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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    18 out of the 45 are associated with known cases

    12 community transmission

    Which leaves 15?

    Travel related?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Boggles wrote: »
    18 out of the 45 are associated with known cases

    12 community transmission

    Which leaves 15?

    Travel related?

    Health care workers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    The number of community transmissions out of total is actually 2-3% down (33% total, 30% last 3 days) so we’re not seeing any sort of increase in that

    Those figures you're mentioning mean nothing.

    The impact of these clusters on community transmission won't show yet. You can expect to see community spread increase over the next few weeks around the cluster areas and onwards.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Boggles wrote: »
    18 out of the 45 are associated with known cases

    12 community transmission

    Which leaves 15?

    Travel related?

    12 community transmission is a bit high, isn't it?

    If 12 separate cases is related to community transmission, would that mean that's 12 more people which are out there going undetected and spreading it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Health care workers?

    An increase of 9

    Yesterdays numbers 8420 +13
    Todays 8429 +9


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 972 ✭✭✭radharc


    According to the Independent, Dr Glynn said that restaurants should limit capacity to 50 people including staff. I don’t believe this has been mentioned anywhere before, the Failte Ireland guidelines certainly don’t include any mention of it??

    I had thought the 50 cap applied to indoor gatherings but not to businesses such as restaurants or cafes..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Health care workers?

    They are Known case or community spread I guess.

    I always thought the transmission classification consisted of 3 things.

    The 3rd one being travel.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    radharc wrote: »
    According to the Independent, Dr Glynn said that restaurants should limit capacity to 50 people including staff. I don’t believe this has been mentioned anywhere before, the Failte Ireland guidelines certainly don’t include any mention of it??

    I had thought the 50 cap applied to indoor gatherings but not to businesses such as restaurants or cafes..

    You'd think people per sq.ft of restaurant would be a better calculator than a blanket limit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    12 community transmission is a bit high, isn't it?

    If 12 separate cases is related to community transmission, would that mean that's 12 more people which are out there going undetected and spreading it?

    Well "high" is relative to be fair.

    But considering they were worried about 20 odd community transmission cases the past few days, I imagine another 12 on top of that won't make them any less worried.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Vertigo100


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    How did the child get it?

    The positive cases seem to be getting younger

    Don’t know but the only symptom the child had was a runny nose and a bit of a temperature.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    radharc wrote: »
    According to the Independent, Dr Glynn said that restaurants should limit capacity to 50 people including staff. I don’t believe this has been mentioned anywhere before, the Failte Ireland guidelines certainly don’t include any mention of it??

    I had thought the 50 cap applied to indoor gatherings but not to businesses such as restaurants or cafes..

    Yeah thats never applied to businesses and the government advice & Failte Ireland guidelines haven't changed to say anything different.

    If I remember correctly it was raised at the start and businesses were told it didn't apply to them.

    Applies to indoor gatherings such as weddings, funerals etc.

    Businesses limit occupancy based on the space they have. Hospitality have their limit based off the tables being either 1m or 2m apart


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Those figures you're mentioning mean nothing.

    The impact of these clusters on community transmission won't show yet. You can expect to see community spread increase over the next few weeks around the cluster areas and onwards.

    So what do you expect us to do? The virus is here for good. Are you hinting that we should have a permanent lockdown? Will that make you and the cohort on here happy? We all then can claim the 350 a week until it runs out and the country has no money left? Then what? You have to live with the virus and the spread of it when people exercise their freedoms and do your best to protect yourself from it.

    There’s a good chance of a vaccine by the end of the year, i’m sure you’ll be a good citizen and will take it to help curb the community transmission you keep talking about.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    radharc wrote: »
    According to the Independent, Dr Glynn said that restaurants should limit capacity to 50 people including staff. I don’t believe this has been mentioned anywhere before, the Failte Ireland guidelines certainly don’t include any mention of it??

    I had thought the 50 cap applied to indoor gatherings but not to businesses such as restaurants or cafes..

    I remember hearing it before. It was said in relation to weddings but might have mentioned other business types as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    12 cases of community transmission how does this compare to other days the last few weeks? Sorry havnt seen a community transmission figure mentioned specifically in most RTÉ reports so nothing to compare with .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,590 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    You'd think people per sq.ft of restaurant would be a better calculator than a blanket limit?
    That would make more sense.
    I saw up north outside a lot of shops they have a maximum number allowed in shop at same time on board, I think based on square foot


  • Posts: 3,733 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    copeyhagen wrote: »

      maybe beacuse its not as serious for the vast majority as we first feared? jus a thought, wheres the hospital cases from the house aprty clusters etc.

      I don't know if this has already been mentioned but the low hospital numbers and fatalities could be down to more younger people contacting it.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


      bb1234567 wrote: »
      12 cases of community transmission how does this compare to other days the last few weeks? Sorry havnt seen a community transmission figure mentioned specifically in most RTÉ reports so nothing to compare with .

