: »

Can't argue with that (this place having its own logic). Just remembered responding to a few comments regarding it at the time & didn't all appear to be the usual (obvious) crank/troll/wind up merchant efforts.

I think there were probably a good few people on here who simply genuinely couldn't get their head around the magnitude of the upheaval that was on it's way. Everywhere shut? Pubs closed? Keeping 2 metres away from people?... Surely you're having a laugh!!

I don't blame them. I was a denialist my self for a good while. It was all media crap etc, etc, but after a certain point I knew this was no fcking joke and things were quickly going to get turned arse over tit no matter how I personally felt about it.

blowitupref wrote: »

Don't think it was obscuring it, we didn't have the big cluster outbreaks back then as now and naturally the positivity rate would jump up under those circumstances.

Of course it was obscuring it.

It we were back doing 4 times more proactive testing it would be no where near 1.3% today.