Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

spookwoman wrote: »

Yes I did and there are a few places now starting studies into the long term effects of the virus.

So you know full well that the worst conditions are in those that had the worst symptoms.
As to be expected for any viral infection - it's nothing exclusive to this virus
People can take months to recover from even the flu or many other viral infections - it's not some weird scenario that is only happening now.
Not even just viruses affect the brain - bacterial meningitis can be fatal

fritzelly wrote: »

So you know full well that the worst conditions are in those that had the worst symptoms.
As to be expected for any viral infection - it's nothing exclusive to this virus
People can take months to recover from even the flu or many other viral infections - it's not some weird scenario that is only happening now.

People can take months to recover from different virus's but do other virus's cause such a wide range of problems? As I said I'm not an expert on the virus and to be honest neither are you. You also cannot say "So you know full well that the worst conditions are in those that had the worst symptoms" because we don't know and that is why they are doing studies now.

spookwoman wrote: »

People can take months to recover from different virus's but do other virus's cause such a wide range of problems? As I said I'm not an expert on the virus and to be honest neither are you. You also cannot say "So you know full well that the worst conditions are in those that had the worst symptoms" because we don't know and that is why they are doing studies now.

Yes - viruses can cause all kinds of long term issues - been discussed at length in these threads.
It's the very nature of viruses that they are not good for your health and can cause permanent damage

Catching any kind of disease can have complications - a tic bite can cause Lyme disease, a bee sting can cause a severe allergic reaction, the list goes on
Catching a virus and having ongoing symptoms is not unusual at all

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Secondary deaths are a bigger concern to me, unfortunately the virus by its nature attacked the weakest regardless of age. Our government decided to react in a way that exasperated the effects. As I said yesterday I have a work colleague who will pass away soon because of a transplant that failed to happen, the cynic however in me will say at least he was spared a Covid death on his death certificate. Crass I know despite my post I am incredibly angry that he was not given the chance of life because of such a 'lethal virus'.

It has become a PC virus in my opinion.

Only a Covid death is tragic.

The cancellation of treatments for other conditions fell only short of manslaughter by those in charge, and may well have the same cost of life

fritzelly wrote: »

Did you?

Seriously this thread has become full of doom merchants linking to any old junk to pacify their need for the end of the world scenarios

There is literally just a few posters left who are in anyway sensible and reasonable and even they are being hounded out of it.

If you don't like what I post because oh I'm a doom monger then don't bother reading them. No one is forcing you to reading the, so put me on ignore so you don't waste my time or yours.

spookwoman wrote: »

If you don't like what I post because oh I'm a doom monger then don't bother reading them. No one is forcing you to reading the, so put me on ignore so you don't want my time or yours.

I like reading any links people post but then they have to be called out on it, or rather the publication in case, about the headline used.

As per the case for the Brain fog article you posted - sensational headlines used to draw readers attention. But when you drill down in to it it really isn't as bad as the headline makes out

So no I won't ignore anyone - never have - maybe the poster will post something of interest
It's not anything against you per se - lots of online media are doing the same thing. It gets clicks and revenue
Don't remember you posting anything that was utterly crazy
But if you do post something you do have to be willing to defend what you posted - too many crack pots posted some real junk during the life of these threads

spookwoman wrote: »

I don't make the up headlines so don't blame me.

Didn't say you do

spookwoman wrote: »

I don't make the up headlines so don't blame me.

You don't, but you do happen to find and post the most misery laden waffle ever seen seen since ww1

spookwoman wrote: »

German studies indicate long-term Covid-19 health issues posted Jul 30, 2020, 18:43
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/german-studies-indicate-long-term-covid-19-health-issues-1.4318036

That was already posted several days ago

Main points 50% already had known underlying health issues, the other 50% self reported being healthy
No clinical diagnosis was done on those reporting persistent conditions
Some had been hospitalised

The main take out of that was it was not a clinical study and over half were not very healthy to start with

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

You don't, but you do happen to find and post the most misery laden waffle ever seen seen since ww1

Mod: If that's the best you can do as a counter argument, take 48 hours away from the thread to reconsider your posting style.

fritzelly wrote: »

Studies are not done on people that are healthy - what is the point?

But you are completely bypassing my reply to the latest link you posted - confirmation bias comes to mind

That makes no sense why would you study for the possible effects on a "healthy" person. Surely if your are healthy then you are not suffering from any possible side effects of the virus or have the virus......
I gather if you are going to study for side effects (NOT A MEDICAL EXPERT) you follow proper guidelines for choosing a random section of the population that have or had the virus to see of if the side effects some claim to have are associated with the illness or if they develop side effects. Those guidelines would be set out by medical experts.

You are not exactly coming across as unbiased yourself by posting

fritzelly wrote: »

Did you?

Seriously this thread has become full of doom merchants linking to any old junk to pacify their need for the end of the world scenarios

There is literally just a few posters left who are in anyway sensible and reasonable and even they are being hounded out of it.

As i said before If you don't like what I post then ignore me, and that old junk was written up on the Jul. 31, 2020.

A fair number of public figures have had covid 19 in Ireland. All of them are back at work. Some even continued to work while infected. If they were experiencing on going issues we'd know about it. The same in the UK. One, Boris Johnson had a bad infection. He was back at work soon after with apparantly zero long term effects.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

A fair number of public figures have had covid 19 in Ireland. All of them are back at work. Some even continued to work while infected. If they were experiencing on going issues we'd know about it. The same in the UK. One, Boris Johnson had a bad infection. He was back at work soon after with apparantly zero long term effects.

True but you need a long time to see the long term effects.

The same with any vaccine, any vaccine testing is only happening on healthy people with no under lying conditions who've lead a healthy lifestyle, from what I understand about regulations on vaccine testing they can not infect people deliberately with Covid so it's impossible to run a real life test on this vaccine.

Ineedaname wrote: »

That's not true. Vaccine testing is done on a wide variety of people.

So we're exposing people with health conditions to the virus?

Nobody is being exposed to the covid so we can test it. There is no blind trial either, you can't give someone a placebo and deliberately expose them. The Nuremberg code put a stop to that.