FF/FG/Green Next Government

JP Liz V1 · 30-07-2020 04:47PM

Is today the last day of Dail before holidays, this "new" government has got off to an awful start

is_that_so · 30-07-2020 04:52PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is today the last day of Dail before holidays, this "new" government has got off to an awful start

Not the most auspicious of beginnings at all. Think it was supposed to wrap up today and come back in September. There's nothing more scheduled after today as far as I can see.

Truthvader · 30-07-2020 04:53PM

is_that_so wrote: »

The Greens may well pull it down first. Neasa again, not sure what side she's on!

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/0730/1156516-neasa-vote/

Another little twit looking for attention

James Brown · 30-07-2020 05:04PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Do we really need another left wing party?

The Social Democrats sort of fills that void along with People Before Profit etc.

A Left Green Party perhaps.

A Green party with some sense of ethics and a care for the tax payer. Not all Green 'solutions' need be heavy on taxation. To cite my old pal Enda, it's as much to do with 'changing the way we do business'.

LawBoy2018 · 30-07-2020 05:51PM

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1288894100188606465

Nice one, Joe! Maybe the Greens might redeem themselves?

ExMachina1000 · 30-07-2020 05:57PM

If it all ends in a sf government in a post covid broken global economy itl be great craic for nobody. No Irish people anyway

Limpy · 30-07-2020 06:04PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

If it all ends in a sf government in a post covid broken global economy itl be great craic for nobody. No Irish people anyway

No a good enough reason to give other party's a free pass.

ExMachina1000 · 30-07-2020 06:08PM

Limpy wrote: »

No a good enough reason to give other party's a free pass.

Of course not. They say in Australia that you should never work for a paddy boss. They will work you hard. Our politicians are paddy bosses. It's in the Irish psyche. Greed and an idea that once in power you are better than those below you.
It's our nature.

If you want something different you will have to move because it will never ever change. It cant.

The EU are looking to push an eu wide levy which will include a tax on big tech. This will affect the cash that the exchequer collects from them. Vital money for Ireland. A tax take figure that will be higher than the total amount of vat collected this year.

Misery, austerity and tax increases. We ain't seen nothing yet

is_that_so · 30-07-2020 06:09PM

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1288894100188606465

Nice one, Joe! Maybe the Greens might redeem themselves?

If you mean pulling down the government then it's a bit better than evens at present. If you mean behaving like they are in government then they are definitely going to lose a few bodies.

Sierra Oscar · 30-07-2020 06:24PM

Hard to see how this Government will last until Christmas. Fair chance it will collapse at the budget.

LawBoy2018 · 30-07-2020 06:35PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Of course not. They say in Australia that you should never work for a paddy boss. They will work you hard. Our politicians are paddy bosses. It's in the Irish psyche. Greed and an idea that once in power you are better than those below you.
It's our nature.

If you want something different you will have to move because it will never ever change. It cant.

The EU are looking to push an eu wide levy which will include a tax on big tech. This will affect the cash that the exchequer collects from them. Vital money for Ireland. A tax take figure that will be higher than the total amount of vat collected this year.

Misery, austerity and tax increases. We ain't seen nothing yet

What a load of ring! Lol.

LawBoy2018 · 30-07-2020 06:38PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Hard to see how this Government will last until Christmas. Fair chance it will collapse at the budget.

They're being backed by almost 10 independents though which gives them more wiggle room.

KiKi III · 30-07-2020 06:44PM

Who's everyone voting for in #GE2021?

LawBoy2018 · 30-07-2020 06:45PM

This fella is actually braindead: https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/21811236

FF TDs are genuinely a different breed..

Truthvader · 30-07-2020 07:10PM

The Greens were always flakey as F. You either get the old John Gormley "whats in it for me" type or the more crazy stuff we are seeing now. Mad people are not fit to govern anything

Brendan Bendar · 30-07-2020 07:15PM

is_that_so wrote: »

The Greens may well pull it down first. Neasa again, not sure what side she's on!

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/0730/1156516-neasa-vote/

On the side of herself.

Ryan needs to to either kick her out of the party, or whip her into place.

Can’t have this shiïte going on.

StackSteevens · 30-07-2020 07:18PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Another little twit looking for attention

Precisely.

They absolutely have to kick her out of the party, because if they don't then there'll be Green TDs voting against the whip whenever their waters or horoscope tells them to.

StackSteevens · 30-07-2020 07:20PM

KiKi III wrote: »

Who's everyone voting for in #GE2021?

Anyone but the IRA, the Greens or the Soc Dems.

