FF/FG/Green Next Government

Snow Garden · 31-07-2020 09:52AM

The government usually take a longer summer break to be fair. Much too long. I do think FFG need to go and regroup after the worst start to a government in living memory. They need to strengthen this arranged marriage and learn to communicate.

Maybe they will do a U-turn on the holidays and come back earlier to address the real problems facing the country as we sink further into recession.

Limpy · 31-07-2020 09:56AM

Snow Garden wrote: »

The government usually take a longer summer break to be fair. Much too long. I do think FFG need to go and regroup after the worst start to a government in living memory. They need to strengthen this arranged marriage and learn to communicate.

Maybe they will do a U-turn on the holidays and come back earlier to address the real problems facing the country as we sink further into recession.

We came out of a recession before. They are for us sucker's to scrape our way out of and fix. People still voted for the same clowns again.

Scoondal · 31-07-2020 10:33AM

What other Fine Gael T.D.s are embarrassed to be members of Dail Eireann I wonder ?

Limpy · 31-07-2020 10:54AM

It also looks like HH has 6 weeks to get her story straight.

McMurphy · 31-07-2020 11:07AM

Limpy wrote: »

It also looks like HH has 6 weeks to get her story straight.

Which story?

There's a few that immediately spring to mind to be fair.

is_that_so · 31-07-2020 11:12AM

circadian wrote: »

I know everyone needs a break at some point but 6 weeks in the middle of everything going to **** is taking the hand.

Everything is not going to pot, apart from the 'skool' plan. Phase 4/5 is a Cabinet decision and there's no massive urgency to be there for anything else. Remember we're still in pandemic mode, even if it's an eased version of it.

smurgen · 31-07-2020 11:15AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So you take no holidays every year?

Are you saying if another party was in government they wouldn’t take holidays either?

I take it when we're quiet. And if we're busy or something big comes up we reschedule oh and it's definitely not 6 consecutive weeks.

is_that_so · 31-07-2020 11:16AM

Limpy wrote: »

We came out of a recession before. They are for us sucker's to scrape our way out of and fix. People still voted for the same clowns again.

Some clowns are better than other clowns, as a glance across the Conference Centre will show you. People just vote, a lot of the time that helps choose the government. These last couple of elections the politicians have had to make it up, so it's not entirely their fault.

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 11:28AM

circadian wrote: »

I know everyone needs a break at some point but 6 weeks in the middle of everything going to **** is taking the hand.

As far as I know most of the European governments are also taking a break now.

If they hold off and then take a break later in the year when the rest of the governments are at work imagine the up roar then?

To be honest at this stage its fairly childish the carry on of people. Damned if you do and damned if you don't is the attitude.

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 11:29AM

smurgen wrote: »

I take it when we're quiet. And if we're busy or something big comes up we reschedule oh and it's definitely not 6 consecutive weeks.

Great idea, when exactly is Ireland "quiet"?

blanch152 · 31-07-2020 11:34AM

smurgen wrote: »

I take it when we're quiet. And if we're busy or something big comes up we reschedule oh and it's definitely not 6 consecutive weeks.

To be fair, while the Dail won't be sitting and the likes of Paul "Foghorn" Murphy will get a rest, the Cabinet will still be working away preparing for the October budget and the estimates. It won't be full-on but any of them will be lucky if they get two days in a row of no meetings and phonecalls.

If any ire is be directed anywhere, it should be at the opposition who have nothing to do and will do nothing as always while the Ministers and junior Ministers will keep working away during this period.

McMurphy · 31-07-2020 11:35AM

blanch152 wrote: »

To be fair, while the Dail won't be sitting and the likes of Paul "Foghorn" Murphy will get a rest, the Cabinet will still be working away preparing for the October budget and the estimates. It won't be full-on but any of them will be lucky if they get two days in a row of no meetings and phonecalls.

If any ire is be directed anywhere, it should be at the opposition who have nothing to do and will do nothing as always while the Ministers and junior Ministers will keep working away during this period.

Some of them will be putting in 160hr weeks blanch.

JohnnyFlash · 31-07-2020 11:35AM

blanch152 wrote: »

To be fair, while the Dail won't be sitting and the likes of Paul "Foghorn" Murphy will get a rest, the Cabinet will still be working away preparing for the October budget and the estimates. It won't be full-on but any of them will be lucky if they get two days in a row of no meetings and phonecalls.

If any ire is be directed anywhere, it should be at the opposition who have nothing to do and will do nothing as always while the Ministers and junior Ministers will keep working away during this period.

Paul Murphy won’t be able to visit Cuba or Venezuela this year to see his socialist wet dreams in reality.

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 11:39AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Paul Murphy won’t be able to visit Cuba or Venezuela this year to see his socialist wet dreams in reality.

But Leo could ignore the very real and uncertain Covid dangers and head off to sate his capitalist wet dreams and see his buddy Trump?

Jaysus Johnny. :rolleyes:

Professor Moriarty · 31-07-2020 11:48AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

But Leo could ignore the very real and uncertain Covid dangers and head off to sate his capitalist wet dreams and see his buddy Trump?

