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  • #6512
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    MadYaker wrote: »
    As far as the letter of the law (and my understanding of it) goes, masks are have been recommended but there is no law compelling us to wear them so it's not on the supermarkets to enforce it. When it comes to these kinds of laws id always be in favour of giving people the chance to comply voluntarily rather than just bringing in laws and penalties for non compliance. Around where I live id say its 70% - 80% wearing them in shops now which is good enough imo.

    Pretty much it. It's mandatory, but it's not legally enforceable at the moment, so there isn't anything you can do if someone doesn't wear one. I work in an indoors retail store and that's how it is.

    Mask compliance is pretty good since the start of last week. At times you'd have nearly 95% of people wearing them, huge increase in the space of about 7-10 days. But as the evening goes on and you tend to get a younger crowd coming in mask wearing starts to taper off dramatically.


  • #6513
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,255 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    ixoy wrote: »
    Where do you live? Anecdotal again, but a colleague noted how mask usage was much higher in his home county than up in the Lidl in Ranelagh.

    Dunnes in Sandyford at lunchtime has pretty much full usage.


  • #6514
    Tork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭Tork


    Yes: to protect others
    Arghus wrote: »
    But as the evening goes on and you tend to get a younger crowd coming in mask wearing starts to taper off dramatically.

    The message about protecting others has definitely been lost on this age group. Many of them aren't bothering to socially distance either, from what I've observed.


  • #6515
    Seanergy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved
    torrevieja wrote: »
    Surprised to see nobody wearing masks in the reception room quite near each other ,

    Thought people would be made to wear masks

    I believe it’s up to each healthcare setting.

    There’s no HPSC guidance on masks in healthcare settings in the HIQA database(which is the most definitive list of guidance). It’s certainly not mandatory in the sense of actual regulation like that for masks on public transport.


  • #6516
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Arghus wrote: »
    But as the evening goes on and you tend to get a younger crowd coming in mask wearing starts to taper off dramatically.
    That could explain the much lower percentage I saw last week when I went shopping after 10pm. Granted, it was much quieter at the time.


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  • #6517
    Seanergy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved
    Chadwicks at the mo.

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    + All staff in masks, mainly cloth.


  • #6518
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,073 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Not quite sure what to make it myself:
    • People over six feet tall are more than twice as likely to be diagnosed with the coronavirus, the results of a new survey reveal
    • Height would not be a factor if the virus was only contractible through droplets, according to the report.
    • Suggest downward droplet transmission is not the only transmission mechanism and aerosol transmission is possible

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/28/people-over-6-feet-tall-are-more-likely-to-contract-coronavirus/

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #6519
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,913 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    No: I don't care enough
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Not quite sure what to make it myself:
    • People over six feet tall are more than twice as likely to be diagnosed with the coronavirus, the results of a new survey reveal
      ]

    Phew, I'm just a shade under:pac:


  • #6520
    Seanachai
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Not quite sure what to make it myself:
    • People over six feet tall are more than twice as likely to be diagnosed with the coronavirus, the results of a new survey reveal
    • Height would not be a factor if the virus was only contractible through droplets, according to the report.
    • Suggest downward droplet transmission is not the only transmission mechanism and aerosol transmission is possible

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/28/people-over-6-feet-tall-are-more-likely-to-contract-coronavirus/

    dRfbd7


  • #6521
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Yes: surgical
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Not quite sure what to make it myself:
    • People over six feet tall are more than twice as likely to be diagnosed with the coronavirus, the results of a new survey reveal
    • Height would not be a factor if the virus was only contractible through droplets, according to the report.
    • Suggest downward droplet transmission is not the only transmission mechanism and aerosol transmission is possible

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/28/people-over-6-feet-tall-are-more-likely-to-contract-coronavirus/

    What kind of nuts virus is this? More likely to get it if over 6 foot. More likely to die if overweight (and therefore in many cases short). Hmm.


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  • #6522
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Yes: valved
    Well guys, dunno how it goes in your areas, had to go to local shop straight after work today and masks nearly non existent. Three visits in 7 days, one was great and two disaster. Maybe they should start days with masks and days without :D The minute you see too many without mask, distancing is gone to the hell as well. Just my personal experience lately.


  • #6523
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,238 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    xhomelezz wrote: »
    Well guys, dunno how it goes in your areas, had to go to local shop straight after work today and masks nearly non existent. Three visits in 7 days, one was great and two disaster. Maybe they should start days with masks and days without :D The minute you see too many without mask, distancing is gone to the hell as well. Just my personal experience lately.

    Here mask wearing is certainly increasing noticeably.


  • #6524
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Yes: valved
    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Here mask wearing is certainly increasing noticeably.

    Great to hear that.


  • #6525
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    No: I don't care enough
    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Not quite sure what to make it myself:
    • People over six feet tall are more than twice as likely to be diagnosed with the coronavirus, the results of a new survey reveal
    • Height would not be a factor if the virus was only contractible through droplets, according to the report.
    • Suggest downward droplet transmission is not the only transmission mechanism and aerosol transmission is possible

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/28/people-over-6-feet-tall-are-more-likely-to-contract-coronavirus/

    So do short people not breath air then? Why would it being aerosol mean that it effects taller people more? If it floats up or down will depend on the airflow in the environment... Unless the aerosol particles are like hot air balloons and have a gas burner on board as well so they only float upwards.


