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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95



    Fantastic to see it's working, that's a very high number when you take into account our confirmed cases the last few weeks.

    This is the kind of pro-active measure that will allow us to live alongside the virus.

    I just wish people would take their tin foil hats off in regards to the app though. Like even people I know who are well educated and should really know better have concerns over privacy yet they're on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and by default will click "allow cookies" on any crappy website they are on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,461 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths



    Making it up as they go along, not exactly inspiring leadership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Making it up as they go along, not exactly inspiring leadership.

    Really unexpected stuff from Fianna Fail :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,106 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey



    Everyone is giving out about the people on the covid payment, they missed the real story, Public Service employees going on holidays to non green list countries. If anyone should be stopped for taking the piss it's them as there on full pay working from home and going against their employers advice.
    Shocking they got a free pass with this story.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,346 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Gauging whatever way the wind (public opinion) blows then ape that. Its quite pathetic but they're the guys we voted into power. Don't blame them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Really unexpected stuff from Fianna Fail :D

    FG/ Greens are there aswell. I thought Leo would have more cop on. Clearly not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Really unexpected stuff from Fianna Fail :D

    Em, the minister responsible for the decision is Heather Humphreys (Fine Gael)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭robbiezero


    FG/ Greens are there aswell. I thought Leo would have more cop on. Clearly not.

    I'm not sure Leo is too unhappy that FF and MM are taking most of the flak for the Government screw-ups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Em, the minister responsible for the decision is Heather Humphreys (Fine Gael)

    Its a FF led government, they’re responsible for decisions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Its a FF led government, they’re responsible for decisions.


    It's a coalition, involving 3 parties, and FF/FG are pretty much equal partners. The particular minister , a member of FG, made a bad decision. But, if you wish to blame FF for all bad decisions, fire ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,412 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Its a FF led government, they’re responsible for decisions.


    Can we not agree that they are both a shambles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Can we not agree that they are both a shambles?

    They are yeah but saying all of this is FGs fault is wrong. FF are a disaster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Feel so weird saying this, but bring back Varadkar and Harris plz.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    kg703 wrote: »
    Just on the antibody testing, I would't be so sure its accurate anyway..... My sister in law was a confirmed case back in ... March I think. She paid privately for the antibody test there last month - doesnt have the antibodies apparently. So either:

    Her C19 test was not accurate (she had and still has lingering symptoms)
    Her antibody test is not accurate
    You can catch the virus again - within 3-4 months

    What make you think the test is not accurate? test can still be accurate but the patient is the problem. Its always been that way even when I worked in Serum work area or Molecular a pathologist might query a flyer and order a rerun of the same sample on a different platform and get same result... do another collection few days later and get a different result ..problem is the patient not the equipment that's why doctors use their experience to persist in follow up recollection and testing if they really believe that's the best line.

    even in Sonography and Tomography all patients can scan differently just the variables we have to deal with.


    Your sister-in-law probably already cleared the infection, the lingering symptoms is probably just the long term damage the disease causes to the body.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    But, if you wish to blame FF for all bad decisions, fire ahead.

    Solid advice to be fair.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Everyone is giving out about the people on the covid payment, they missed the real story, Public Service employees going on holidays to non green list countries. If anyone should be stopped for taking the piss it's them as there on full pay working from home and going against their employers advice.
    Shocking they got a free pass with this story.

    They're not talking about public service employees going on holidays AND getting paid at the same time surely, that's not what you mean is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    iguana wrote: »
    I know a couple of people in the UK who were confirmed cases in March and tested negative on antibody lab tests. Lots of people online say similar. There was also the very tiny study that showed a number of people with negative antibody tests having T-Cell changes that indicated they'd recovered from infection. The antibody tests really do seem to be missing positive cases.

    Antibody tests only test for antibodies, antibodies can wane over time and at different rates in different people. If you are not presenting antibodies its not the fault of the test its just a part of life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    wadacrack wrote: »
    I said could. Its a fair assumption based on what we are seeing. Their is credible sources on youtube btw. Chris Masterson has been a very credible source on this. Predicted it back in January and and largely been very accurate on his reporting of what has been happening.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/monumental-acknowledgment-cdc-reports-long-term-covid-19-patients-n1234814

    It was reported by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It may not be what many want to hear but it seems the reality of this virus.
    People tend not to see the word could and take reports as gospel. Again, the point is six months is not long term. There are a whole lot of studies out there claiming that they know what the long effects will be, when they can only guess.
    I can't say that YouTube and credible in the same sentence work for me, unless they are showing me how to do something!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Antibody tests only test for antibodies, antibodies can wane over time and at different rates in different people. If you are not presenting antibodies its not the fault of the test its just a part of life.

    Just make sure you have an approved test though, in the US there was over 100 different tests for sale at one point, and >50% of them had shocking accuracy.


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  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's a coalition, involving 3 parties, and FF/FG are pretty much equal partners. The particular minister , a member of FG, made a bad decision. But, if you wish to blame FF for all bad decisions, fire ahead.

    FF have definitely shifted the collective balance of cabinet to a more reactionary, scattergun approach


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    when do we next get to vote on these useless chancers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    is_that_so wrote: »
    People tend not to see the word could and take reports as gospel. Again, the point is six months is not long term. There are a whole lot of studies out there claiming that they know what the long effects will be, when they can only guess.
    I can't say that YouTube and credible in the same sentence work for me, unless they are showing me how to do something!

    He used an article from Centers for Disease Control and Prevention its obviously a credible source. Six months is being labelled as long haulers by medial experts. You can only guess about anything int the future btw. Making educated judgements/analysis is what they are doing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    FF have definitely shifted the collective balance of cabinet to a more reactionary, scattergun approach

    Heather Humphreys has been particularly scattergun on this issue.


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Heather Humphreys has been particularly scattergun on this issue.

    Individual ministers are implementing collective cabinet policy. She is not an individual I have ever been overly impressed with however


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes



    There is nothing particularly exceptional or unique about Covid-19.

    Well that made me laugh. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    seamus wrote: »
    Indeed. We have nearly 17 million infections globally, and sporadic (at best) reports of reinfection.

    There is nothing to indicate that immunity is not possible or that it's short-lived.

    17 milllion FIRST infections globally. We havent had time to determine 2nd infection possible yet. We dont even know if the virus clears the body completely et.

    There is no proof either way.
    Id be watching sweden.
    In sept when the schools go back.

    We should know by nov if secondary reinfection (as is common with other coronaviruses) is a danger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It's a coalition, involving 3 parties, and FF/FG are pretty much equal partners. The particular minister , a member of FG, made a bad decision. But, if you wish to blame FF for all bad decisions, fire ahead.
    FF are setting the tone and it's unquestionably a firmer one. Having a whole load of complete newbies in government is not helping, especially when they don't really have much of a clue what they intend to do, apart from spend lots. One would have to wonder just how much autonomy some of them are getting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Feel so weird saying this, but bring back Varadkar and Harris plz.

    Do you honestly think Harris going to leave the nice cushy ministry that was invented for him?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    schmoo2k wrote: »
    Just make sure you have an approved test though, in the US there was over 100 different tests for sale at one point, and >50% of them had shocking accuracy.

    The only tests I talk about is CLIA or ECLIA technology, I dont regard those rapid shit that gets all the retards foaming at the mouth as real tests.


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