Jaysus Johnny. :rolleyes:

Nobody on planet Earth thinks that Varadkar has anything but contempt for Trump.

McMurphy · 31-07-2020 11:49AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Paul Murphy won’t be able to visit Cuba or Venezuela this year to see his socialist wet dreams in reality.

They're not on the green list?

He could in theory still go, but he'd have to self isolate for 14days on his return, the same as Michaél Martin was supposed to do when he got back from Belgium (also not on the green list)

Murphy might actually do what Michaél did not though.

KiKi III · 31-07-2020 11:57AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Great idea, when exactly is Ireland "quiet"?

Normally at this time of year, when there's no pandemic and the impact of Brexit isn't imminent.

With all that going on, they could say "we might just take the month this year folks".

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 11:58AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Nobody on planet Earth thinks that Varadkar has anything but contempt for Trump.

Didn't stop him have a wee jaunt over when Covid fears were very real and uncertain. Lure of the PR glare was too much.

Not seeing any signs of his 'contempt' either, but then I have to admit I haven't researched it too much.

Professor Moriarty · 31-07-2020 12:01PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Didn't stop him have a wee jaunt over when Covid fears were very real and uncertain. Lure of the PR glare was too much.

Not seeing any signs of his 'contempt' either, but then I have to admit I haven't researched it too much.

He went over because he had to as head of government. Are you seriously suggesting a person like Varadkar would actually admire a person like Trump?

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 12:10PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

He went over because he had to as head of government. Are you seriously suggesting a person like Varadkar would actually admire a person like Trump?

I don't know, is what I said.

What signs of his 'contempt' can you point to?

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 12:11PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

He went over because he had to as head of government. Are you seriously suggesting a person like Varadkar would actually admire a person like Trump?

Nothing about any of these posts are "serious"

Just more bile from a certain group.

Interesting to see other political leaders have no issues jumping at the chance to meet Trump even when not the head of government :P

https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-think-in-trump-4216439-Sep2018/

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 12:12PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I don't know, is what I said.

What signs of his 'contempt' can you point to?

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/president-trump/leo-varadkar-criticises-donald-trump-over-absence-of-moral-leadership-in-response-to-us-protests-39259802.html

JohnnyFlash · 31-07-2020 12:15PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I don't know, is what I said.

What signs of his 'contempt' can you point to?

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/president-trump/leo-varadkar-criticises-donald-trump-over-absence-of-moral-leadership-in-response-to-us-protests-39259802.html

There ya go, dude.

Donald Trump was invited to, and attended, a SF fundraiser btw.

ronivek · 31-07-2020 12:16PM

I mean if arrogance is the worst you can say about one of our senior Government politicians then we’re not doing too bad. Take a look across the pond if you want to see what mindless populism gets you.

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 12:18PM

Gerry and the lads had a nice event with Trump
https://www.thejournal.ie/sinn-fein-trump-fundraiser-donation-3490342-Jul2017/

Of course we can all believe SF when they say he didn't donate

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 12:21PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/president-trump/leo-varadkar-criticises-donald-trump-over-absence-of-moral-leadership-in-response-to-us-protests-39259802.html

There ya go, dude.

Donald Trump was invited to, and attended, a SF fundraiser btw.

If you guys could take the deflection glasses off for a sec...just a wee sec, you would see that I wasn't criticising him for meeting Trump at all, but the timing of his meeting Trump.

You are that busy ducking and diving and pointing at themuns over there on a FG thread you must have missed that.

Shefwedfan · 31-07-2020 12:26PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If you guys could take the deflection glasses off for a sec...just a wee sec, you would see that I wasn't criticising him for meeting Trump at all, but the timing of his meeting Trump.

You are that busy ducking and diving and pointing at themuns over there on a FG thread you must have missed that.

:P

Pure comedy you are Francie

Professor Moriarty · 31-07-2020 12:27PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I don't know, is what I said.

What signs of his 'contempt' can you point to?

Given my observations of Varadkar as a human being and as a politician, I'm certain that such a person would hold Trump in utter contempt. In fact, I can't think of an Irish TD who would have admiration and respect for Trump. Can you?

McMurphy · 31-07-2020 12:28PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/president-trump/leo-varadkar-criticises-donald-trump-over-absence-of-moral-leadership-in-response-to-us-protests-39259802.html

There ya go, dude.

Donald Trump was invited to, and attended, a SF fundraiser btw.

Wonder if that would have later transpired as having any influence on why the yanks later decided to sideline Leo and declare the 17th of March 2018 as "Gerry Adams day" leaving Leo like a gooseberry.

https://twitter.com/sinnfeinireland/status/974977733573926912?s=19

FrancieBrady · 31-07-2020 12:29PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Given my observations of Varadkar as a human being and as a politician, I'm certain that such a person would hold Trump in utter contempt. In fact, I can't think of an Irish TD who would have admiration and respect for Trump. Can you?

So just an opinion then, as I suspected.

I don't know if there is an Irish TD who would have admiration and respect for Trump.

If I find one, I'll let you know.

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