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Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 10:28AM

circadian wrote: »

I know everyone needs a break at some point but 6 weeks in the middle of everything going to **** is taking the hand.

As far as I know most of the European governments are also taking a break now.

If they hold off and then take a break later in the year when the rest of the governments are at work imagine the up roar then?

To be honest at this stage its fairly childish the carry on of people. Damned if you do and damned if you don't is the attitude.

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 10:29AM

smurgen wrote: »

I take it when we're quiet. And if we're busy or something big comes up we reschedule oh and it's definitely not 6 consecutive weeks.

Great idea, when exactly is Ireland "quiet"?

blanch152 · 31-07-2020 10:34AM

smurgen wrote: »

I take it when we're quiet. And if we're busy or something big comes up we reschedule oh and it's definitely not 6 consecutive weeks.

To be fair, while the Dail won't be sitting and the likes of Paul "Foghorn" Murphy will get a rest, the Cabinet will still be working away preparing for the October budget and the estimates. It won't be full-on but any of them will be lucky if they get two days in a row of no meetings and phonecalls.

If any ire is be directed anywhere, it should be at the opposition who have nothing to do and will do nothing as always while the Ministers and junior Ministers will keep working away during this period.

McMurphy · 31-07-2020 10:35AM

blanch152 wrote: »

To be fair, while the Dail won't be sitting and the likes of Paul "Foghorn" Murphy will get a rest, the Cabinet will still be working away preparing for the October budget and the estimates. It won't be full-on but any of them will be lucky if they get two days in a row of no meetings and phonecalls.

If any ire is be directed anywhere, it should be at the opposition who have nothing to do and will do nothing as always while the Ministers and junior Ministers will keep working away during this period.

Some of them will be putting in 160hr weeks blanch.

JohnnyFlash · 31-07-2020 10:35AM

blanch152 wrote: »

To be fair, while the Dail won't be sitting and the likes of Paul "Foghorn" Murphy will get a rest, the Cabinet will still be working away preparing for the October budget and the estimates. It won't be full-on but any of them will be lucky if they get two days in a row of no meetings and phonecalls.

If any ire is be directed anywhere, it should be at the opposition who have nothing to do and will do nothing as always while the Ministers and junior Ministers will keep working away during this period.

Paul Murphy won’t be able to visit Cuba or Venezuela this year to see his socialist wet dreams in reality.

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 10:39AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Paul Murphy won’t be able to visit Cuba or Venezuela this year to see his socialist wet dreams in reality.

But Leo could ignore the very real and uncertain Covid dangers and head off to sate his capitalist wet dreams and see his buddy Trump?

Jaysus Johnny. :rolleyes:

Professor Moriarty · 31-07-2020 10:48AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

But Leo could ignore the very real and uncertain Covid dangers and head off to sate his capitalist wet dreams and see his buddy Trump?

Jaysus Johnny. :rolleyes:

Nobody on planet Earth thinks that Varadkar has anything but contempt for Trump.

McMurphy · 31-07-2020 10:49AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Paul Murphy won’t be able to visit Cuba or Venezuela this year to see his socialist wet dreams in reality.

They're not on the green list?

He could in theory still go, but he'd have to self isolate for 14days on his return, the same as Michaél Martin was supposed to do when he got back from Belgium (also not on the green list)

Murphy might actually do what Michaél did not though.

KiKi III · 31-07-2020 10:57AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Great idea, when exactly is Ireland "quiet"?

Normally at this time of year, when there's no pandemic and the impact of Brexit isn't imminent.

With all that going on, they could say "we might just take the month this year folks".

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 10:58AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Nobody on planet Earth thinks that Varadkar has anything but contempt for Trump.

Didn't stop him have a wee jaunt over when Covid fears were very real and uncertain. Lure of the PR glare was too much.

Not seeing any signs of his 'contempt' either, but then I have to admit I haven't researched it too much.

Professor Moriarty · 31-07-2020 11:01AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Didn't stop him have a wee jaunt over when Covid fears were very real and uncertain. Lure of the PR glare was too much.

Not seeing any signs of his 'contempt' either, but then I have to admit I haven't researched it too much.

He went over because he had to as head of government. Are you seriously suggesting a person like Varadkar would actually admire a person like Trump?

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 11:10AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

He went over because he had to as head of government. Are you seriously suggesting a person like Varadkar would actually admire a person like Trump?

I don't know, is what I said.

What signs of his 'contempt' can you point to?

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 11:11AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

He went over because he had to as head of government. Are you seriously suggesting a person like Varadkar would actually admire a person like Trump?

Nothing about any of these posts are "serious"

Just more bile from a certain group.

Interesting to see other political leaders have no issues jumping at the chance to meet Trump even when not the head of government :P

https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-think-in-trump-4216439-Sep2018/

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 11:12AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I don't know, is what I said.

What signs of his 'contempt' can you point to?

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/president-trump/leo-varadkar-criticises-donald-trump-over-absence-of-moral-leadership-in-response-to-us-protests-39259802.html

JohnnyFlash · 31-07-2020 11:15AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I don't know, is what I said.

What signs of his 'contempt' can you point to?

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/president-trump/leo-varadkar-criticises-donald-trump-over-absence-of-moral-leadership-in-response-to-us-protests-39259802.html

There ya go, dude.

Donald Trump was invited to, and attended, a SF fundraiser btw.

ronivek · 31-07-2020 11:16AM

I mean if arrogance is the worst you can say about one of our senior Government politicians then we’re not doing too bad. Take a look across the pond if you want to see what mindless populism gets you.

