Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

deckie66 · 02-08-2020 06:10PM

Virtually no community transmission - move to Phase 4 should happen

ACitizenErased · 02-08-2020 06:10PM

Of the cases notified today:

27 are men and 26 are women
80% are under 45 years of age
45 are associated with outbreaks or close contacts of a confirmed case
4 cases have been identified as community transmission
25 cases are located in Dublin, 19 in Laois, 6 in Kildare and the remaining 3 are spread across two other counties

stephenjmcd · 02-08-2020 06:11PM

Dr Glynn coming across as being quite relieved in the press release.
“The source of transmission for over 90% of cases reported today has been identified. This is a positive development in light of the number of cases reported over the past few days"

Wild Field 1831 · 02-08-2020 06:11PM

Always_Running wrote: »

286 cases this week which works out as 41 cases per day. The bad news it's the highest weekly number of cases since the first week of June. Good news once clusters are under control weekly cases should cut in half and we only had 1 death this week.

Once the existing clusters are under control there more than likely will be new ones.

Many are ignoring that the number of clusters are increasing. Hence the number of cases.

podgeandrodge · 02-08-2020 06:11PM

deckie66 wrote: »

Virtually no community transmission - move to Phase 4 should happen

Somebody should string up the load of those little cnuts in Clare though with that carry on. Not generally too concerned about outdoors, but is say the lot of them were exchanging more than platitudes throughout the night!

is_that_so · 02-08-2020 06:12PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Are older people not being infected as much, or have we elderly herd immunity

Care homes now have proper infection control protocols in place and the majority of the rest are doing what they've been doing for 5 months.

polesheep · 02-08-2020 06:12PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Are older people not being infected as much, or have we elderly herd immunity

There was an initial pool of vulnerable people. Obviously that pool is constantly refilled, but we have a grip now on the nursing homes.

is_that_so · 02-08-2020 06:15PM

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

Once the existing clusters are under control there more than likely will be new ones.

Many are ignoring that the number of clusters are increasing. Hence the number of cases.

Clusters are considered active for 28 days. We had huge numbers of care home clusters at one stage and a lot were closed over a very short period of time.

stephenjmcd · 02-08-2020 06:16PM

Wales reopening hospitality with a similar situation to here, cases increasing in certain areas but deaths and hospital admissions low.

https://twitter.com/fmwales/status/1289863782018084865?s=19

PmMeUrDogs · 02-08-2020 06:19PM

Given the clusters forming in workplaces (construction sites, meat factories, etc, think one associated with a creche too?), surely compliance should be checked more thoroughly in workplaces?

That could be a very stupid question but with the exception of creches, surely staff in other areas should be distancing at all times anyway? Yet they seem to be passing the virus to each other? I genuinely think the HSA or HSE need to inspect more businesses more thoroughly

Plumbthedepths · 02-08-2020 06:22PM

PmMeUrDogs wrote: »

Given the clusters forming in workplaces (construction sites, meat factories, etc, think one associated with a creche too?), surely compliance should be checked more thoroughly in workplaces?

That could be a very stupid question but with the exception of creches, surely staff in other areas should be distancing at all times anyway? Yet they seem to be passing the virus to each other? I genuinely think the HSA or HSE need to inspect more businesses more thoroughly

Some jobs don't allow for distancing, this is where the pod concept and contact tracing is important.
Unannounced inspections will also get various sectors to up their game.

is_that_so · 02-08-2020 06:23PM

PmMeUrDogs wrote: »

Given the clusters forming in workplaces (construction sites, meat factories, etc, think one associated with a creche too?), surely compliance should be checked more thoroughly in workplaces?

That could be a very stupid question but with the exception of creches, surely staff in other areas should be distancing at all times anyway? Yet they seem to be passing the virus to each other? I genuinely think the HSA or HSE need to inspect more businesses more thoroughly

Certain workplaces are more risky due to the proximity of workers and the working environment. Those same workers could also be living together. The HSA/HSE do seem to be aware of that.

ninebeanrows · 02-08-2020 06:23PM

IMO, today has illustrated the publication of our COVID cases is pre viewed and pre determined by government.

Can we please have an honest day to day release of numbers and not this shambles?

If our Health Minister gets a pre look at numbers, be honest and tell us

All we want from this government is honesty and full disclosure

ACitizenErased · 02-08-2020 06:24PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

IMO, today has illustrated the publication of our COVID cases is pre viewed and pre determined by government.

Can we please have an honest day to day release of numbers and not this shambles?

If our Health Minister gets a pre look at numbers, be honest and tell us

All we want from this government is honesty and full disclosure

The numbers are from midnight last night, literally everybody knows this

ninebeanrows · 02-08-2020 06:29PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The numbers are from midnight last night, literally everybody knows this

How did he know pretty much the exact number at a tv show recorded at 10am?

And why are numbers you post always so different to what they do?

I'd actually like a genuine explanation, not a criticism if anything.

Few weeks back we were back loaded numbers with no explanation

What Username Guidelines · 02-08-2020 06:29PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The numbers are from midnight last night, literally everybody knows this

Donnelly did say earlier he expected to see cases in the 50-60 range. Maybe he was misinterpreted, maybe it was assuming it was following a trend.

Wild Field 1831 · 02-08-2020 06:30PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Clusters are considered active for 28 days. We had huge numbers of care home clusters at one stage and a lot were closed over a very short period of time.

Yes but clusters are popping up in all sorts of settings now. There's a wider scope than nursing homes. We have post funeral clusters, workplace ones, travel related, direct provision centres, house parties. And in 4 weeks we expect schools to open.

The fact of the matter is cases are rising. In my opinion it's 50/50 whether we contain Covid or end up going down some sort of Melbourne type route of lockdown.