  • #6526
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,238 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    robinph wrote: »
    So do short people not breath air then? Why would it being aerosol mean that it effects taller people more? If it floats up or down will depend on the airflow in the environment... Unless the aerosol particles are like hot air balloons and have a gas burner on board as well so they only float upwards.

    Correct and tall people still touch surfaces and pick up viruses that way. It's a nonsense piece. The also found that many people don't have an aunt who tap dances.


  • #6527
    Seanergy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Seanergy


    Yes: valved
    Turns out Ireland's first batch of FFP2 grade masks from China this year were bogus.

    The ingenious manufacturer referred to here is Irema, they were tied up in contract's with other EU countries as HSE were slow of the block.

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  • #6528
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Yes: to protect others
    robinph wrote: »
    So do short people not breath air then? Why would it being aerosol mean that it effects taller people more? If it floats up or down will depend on the airflow in the environment... Unless the aerosol particles are like hot air balloons and have a gas burner on board as well so they only float upwards.

    There's this thing called convection right.
    It's mental hear me out.
    When you breath out the air is hotter than the ambient air so it floats up and around via an invisible force!
    I know right mental!
    It's convection.
    That's why we have rads. Totally Rad.
    Science is cool (get it)

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  • #6529
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    No: I don't care enough
    caveat emptor wrote: »
    There's this thing called convection right.
    It's mental hear me out.
    When you breath out the air is hotter than the ambient air so it floats up and around via an invisible force!
    I know right mental!
    It's convection.
    That's why we have rads. Totally Rad.
    Science is cool (get it)

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    Then where does the air go once it reaches the ceiling, seeing as we're indoors because transmission outside is minimal or non existant. If they can show ceilings covered in the virus and the floors clear of it then they might have something.

    I don't tend to normally have a short person sat under my work desk breathing up at me and there was a previous study I'd seen in relation to a group of cases in South Korea which showed the seating plan in a restaurant and the flow from the air conditioning system.

    They may be right about people being over 6ft having a higher incidence of infection, and also about the aerosols. But I really can't see how the two things are related. It just a coincidence.


  • #6530
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Yes: to protect others
    robinph wrote: »
    Then where does the air go once it reaches the ceiling, seeing as we're indoors because transmission outside is minimal or non existant. If they can show ceilings covered in the virus and the floors clear of it then they might have something.

    I don't tend to normally have a short person sat under my work desk breathing up at me and there was a previous study I'd seen in relation to a group of cases in South Korea which showed the seating plan in a restaurant and the flow from the air conditioning system.

    They may be right about people being over 6ft having a higher incidence of infection, and also about the aerosols. But I really can't see how the two things are related. It just a coincidence.

    Yeah can't help you on that one buddy. It is a startling headline. You'd really need a proper investigation / study.

    Airflow / aircon huge factors as regards respiratory infections. If in doubt crack a window.

    Someone will no doubt get around to figuring it out.


  • #6531
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,202 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    No: other
    I remember seeing a similar "study" a while back that said short people were the most likely to get infected. Take what you will.


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  • #6532
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Are you quoting posts from March? Not my business but there'll be an awful lot of catching up to do...


  • #6533
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Yes: valved
    New account, probably just need to catch up on calendar


  • #6534
    Tim Robbins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    Yes: valved
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Same.

    As for exemptions, I have severe asthma and still wear a mask. I cope. If anything, having asthma is all the more reason to take every precaution you can against Covid19.

    As far as I'm aware, the virus doesn't read letters and won't bypass me by because of an eligibility for exemption from wearing masks.
    Also asthmatic and have avoided shops because of idiots who won't wear them. I may enter them now if there is good compliance with people wearing them.

    Yeah they are uncomfortable and not great for asthmatics but you only have the thing on for 10 mins and the ones you buy rather than the ones you make generally are way easier to breath with.

    I would much rather wear one and be uncomfortable for a short time knowing that if people wear these things they are less risk to each other.


  • #6535
    cathalj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭cathalj


    Yes: surgical
    Hi,
    Everyone seems to be making and selling reusable face masks/coverings these days.
    Hard to know which ones to buy.
    I need to get a few more, so looking for recommendations for good quality, decent value ones . Thanks.


  • #6536
    _Godot_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 902 ✭✭✭_Godot_


    Yes: surgical
    I got mine online from boots. They have both reusable and disposable ones.


  • #6537
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Thread here . I got 6 masks and 2 pair of socks (to get free shipping) for about 27 quid, find them pretty comfortable.


  • #6538
    Paddygreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Do you know that the virus can enter your body via your eyes? A mask is useless if a viral droplet lands on your eyeballs. High time that face visors were made mandatory along with masks especially with a Christmas shopping just around the corner. Btw people you should don your masks BEFORE you arrive at a stores entrance.


  • #6539
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    Do you know that the virus can enter your body via your eyes? A mask is useless if a viral droplet lands on your eyeballs. High time that face visors were made mandatory along with masks especially with a Christmas shopping just around the corner. Btw people you should don your masks BEFORE you arrive at a stores entrance.

    Lets just stop beating around the bush and go full Hazmat suit for all


  • #6540
    corsav6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭corsav6


    Are masks even mandatory? Plenty of people not wearing them in shops.


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  • #6541
    Paddygreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    I am trying to promote safety. Visors just in case is a good idea and FYI are a proven to be effective. Time our government took this on board. We can’t be too careful when there is a deadly virus in the air looking for hosts.


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