Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

gabeeg · 02-08-2020 12:22AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I seem to know more? I gave you the figures, you chose to ignore them, and you're claiming that it has long-term effects. Show me a study over a long period of time that shows these effects and I'll read it.

I posted a link from the CDC earlier today about prolonged effects of covid.

You didn't bother your hole reading it. Instead you posted a link to a well known conspiracy-theory website and suggested we all read it, numbers guy.

spookwoman · 02-08-2020 12:28AM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1289703633110605826?s=20

FintanMcluskey · 02-08-2020 12:31AM

Voltairey wrote: »

Wow i did not expect this thread to be so filled with hate.

I think a lot of you need to take a step back from fighting with each other and just calm down. It's typical deflection behaviour. You're clearly afraid and trying to apportion blame or rationalise it by saying that everyone else is overreacting.

There's a reason entire countries have ground to a halt. Alright, the spread is predominantly among younger people so the hospitalisations and deaths are down. But it's a new virus and this is a situation that has never happened before in our lifetimes.

The completely spurious arguments about who you'd rather have dying of the virus are absolutely bizzare. Let's just try our best to make sure nobody gets sick and call out anyone who seems to be acting without due consideration for the circumstances. I get the impression that if we were back at 300 cases per day, some posters here would still be acting the bollocks and telling people they're "lockdown merchants" and the like.

This is honestly one of the most bewildering, lawless Covid message boards I've read anywhere on the internet. I feel sorry for anyone actually looking for useful information or trying to post something they've discovered with the amount of bullying and attack dogs here.

Its an anonymous forum on the internet, not a public health broadcast.

Obviously posters will constantly disagree.

The world has became perpetually offended

ACitizenErased · 02-08-2020 12:31AM

maebee wrote: »

I'm totally shocked at this - that you Citizen are in your early 20s :eek: With your (extremely valuable) knowledge and brilliance at figures, I would have placed you in your early 50s

Thank you

I’m still in university

fritzelly · 02-08-2020 12:32AM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1289703633110605826?s=20

Per capita that is still a very low number of deaths

ACitizenErased · 02-08-2020 12:33AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Per capita that is still a very low number of deaths

I’d love to see their pneumonia chart

igCorcaigh · 02-08-2020 12:34AM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1289703633110605826?s=20

Yeah, the 1000 a day figure will go down slowly after the peak, but there is a huge area under the curve of the slow decline. Most deaths happen after the peak, unfortunately. And the long tail.

fritzelly · 02-08-2020 12:35AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I’d love to see their pneumonia chart

Yeah was gonna edit my post to say some "conspiracy nonsense" but...

Average 8k deaths per day - be interesting to see how the daily death figures are looking back when they make the figures available

gabeeg · 02-08-2020 12:36AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Thank you I’m still in university

Money well spent clearly

igCorcaigh · 02-08-2020 12:36AM

And for the people who compare this new illness to flu or anything else... Can you imagine if flu never existed, and then flu was suddenly discovered. There would be a shock!

spookwoman · 02-08-2020 12:40AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Yeah, the 1000 a day figure will go down slowly after the peak, but there is a huge area under the curve of the slow decline. Most deaths happen after the peak, unfortunately. And the long tail.

With cases starting to go up again will probably see the results in a few weeks.

igCorcaigh · 02-08-2020 12:43AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Thank you I’m still in university

I always struggled with stats on my BioMed degree, back in '95. Still don't get the null hypothesis!

But I've been learning more about it. It's so applicable to everything.

gabeeg · 02-08-2020 12:44AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

And for the people who compare this new illness to flu or anything else... Can you imagine if flu never existed, and then flu was suddenly discovered. There would be a shock!

"It's just a smallpox"

FintanMcluskey · 02-08-2020 12:45AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

And for the people who compare this new illness to flu or anything else... Can you imagine if flu never existed, and then flu was suddenly discovered. There would be a shock!

I hope people realise that when a vaccine is available for Covid, people will still die at the same rate every year.

gabeeg · 02-08-2020 12:47AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I hope people realise that when a vaccine is available for Covid, people will still die at the same rate every year.

What on earth are you talking about?

FintanMcluskey · 02-08-2020 12:52AM

gabeeg wrote: »

What on earth are you talking about?

Almost 35m have died so far this year worldwide of all causes, and the mean age of victims of Covid is over the life expectancy in many countries, so what Im saying, is death will continue at the same rate with a vaccine

spookwoman · 02-08-2020 12:52AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I hope people realise that when a vaccine is available for Covid, people will still die at the same rate every year.

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Tork · 02-08-2020 12:52AM

The danger with saying "Oh it's mostly young people getting it now, it'll be grand" is that it's feeding a dangerous narrative. Any of us with eyes in our heads will have noticed that the majority of people who aren't social distancing, wearing masks or taking the proper precautions are young people. They're not taking it seriously and I'd like to know how many of them change their behaviour once they come home from hanging out with their friends. Most of them have older relatives who possibly aren't as robust as they are. The message about protecting other people has been lost here.