It's unpopular to say that around here as a lot of posters can't handle a non positive biased view point.

The site is filled with statements, which while generally true are not counter balanced. Stuff like 'fair play to our tracing system, it's really working'. 'I'm very happy as only 10% of cases are community transfer'. As if an anonymous poster saying they are happy with things caries any weight.

Too many purport to know more about the situation than they possibly can. None of us know what will happen. Every week global cases continue to rise. Countries are reporting mixed scenarios. Too many for comfort with rising cases.

Kermit posted all the negative stats. But he's very much missed as a few posters have really unbalanced things on the positive side. Everything with regards to case increases is explained away in a positive fashion. The truth is never black and white in these scenarios.

froog · 02-08-2020 06:31PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

IMO, today has illustrated the publication of our COVID cases is pre viewed and pre determined by government.

Can we please have an honest day to day release of numbers and not this shambles?

If our Health Minister gets a pre look at numbers, be honest and tell us

All we want from this government is honesty and full disclosure

lol what? you don't expect the health minister, the top guy for health in the entire country to be one of the first to see the figures? you want him to wait for the press conference?

fritzelly · 02-08-2020 06:32PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Donnelly did say earlier he expected to see cases in the 50-60 range. Maybe he was misinterpreted, maybe it was assuming it was following a trend.

He shouldn't really be speculating or releasing information re cases - not his job

ninebeanrows · 02-08-2020 06:32PM

froog wrote: »

lol what? you don't expect the health minister, the top guy for health in the entire country to be one of the first to see the figures? you want him to wait for the press conference?

If you read my post youd understand I want to know that.

Up to now weve been led to believe they didnt know the number until every evening.

It is quite simple, let us have transparency

froog · 02-08-2020 06:33PM

we need to go back to full lockdown for a few weeks at least to nip this in the bud.

Arghus · 02-08-2020 06:33PM

fritzelly wrote: »

He shouldn't really be speculating or releasing information re cases - not his job

It's hardly that big a deal for him to say that's what he expects. I don't know what you mean by it's not his job, he is the minister for health.

Especially when it turns out to be correct.

froog · 02-08-2020 06:34PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

If you read my post youd understand I want to know that.

Up to now weve been led to believe they didnt know the number until every evening.

It is quite simple, let us have transparency

as the top health guy in the entire country i want him to be the first to know of any information related to public health.

ShineOn7 · 02-08-2020 06:35PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Vintners looking at this and thinking we're screwed

Zero chance the pubs will open on August 10

Government will save that R0 for the schools re-opening

fritzelly · 02-08-2020 06:35PM

Arghus wrote: »

It's hardly that big a deal for him to say that's what he expects.

Especially when it turns out to be correct.

Unprofessional to spout what he expects re cases, what if he says 100 tomorrow and its 20

Its up NPHET/HSE to verify and release figures

Arghus · 02-08-2020 06:36PM

Boards is seriously fcked tonight.

xabi · 02-08-2020 06:37PM

froog wrote: »

we need to go back to full lockdown for a few weeks at least to nip this in the bud.

And then what?

Plumbthedepths · 02-08-2020 06:38PM

Arghus wrote: »

Boards is seriously fcked tonight.

Situation normal so. ;-)

is_that_so · 02-08-2020 06:38PM

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

Yes but clusters are popping up in all sorts of settings now. There's a wider scope than nursing homes. We have post funeral clusters, workplace ones, travel related, direct provision centres, house parties. And in 4 weeks we expect schools to open.

The fact of the matter is cases are rising. In my opinion it's 50/50 whether we contain Covid or end up going down some sort of Melbourne type route of lockdown.

It's unpopular to say that around here as a lot of posters can't handle a non positive biased view point.

The site is filled with statements, which while generally true are not counter balanced. Stuff like 'fair play to our tracing system, it's really working'. 'I'm very happy as only 10% of cases are community transfer'. As if an anonymous poster saying they are happy with things caries any weight.

Too many purport to know more about the situation than they possibly can. None of us know what will happen. Every week global cases continue to rise. Countries are reporting mixed scenarios. Too many for comfort with rising cases.

Kermit posted all the negative stats. But he's very much missed as a few posters have really unbalanced things on the positive side. Everything with regards to case increases is explained away in a positive fashion. The truth is never black and white in these scenarios.

Well, Glynn seems pleased that 90% of cases can be linked to clusters. He was also the one who said contract tracing is working very well. Even when these numbers subside we'll still find new clusters. Apart from the messy government efforts to restore a level of normality some people will need to face the perhaps tougher challenge of living with this.

ShineOn7 · 02-08-2020 06:38PM

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

Yes but clusters are popping up in all sorts of settings now. There's a wider scope than nursing homes. We have post funeral clusters, workplace ones, travel related, direct provision centres, house parties. And in 4 weeks we expect schools to open.

The fact of the matter is cases are rising. In my opinion it's 50/50 whether we contain Covid or end up going down some sort of Melbourne type route of lockdown.

It's unpopular to say that around here as a lot of posters can't handle a non positive biased view point.

The site is filled with statements, which while generally true are not counter balanced. Stuff like 'fair play to our tracing system, it's really working'. 'I'm very happy as only 10% of cases are community transfer'. As if an anonymous poster saying they are happy with things caries any weight.

Too many purport to know more about the situation than they possibly can. None of us know what will happen. Every week global cases continue to rise. Countries are reporting mixed scenarios. Too many for comfort with rising cases.

Kermit posted all the negative stats. But he's very much missed as a few posters have really unbalanced things on the positive side. Everything with regards to case increases is explained away in a positive fashion. The truth is never black and white in these scenarios.

Excellent post

Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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