Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

Atlantic Dawn · 02-08-2020 06:39PM

xabi wrote: »

And then what?

Wait in our caves to die off as a species waiting for a vaccine which may never ever happen :pac:

namloc1980 · 02-08-2020 06:39PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Unprofessional to spout what he expects re cases, what if he says 100 tomorrow and its 20

Its up NPHET/HSE to verify and release figures

Tell us, what if he said that? World the world end or something?

Turtwig · 02-08-2020 06:39PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dr Glynn coming across as being quite relieved in the press release.
“The source of transmission for over 90% of cases reported today has been identified. This is a positive development in light of the number of cases reported over the past few days"

Understandable too. That said we are having growing cases with unknown origin. This is problematic because these cases usually only become known once an infected person becomes symptomatic. Cases that show no symptoms only get detected if they're part of a known cluster. It's quite possible there's a growing number of infections simmering under the surface that we are missing. The recent trend in community transmission is a concern.

Any mathematician out there know if randomised testing of the population could help detect and suppress these cases?

road_high · 02-08-2020 06:39PM

froog wrote: »

we need to go back to full lockdown for a few weeks at least to nip this in the bud.

Rubbish. What do you think is going to happen once that ends. We need to get a fcukin grip and start livibg with it. If you want zero risk you stay at home away from everyone and everything

ACitizenErased · 02-08-2020 06:40PM

I reckon the pubs will open to be honest

ceadaoin. · 02-08-2020 06:40PM

froog wrote: »

we need to go back to full lockdown for a few weeks at least to nip this in the bud.

And then as soon as you reopen again it will be the same situation after a few weeks. Once hospital numbers stay low and manageable thats all that matters. That was the point of lockdown, not eradication.

Plumbthedepths · 02-08-2020 06:40PM

froog wrote: »

we need to go back to full lockdown for a few weeks at least to nip this in the bud.

And then when we reopen you get a repeat as people mix again. Rinse and repeat until we destroy society and the economy. Good plan.

Atlantic Dawn · 02-08-2020 06:40PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I reckon the pubs will open to be honest

Perhaps the answer is a 9pm closing time for them, leave it like that for a month, see how things go.

Arghus · 02-08-2020 06:40PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Unprofessional to spout what he expects re cases, what if he says 100 tomorrow and its 20

Its up NPHET/HSE to verify and release figures

Obviously he's kept in the loop about all things related to tests and projections etc, etc. And you'd expect him to be, he is the minister for health.

We all expected figures within the 40-60 ball park tonight. The minister for health is obviously privy to more accurate information than us and gave a pretty accurate prediction based on the most up to date info he had, on a matter of public health, and he was right. I really fail to see the issue.

Plumbthedepths · 02-08-2020 06:41PM

froog wrote: »

we need to go back to full lockdown for a few weeks at least to nip this in the bud.

And then when we reopen you get a repeat as people mix again. Rinse and repeat until we destroy society and the economy. Good plan.

ChikiChiki · 02-08-2020 06:41PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

IMO, today has illustrated the publication of our COVID cases is pre viewed and pre determined by government.

Can we please have an honest day to day release of numbers and not this shambles?

If our Health Minister gets a pre look at numbers, be honest and tell us

All we want from this government is honesty and full disclosure

Is this a serious post, of course he gets a pre-look at the number.

froog · 02-08-2020 06:41PM

xabi wrote: »

And then what?

then when the figures stabilise we start opening up again. and we repeat this cycle until such time as we get a vaccine or a solid suite of therapeutic drugs. it's the only way to deal with this thing unfortunately.

Wild Field 1831 · 02-08-2020 06:42PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Well, Glynn seems pleases that 90% of cases can be linked to clusters. He was also the one who said contract tracing is working very well. Even when these numbers subside we'll still find new clusters. Apart from the messy government efforts to restore a level of normality some people will need to face the perhaps tougher challenge of living with this.

Today he's happier, yesterday he was concerned. What way will he feel tomorrow? He doesn't have a crystal ball to tell him who's spreading the virus to who presently.

Atlantic Dawn · 02-08-2020 06:42PM

froog wrote: »

then when the figures stabilise we start opening up again. and we repeat this cycle until such time as we get a vaccine or a solid suite of therapeutic drugs. it's the only way to deal with this thing unfortunately.

And how will the country finance this approach?

Boggles · 02-08-2020 06:43PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

The guy in the middle is like George Lee at a press conference.