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 11:18AM

Gerry and the lads had a nice event with Trump
https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-trump-fundraiser-donation-3490342-Jul2017/

Of course we can all believe SF when they say he didn't donate

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 11:21AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/president-trump/leo-varadkar-criticises-donald-trump-over-absence-of-moral-leadership-in-response-to-us-protests-39259802.html

There ya go, dude.

Donald Trump was invited to, and attended, a SF fundraiser btw.

If you guys could take the deflection glasses off for a sec...just a wee sec, you would see that I wasn't criticising him for meeting Trump at all, but the timing of his meeting Trump.

You are that busy ducking and diving and pointing at themuns over there on a FG thread you must have missed that.

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 11:26AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If you guys could take the deflection glasses off for a sec...just a wee sec, you would see that I wasn't criticising him for meeting Trump at all, but the timing of his meeting Trump.

You are that busy ducking and diving and pointing at themuns over there on a FG thread you must have missed that.

:P

Pure comedy you are Francie

Professor Moriarty · 31-07-2020 11:27AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I don't know, is what I said.

What signs of his 'contempt' can you point to?

Given my observations of Varadkar as a human being and as a politician, I'm certain that such a person would hold Trump in utter contempt. In fact, I can't think of an Irish TD who would have admiration and respect for Trump. Can you?

McMurphy · 31-07-2020 11:28AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/president-trump/leo-varadkar-criticises-donald-trump-over-absence-of-moral-leadership-in-response-to-us-protests-39259802.html

There ya go, dude.

Donald Trump was invited to, and attended, a SF fundraiser btw.

Wonder if that would have later transpired as having any influence on why the yanks later decided to sideline Leo and declare the 17th of March 2018 as "Gerry Adams day" leaving Leo like a gooseberry.

https://twitter.com/sinnfeinireland/status/974977733573926912?s=19

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 11:29AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Given my observations of Varadkar as a human being and as a politician, I'm certain that such a person would hold Trump in utter contempt. In fact, I can't think of an Irish TD who would have admiration and respect for Trump. Can you?

So just an opinion then, as I suspected.

I don't know if there is an Irish TD who would have admiration and respect for Trump.

If I find one, I'll let you know.

Professor Moriarty · 31-07-2020 11:37AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So just an opinion then, as I suspected.

I don't know if there is an Irish TD who would have admiration and respect for Trump.

If I find one, I'll let you know.

So when you said this:

"Leo could ignore the very real and uncertain Covid dangers and head off to sate his capitalist wet dreams and see his buddy Trump?"

It was just an opinion, as I suspected. It's very obvious you don't know much about Irish politics if your opinion is that Varadkar is a "buddy" of Trump.

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 11:44AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So just an opinion then, as I suspected.

I don't know if there is an Irish TD who would have admiration and respect for Trump.

If I find one, I'll let you know.

Two people have pointed to an article with Leo view.

SF seemed to have no issue running after his for a few quid in the past.

Even when he got elected the mighty Gerry Adams had nothing back to say about him.

smurgen · 31-07-2020 11:46AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So when you said this:

"Leo could ignore the very real and uncertain Covid dangers and head off to sate his capitalist wet dreams and see his buddy Trump?"

It was just an opinion, as I suspected. It's very obvious you don't know much about Irish politics if your opinion is that Varadkar is a "buddy" of Trump.

Sure didn't he joke about fixing the windfarm planning application for trump after trump called him directly.

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 11:48AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So when you said this:

"Leo could ignore the very real and uncertain Covid dangers and head off to sate his capitalist wet dreams and see his buddy Trump?"

It was just an opinion, as I suspected. It's very obvious you don't know much about Irish politics if your opinion is that Varadkar is a "buddy" of Trump.

Well he is more of a 'buddy' of his than I am.
And you do realise I was sending up Johnny's trite opinion that anyone who is Socialist has 'wet dreams about Cuba and Venezula'. I even quoted Johnny in that post.

StackSteevens · 31-07-2020 11:51AM

smurgen wrote: »

Remember when it was imperatives that we got a Government together but not a unity government because of all the immediate emergency stuff coming up? The need for a strong and stable government right? They must have done some work to say they can still take this break so soon.

https://twitter.com/rte/status/1289085484111745024?s=19

Evidently you're under the delusion that a TD's main work is done in the Dáil chamber. It isn't - it's done either in Oireachtas Committees which will continue to sit - or, sadly, back home at constituency clinics and funerals!

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 11:53AM

smurgen wrote: »

Sure didn't he joke about fixing the windfarm planning application for trump after trump called him directly.

While we talk about planning:

I do find this funny

Sinn Féin's justice spokesperson Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire said: "There is no way that politicians should intervene in the planning process by way of phone calls and backdoor interference."s

then

Sinn Féin TD Reada Cronin and her husband built a €1m home without full planning permission, and then sought help from a sitting minister to be allowed keep it.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30983512.html

:P:P:P:P
Which is it lads?

Professor Moriarty · 31-07-2020 11:54AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Well he is more of a 'buddy' of his than I am.
And you do realise I was sending up Johnny's trite opinion that anyone who is Socialist has 'wet dreams about Cuba and Venezula'. I even quoted Johnny in that post.

As a government politician, he has no choice but to be respectful and civil to POTUS. The idea that this translates into being his buddy is nonsensical. Johnny said "Paul Murphy" not "anyone who is a Socialist". But I take your point.

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 11:59AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

As a government politician, he has no choice but to be respectful and civil to POTUS.

I never said anything different and actually defended the Paddy's Day jaunt here on this site.

The idea that this translates into being his buddy is nonsensical. Johnny said "Paul Murphy" not "anyone who is a Socialist". But I take your point.

And the point of that satirical post was to 'infer' that he was a 'buddy' in the same way the poster 'inferred' that because somebody was socialist they were having 'wet dreams about Cuba etc.'

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