Maybe Alan Kelly's duds deserve a chance.

Fann Linn · 30-07-2020 07:20PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is today the last day of Dail before holidays, this "new" government has got off to an awful start

Nope. This is a great start.

Brendan Bendar · 30-07-2020 07:24PM

StackSteevens wrote: »

Precisely.

They absolutely have to kick her out of the party, because if they don't then there'll be Green TDs voting against the whip whenever their waters or horoscope tells them to.

Yes.... a lot of folk who were in opposition and spending the fruit of the ‘money tree’ like there was no tomorrow,now realizing they are playing ‘senior hurling’

Some of the ‘leaders’ need to grow a set and shunt these ‘individuals’ out.

The need to realise they are now plAying for a team, not a la carte players.

Ryan needs to act....and act fast.

LawBoy2018 · 30-07-2020 07:27PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Yes.... a lot of folk who were in opposition and spending the fruit of the ‘money tree’ like there was no tomorrow,now realizing they are playing ‘senior hurling’

Some of the ‘leaders’ need to grow a set and shunt these ‘individuals’ out.

The need to realise they are now plAying for a team, not a la carte players.

Ryan needs to act....and act fast.

Ryan is a greedy coward who would drop Hourigan in a heartbeat, but Martin would never allow it.

The Bill put forward today was a farce and Hourigan was right to call it out for what it was.

ExMachina1000 · 30-07-2020 07:28PM

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

What a load of ring! Lol.

EU are looking to introduce eu wide tax levy on big tech, plastics and something else I can't remember

Austerity and tax increases will be required to collect and pay back loans on time.

Dont work for a paddy

Truthvader · 30-07-2020 07:41PM

StackSteevens wrote: »

Anyone but the IRA, the Greens or the Soc Dems.

Maybe Alan Kelly's duds deserve a chance.

Love to see Labour get their act together but dont think Alan is the man. But cant think of anyone else. The left is totally fragmented and distracted with loons and charlatans. Plus the Sinn Fein fascist party inserted in the middle of it all sucking up votes which will always be wasted. Hard to see how or who could unify the left into any kind of rational alternative

Shefwedfan · 30-07-2020 07:43PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Of course not. They say in Australia that you should never work for a paddy boss. They will work you hard. Our politicians are paddy bosses. It's in the Irish psyche. Greed and an idea that once in power you are better than those below you.
It's our nature.

What are you talking about?

Who says in Australia not to work for an Irish boss?

Brendan Bendar · 30-07-2020 07:46PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Love to see Labour get their act together but dont think Alan is the man. But cant think of anyone else. The left is totally fragmented and distracted with loons and charlatans. Plus the Sinn Fein fascist party inserted in the middle of it all sucking up votes which will always be wasted. Hard to see how or who could unify the left into any kind of rational alternative

All too interested in holding on to their own seats,which of course they couldn’t do if in govt.

Once they would have the hard decisions to make that would be the end of them.

And there will be hard decisions to make.

Nah mate, you won’t see those coves In govt anytime soon.

They don’t want responsibility.

ExMachina1000 · 30-07-2020 07:49PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What are you talking about?

Who says in Australia not to work for an Irish boss?

I'm talking about your financial future. Or lack of it .
I'm talking about the terrible eu budget result for Ireland.

I'm talking real life.

Anyone with a bit of experience about them

Fann Linn · 30-07-2020 07:49PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

All too interested in holding on to their own seats,which of course they couldn’t do if in govt.

Once they would have the hard decisions to make that would be the end of them.

And there will be hard decisions to make.

Nah mate, you won’t see those coves In govt anytime soon.

They don’t want responsibility.

Just as well Brenners we have all those responsible and experienced lads in govt so.

Brendan Bendar · 30-07-2020 07:59PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Just as well Brenners we have all those responsible and experienced lads in govt so.

Not showing it so far, Stay, have to agree there.

ExMachina1000 · 30-07-2020 08:24PM

Proportional representation is not best for our country .

"Small Parties Get Too Many Concessions in Coalition Governments

Critics of PR are also concerned that small parties may exercise undo power in the ruling coalitions. They fear that these small parties can use their leverage to wring concessions from their larger coalition partners, perhaps resulting in the adoption of radical policies not supported by most voters"

Sound familiar

Shefwedfan · 30-07-2020 08:31PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I'm talking about your financial future. Or lack of it .
I'm talking about the terrible eu budget result for Ireland.

I'm talking real life.

Anyone with a bit of experience about them

So in other words they don't say anything in Australia about working for an Irish boss?

FF/FG/Green Next Government

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