Hasn't a clue what's going on or why he is even there.

froog · 02-08-2020 06:45PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And how will the country finance this approach?

we'll manage. the economy can deal better with a cycling approach of lockdowns, 2-4 weeks lockdown, 2-4 weeks mostly full reopening. the alternative is many more dead people.

ninebeanrows · 02-08-2020 06:45PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Is this a serious post, of course he gets a pre-look at the number.

It is the impression given off, let's have some honesty and stop the ****e.

We are in this together or not.

He simply trying to grab some headlines and lead the agenda

I dont like it

ninebeanrows · 02-08-2020 06:47PM

Using first dibs at public health data to try and drive the news agenda etc is to me unacceptable

ACitizenErased · 02-08-2020 06:47PM

froog wrote: »

we'll manage. the economy can deal better with a cycling approach of lockdowns, 2-4 weeks lockdown, 2-4 weeks mostly full reopening. the alternative is many more dead people.

You clearly don't have any economist experience

Boggles · 02-08-2020 06:47PM

Ohmeha wrote: »

7 averages for the past 3 weeks, if numbers start to drop during the week I'd be optimistic a hold is getting on these latest outbreaks, if numbers maintain at 40-50 then we are on the wrong trajectory

Day Month Date Cases 7 Day
Monday July 13th 11 19.14
Tuesday July 14th 32 20.29
Wednesday July 15th 14 20.71
Thursday July 16th 21 20.43
Friday July 17th 34 21.71
Saturday July 18th 21 21.43
Sunday July 19th 10 20.43
Monday July 20th 6 19.71
Tuesday July 21st 36 20.29
Wednesday July 22nd 17 20.71
Thursday July 23rd 7 18.71
Friday July 24th 20 16.71
Saturday July 25th 24 17.14
Sunday July 26th 12 17.43
Monday July 27th 11 18.14
Tuesday July 28th 40 18.71
Wednesday July 29th 14 18.29
Thursday July 30th 85 29.43
Friday July 31st 38 32.00
Saturday August 1st 45 35.00
Sunday August 2nd 53 40.86

What a difference a week makes.

touts · 02-08-2020 06:47PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I reckon the pubs will open to be honest

Can't see it. If opening the pubs in August in any way endangers the opening of schools in September then the pubs will stay shut. If that means they go out of business then the attitude will be so be it. It's the lesser of two evils. Opening the schools enables hundreds of thousands of parents to get back into the economy. The pubs employ a fraction of that. And in 2-3 years there will be a vaccine and most pubs will have reopened with new owners and staff. It will be a no brainier really.

Harry Palmr · 02-08-2020 06:48PM

Anyone who is unhappy with daily numbers can just make them 'reliable' by doing a seven day rolling average. No real arguing with that.

As for the state of affairs it feels like it's time for a return to daily briefings and some stern words from the minister for health at the very least. Too many are drifting from the message.

Turtwig · 02-08-2020 06:48PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I reckon the pubs will open to be honest

I think that would be too much of a risk. Priotise schools first. Get them open as much as possible and engaging proactively with blended learning. Opening the pubs would also lessen the opportunity to better understand the risks that schools bring.

VinLieger · 02-08-2020 06:48PM

They really need to start breaking down the dublin numbers for everyone to see. Everything ive heard is the real problems in dublin are north off the liffey.

road_high · 02-08-2020 06:49PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

And how will the country finance this approach?

Something about the ECB printing money or something to that effect

xabi · 02-08-2020 06:49PM

froog wrote: »

then when the figures stabilise we start opening up again. and we repeat this cycle until such time as we get a vaccine or a solid suite of therapeutic drugs. it's the only way to deal with this thing unfortunately.

What if we don’t find a vaccine?

froog · 02-08-2020 06:50PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You clearly don't have any economist experience

i know dead people don't contribute much to the economy.

road_high · 02-08-2020 06:51PM

Turtwig wrote: »

I think that would be too much of a risk. Priotise schools first. Get them open as much as possible and engaging proactively with blended learning. Opening the pubs would also lessen the opportunity to better understand the risks that schools bring.

So house parties continue instead? With absolutely no measures or social distancing in place

Always_Running · 02-08-2020 06:51PM

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

Once the existing clusters are under control there more than likely will be new ones.

Many are ignoring that the number of clusters are increasing. Hence the number of cases.

Will be more no doubt but all aren't as troublesome as the clusters in the last week.

votecounts · 02-08-2020 06:51PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/irishexaminer/status/1289952677321830401?s=19

a bunch of selfish muppets, think they could do something better and think of other people:(

Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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