Arghus · 02-08-2020 01:00AM

Tork wrote: »

The danger with saying "Oh it's mostly young people getting it now, it'll be grand" is that it's feeding a dangerous narrative. Any of us with eyes in our heads will have noticed that the majority of people who aren't social distancing, wearing masks or taking the proper precautions are young people. They're not taking it seriously and I'd like to know how many of them change their behaviour once they come home from hanging out with their friends. Most of them have older relatives who possibly aren't as robust as they are. The message about protecting other people has been lost here.

I assure you that there's a lot of people on here who still agree with that message.

Even if we're not as numerous as we once were.

gabeeg · 02-08-2020 01:05AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Almost 35m have died so far this year worldwide of all causes, and the mean age of victims of Covid is over the life expectancy in many countries, so what Im saying, is death will continue at the same rate with a vaccine

Sometimes things move the needle, pal. See the black death for more details.

And clearly you've yet to discover modern medicine. There's a whole world of stuff that clearly you know nothing about.

I'm almost jealous of you. Wait until you start learning about actual stuff for a change. Imagine having literally all of human history right in front of you, waiting to be discovered.

In some ways you're a very, very lucky person. Enjoy it.

John O.Groats · 02-08-2020 01:06AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Almost 35m have died so far this year worldwide of all causes, and the mean age of victims of Covid is over the life expectancy in many countries, so what Im saying, is death will continue at the same rate with a vaccine

Unless you are an expert on virology which I very much doubt you don`t know anything of the kind. Absurd comment to make.

fritzelly · 02-08-2020 01:07AM

gabeeg wrote: »

Sometimes things move the needle, pal. See the black death for more details.

And clearly you've yet to discover modern medicine. There's a whole world of stuff that clearly you know nothing about.

I'm almost jealous of you. Wait until you start learning about actual stuff for a change. Imagine having literally all of human history right in front of you, waiting to be discovered.

I'm some ways you're a very, very lucky person. Enjoy it.

Do you mean Wikipedia?

FintanMcluskey · 02-08-2020 01:08AM

gabeeg wrote: »

Sometimes things move the needle, pal. See the black death for more details.

And clearly you've yet to discover modern medicine. There's a whole world of stuff that clearly you know nothing about.

I'm almost jealous of you. Wait until you start learning about actual stuff for a change. Imagine having literally all of human history right in front of you, waiting to be discovered.

I'm some ways you're a very, very lucky person. Enjoy it.

Haha easy on the drink man, we all have limits.

gabeeg · 02-08-2020 01:09AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Do you mean Wikipedia?

It's not ideal, but it's better than whatever source you've been getting your info from to date.

Please come back now and then to tell us all of your progress.

FintanMcluskey · 02-08-2020 01:09AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Unless you are an expert on virology which I very much doubt you don`t know anything of the kind. Absurd comment to make.

Well unless you are an expert on virology its absurd for you to make judgement.

spookwoman · 02-08-2020 01:10AM

Tork wrote: »

The danger with saying "Oh it's mostly young people getting it now, it'll be grand" is that it's feeding a dangerous narrative. Any of us with eyes in our heads will have noticed that the majority of people who aren't social distancing, wearing masks or taking the proper precautions are young people. They're not taking it seriously and I'd like to know how many of them change their behaviour once they come home from hanging out with their friends. Most of them have older relatives who possibly aren't as robust as they are. The message about protecting other people has been lost here.

Age should have no bearing on it, no one can say if they will survive getting infected or if they will have long term health problems if they do. There seems to be this belief and it's been there from that start that younger people are not as badly affected by it. It's like the Trump worshipers and the masks, they won't wear them and even when their own lot who were very outspoken on the subject die they still won't put on a mask.
i said this near the start This won't be a case of survival of the fittest, it will be survival of the smartest.

gabeeg · 02-08-2020 01:11AM

I'm an expert on virology

fritzelly · 02-08-2020 01:12AM

gabeeg wrote: »

It's not ideal, but it's better than whatever source you've been getting your info from to date.

Please come back now and then to tell us all of your progress.

Think your comment is wrongly directed

Still would take anything on wikipedia with a grain of salt

fritzelly · 02-08-2020 01:13AM

spookwoman wrote: »

Age should have no bearing on it, no one can say if they will survive getting infected or if they will have long term health problems if they do. There seems to be this belief and it's been there from that start that younger people are not as badly affected by it. It's like the Trump worshipers and the masks, they won't wear them and even when their own lot who were very outspoken on the subject die they still won't put on a mask.
i said this near the start This won't be a case of survival of the fittest, it will be survival of the smartest.

When their own kind die they conveniently skim over the fact and when challenged rant about other things

gabeeg · 02-08-2020 01:14AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Think your comment is wrongly directed

Still would take anything on wikipedia with a grain of salt

It was. I jumped the gun.

I make no apologies though. Sorry.

Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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