Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

Hi ACE.

Yourself and Stephen are the main 'everything is under control' merchants on here. And at times have been very condescending and ratty with those who differ with you.

You are very knowledgeable but lack balance in your posts.

You said you lost your job to Covid a month ago. Now you work part time and are in college? I wouldn't mind being in my early 20s again but that fact puts your posts in a different light.

This is ageist. But when seeking a medical opinion I generally find an older GP has seen a lot more than a young one. If an animal has an unusual problem it's more likely an older vet will find a cure.

I don't think you have enough life experience to take pronouncements on whether pubs or schools will open seriously. I think your complete bias comes from the hubris of youth.

You have a lot of living to do before that undoubted intellect you have is balanced with experience.

What a horrible condescending post.

The two posters you've mentioned contribute very useful information to the thread. What do you contribute? **** all as far as I can see.

People like yourself will end up driving the aforementioned posters away from the thread and make it a much poorer thread as a result.

Get a life

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

Hi ACE.

Yourself and Stephen are the main 'everything is under control' merchants on here. And at times have been very condescending and ratty with those who differ with you.

You are very knowledgeable but lack balance in your posts.

You said you lost your job to Covid a month ago. Now you work part time and are in college? I wouldn't mind being in my early 20s again but that fact puts your posts in a different light.

This is ageist. But when seeking a medical opinion I generally find an older GP has seen a lot more than a young one. If an animal has an unusual problem it's more likely an older vet will find a cure.

I don't think you have enough life experience to take pronouncements on whether pubs or schools will open seriously. I think your complete bias comes from the hubris of youth.

You have a lot of living to do before that undoubted intellect you have is balanced with experience.

Oof, got me there. Who do you think you are speaking to someone like that? Come down off your high horse lad.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

The whole thread has become too personal and too much swiping at those who people don't agree with.

There doesn't seem to be any room for middle ground or reasoned discussion.

You're afraid to comment for fear a single phrase will be singled out for dissection and attack.

It's now a dip in and out, with perhaps an occasional comment, but no more reading through all contributions.

We're at a fork in the road stage right at this moment. Nobody can really say for sure what things will be like in a months time. I think some of the heat in here is as a result of that.

People are prepared to fight tooth and nail over the currently unknowable.

I've had more personal attacks against me in the past 24 hours on here than I have had in my whole life. Christ.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I've had more personal attacks against me in the past 24 hours on here than I have had in my whole life. Christ.

It's clearly a planned strategy.
Ignore them, they want you to react or to drive you out.

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Two people aged between 15 and 24 got it bad enough that they needed to be hospitalised if I'm reading that right

2 ways to look at it:
Optimistic view:
They could have been in hospital for an unrelated issue and been tested and proved positive.

Pessimistic view:
2/42 of that age range needed to be hospitalised as it was that severe. That's nearly 1/20 of that age range needing to be hospitalized. So the argument it doesn't really effect the younger age range seems incorrect.

It's quite hard to be positive about this pandemic in the wide scheme of things - how it's moving around the world, going and coming back, how other countries are having spikes etc - economic downturns, then there's the long-term health of people who catch it and survive, this is something we could feel the affects of for decades to come - in my opinion anything we can do to lessen the worst of it now is the most positive thing, until a safe vaccine is found.

Can we wait years before we travel abroad for holidays and will pubs survive another couple of months?

spookwoman wrote: »

I'm using the daily reports from Gov.ie for details.

The daily reports from gov.ie doesn't account for discharges. You need the HSE reports to get the discharges. As some hospitals only have 1 or 2 cases, you can actually see people been admitted to a hospital and being discharged the next day. There's a constant stream of admissions and discharges daily. It's not like hospitals are filling up fast.

spookwoman wrote: »

I used to look at them and they were all over the place with numbers.

the hse reports are about as accurate as it gets

I'm done with this thread too, not because of the EastEnders style bickering, that's actually quite funny.

It's because every time I click on it, it insists on playing Random Page Bingo.

WTF is that about?

Itssoeasy wrote: »

The sentiment is correct but seeing as you've been guilty of doing the exact thing you claim shouldn't happen it kind of loses it's impact. I've literally quoted the acting CMO and you're told me I'm sugar coating things and I'm wrong. So email the acting CMO and complain and tell him he's wrong.

I'm done here for a while and don't want an argument but I'm sorry I just checked three months of posts and I quoted you three times. I can't see my saying "sugar coating" about anything.

Sad days indeed.

Good luck and stay safe.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

The whole thread has become too personal and too much swiping at those who people don't agree with.

There doesn't seem to be any room for middle ground or reasoned discussion.

You're afraid to comment for fear a single phrase will be singled out for dissection and attack.

It's now a dip in and out, with perhaps an occasional comment, but no more reading through all contributions.

Absolutely, it’s an Internet forum. There’s going to be people with different outlooks on the pandemic and personally I believe there’s lots of potential for optimists and pessimists to have good healthy debate. Unfortunately we saw lots of personal attacks on the pessimists early on and now we’re seeing similar for the optimists.

It’s a shame as lots of the replies in the last 24 hrs from both sides could have been written a little less personally and without referring to posters’ history and it would have been a decent discussion.

The problem is that people cope different ways, some catastrophise while others seek out good news. All posts will have a slant or viewpoint depending on the poster. Just a pity really.

Wolf359f wrote: »

The daily reports from gov.ie doesn't account for discharges. You need the HSE reports to get the discharges. As some hospitals only have 1 or 2 cases, you can actually see people been admitted to a hospital and being discharged the next day. There's a constant stream of admissions and discharges daily. It's not like hospitals are filling up fast.

Yes, even though the numbers are very stable at the moment the daily reports can show a lot of movements from day to day, even if totals remain the exact same.

Boggles wrote: »

It's because every time I click on it, it insists on playing Random Page Bingo.

WTF is that about?

So it wasn't just me . I was wondering how I kept making the same mistake .

Wolf359f wrote: »

True and when we had higher numbers, it was always painful to watch the increase and then breathe a sigh of relief come Tuesday when there was large numbers of discharges.

With the bank holiday weekend, I wonder if the testing figures will be updated Monday or Tuesday and likewise hospital discharges be delayed till Wednesday?
I'm not sure how it works in hospitals with bank holidays

As far as i remember there were very little discharges last bank holiday until the tuesday as you suggest