      12/45 is 27% which is less than the 33% avg


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


      spookwoman wrote: »
      TBH there is a big difference between the factories and someone voluntarily breaking the regs by staying in a pub longer than they should.

      FYI bringing this back up as I've asked someone who's currently working in this pub.

      The tables are 2m apart so no time limit applies. 105 minutes applies when tables are 1m apart.

      I'll be back in tomorrow evening for 3 hours again so probably, guilt free


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


      FYI bringing this back up as I've asked someone who's currently working in this pub.

      The tables are 2m apart so no time limit applies. 105 minutes applies when tables are 1m apart.

      I'll be back in tomorrow evening for 3 hours again so probably, guilt free

      I assume the ventilation system is world class and hence your confidence?


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,342 ✭✭✭gipi


      radharc wrote: »
      According to the Independent, Dr Glynn said that restaurants should limit capacity to 50 people including staff. I don’t believe this has been mentioned anywhere before, the Failte Ireland guidelines certainly don’t include any mention of it??

      I had thought the 50 cap applied to indoor gatherings but not to businesses such as restaurants or cafes..

      That surprised me too - one of my local restaurants can seat 140, across 4 rooms, and has been booked out several times since reopening.


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    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


      Micky 32 wrote: »
      So what do you expect us to do? The virus is here for good. Are you hinting that we should have a permanent lockdown? Will that make you and the cohort on here happy? We all then can claim the 350 a week until it runs out and the country has no money left? Then what? You have to live with the virus and the spread of it when people exercise their freedoms and do your best to protect yourself from it.

      There’s a good chance of a vaccine by the end of the year, i’m sure you’ll be a good citizen and will take it to help curb the community transmission you keep talking about.

      You should be thankful for forums like this, it's a great place to let it all out and everyone needs an output.

      I wasn't hinting at anything or expecting anyone to do anything, I was only voicing how I felt things were going to go. I see that it didn't match with how you felt things were going to go.

      Your post sounds like the ramblings of a mad man, I'm not out to get you, I'm only giving my two cents.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


      FYI bringing this back up as I've asked someone who's currently working in this pub.

      The tables are 2m apart so no time limit applies. 105 minutes applies when tables are 1m apart.

      I'll be back in tomorrow evening for 3 hours again so probably, guilt free

      I've not seen or heard that anywhere, and I feel it would have been widely publicized if that was the case as there was a lot of coverage of the 105 minutes.

      Employee likely talking out of their Michael Martin I think.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


      thelad95 wrote: »
      I've not seen or heard that anywhere, and I feel it would have been widely publicized if that was the case as there was a lot of coverage of the 105 minutes.

      Employee likely talking out of their Michael Martin I think.

      It is contained within the Failte Ireland guidelines

      Where 2m can't be maintained 1m is allowed so long as risk mitigation requirements are in place to include pre booking and time slots.

      Where 2m is applied and maintained no time limits apply.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


      GooglePlus wrote: »

      Your post sounds like the ramblings of a mad man, .

      Good man with the insults. I’m far from mad if you must know. But i guess reading the bolloxogy on this thread could send someone mad.

      Will you be taking the vaccine?


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


      I’m not overly concerned, I still thing we’re doing okay, especially when you consider hospital/ICU numbers. However, there is an increase in numbers and even though it is from a very very low base, and is largely driven by known clusters it’s still something we need to remain vigilant. It can grow exponentially as we have seen so I would take only a small bit of comfort that they are mainly clusters - it is still an increased number of cases with potential to spread.

      I think if there was to be a second wave, it is unlikely to be like April as people are wearing masks etc

      Roll on the vaccine


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


      Micky 32 wrote: »
      Good man with the insults. I’m far from mad if you must know. But i guess reading the bolloxogy on this thread could send someone mad.

      Will you be taking the vaccine?

      Of course I'd take a tested and proven safe vaccine, why wouldn't I?

      I didn't mean to insult, I just read your post and I thought it sounded a bit mad.


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


      GooglePlus wrote: »
      Of course I'd take a tested and proven safe vaccine, why wouldn't I?

      So it comes out in January after it passes the phases and deemed safe you’ll take it early next year? Or 2 years, 3 years or 5 years?


    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


      Micky 32 wrote: »
      So it comes out in January after it passes the phases and deemed safe you’ll take it early next year? Or 2 years, 3 years or 5 years?

      Can you just make your point, life is short enough..


    • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


      The rise sucks absolute balls, even if we know where they are or come from. It sets people on edge (maybe no harm), but fook me I’m sick of corona.


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    • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


      GooglePlus wrote: »
      Can you just make your point, life is short enough..

      I think i already have ;-)


    This discussion has been closed.
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