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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Another one for the flu-bros... the guys who think that 'it's only a flu' and that it's OK for people to die from Covid-19 “because maybe they weren’t healthy to begin with”.

    "Stephen Cameron, age 42, a Scottish pilot from Motherwell, was Vietnam's sickest patient and became known nationwide as Patient 91.

    He spent 68 days on a ventilator - most of which he was also reliant on an Ecmo machine, a form of life support only used in the most extreme cases.

    Mr Cameron narrowly avoided a double lung transplant when his lung capacity fell to 10%. He also suffered multiple organ failure and lost 30kg (4.7 stone) in weight while in a coma, and is still struggling to walk despite extensive rehab."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-53544345

    For every one of those, there are 98 others which have have been fine.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    igCorcaigh wrote: »

    Never heard so much about Karoke as I have in last few months!

    How anyone wants to spit down a mic used by multiple people in the middle of a pandemic is beyond me!


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    For every one of those, there are 98 others which have have been find.

    I'd say 998 others!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    I see the 'flu-bros' are self identifying now !

    r99_0_1774_1181_w1200_h678_fmax.jpg

    ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭big syke


    How exactly do you know that? With what's happening inside the body. People can have very dangerous levels of low oxygen without even knowing and feeling absolutely fine.

    It's been reported even mild cases can have lasting effects as well. So it's not harmless for the majority of people.

    I have never seen someone spouting such crap. Honestly.

    First start by looking up a dictionary and seeing what Majority means. Second read the below. I presume the WHO is a good enough source for you?

    https://www.who.int/westernpacific/emergencies/covid-19/information/severity


    "While COVID-19 is spreading rapidly, most people will experience only mild or moderate symptoms."

    "Most people infected with COVID-19 will only have mild symptoms and fully recover. Yet, some people are more at risk."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    You’d wanna be a proper level of idiot to organise a karaoke party during covid


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Three months ago was the time for people to take this seriously when we knew a lot less about the virus and when everyone in Ireland suddenly needed their 5km walk.
    Now we know much more about the virus and that most people who are infected will make a full recovery but people are more ocd now than they were 3 months ago.

    What next, will lockdown for flu season?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    I'm not crazy lads, I dont believe the 5g theory, I dont believe the virus was made in a lab. I simply believe the facts that this virus is completely harmless for the vast majority of people.

    I was happy with the restrictions to flatten the curve and give hospitals a chance to prepare.

    We've done that. It's now time to start living with the virus and getting on with life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,550 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    You’d wanna be a proper level of idiot to organise a karaoke party during covid


    somebody in Kilbarrack is had atleast 2 karaoke parties, I can hear it on my walks, not sure which house though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Three months ago was the time for people to take this seriously when we knew a lot less about the virus and when everyone in Ireland suddenly needed their 5km walk.
    Now we know much more about the virus and that most people who are infected will make a full recovery but people are more ocd now than they were 3 months ago.

    What next, will lockdown for flu season?
    Flu was virtually non existent in the Southern Hemisphere because of social distancing and masks.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-23/coronavirus-restrictions-cause-flu-cases-to-drop-australia/12480190


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,853 ✭✭✭quokula


    For every one of those, there are 98 others which have have been fine.

    Given that the death rate in Ireland stands at 4%, if we assume roughly the same number of people suffer severe symptoms but survive, then it's much closer to 9 others that have been fine, than 98 others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    quokula wrote: »
    Given that the death rate in Ireland stands at 4%, if we assume roughly the same number of people suffer severe symptoms but survive, then it's much closer to 9 others that have been fine, than 98 others.

    The death rate in Ireland is probably 10-15 times less than 4%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    quokula wrote: »
    Given that the death rate in Ireland stands at 4%, if we assume roughly the same number of people suffer severe symptoms but survive, then it's much closer to 9 others that have been fine, than 98 others.

    Death rate is nowhere near 4% once you take into account mild or asymptomatic cases (especially in March and April when the testing criteria were very specific) who were never tested to confirm the virus and the admission that deaths have likely been overestimated.

    I don't think people realize how many here had it in March and April that will never be confirmed as testing was a mess back then and the virus was utterly rampant in the community.

    Now that testing is absolutely excellent, the virus is virtually extinct. In that regard, things were kind of done backwards but a lot had to be done in a very short space of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Death rate is nowhere near 4% once you take into account mild or asymptomatic cases (especially in March and April when the testing criteria were very specific) who were never tested to confirm the virus and the admission that deaths have likely been overestimated.

    I don't think people realize how many here had it in March and April that will never be confirmed as testing was a mess back then and the virus was utterly rampant in the community.

    Now that testing is absolutely excellent, the virus is virtually extinct. In that regard, things were kind of done backwards but a lot had to be done in a very short space of time.

    This is a really interesting point. The virus was all over the place in April. We didn’t have the testing capacity to even pick up half of the cases. I’d estimate our likely actual case figure is probably 7-8x higher than what it is now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    There have been far more posts criticising people for saying it's only a flu than actual posts saying it's only a flu.

    And there's 20x as many people accusing people of wanting to go to the pub then there is people actually saying anything about the pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    This is a really interesting point. The virus was all over the place in April. We didn’t have the testing capacity to even pick up half of the cases. I’d estimate our likely actual case figure is probably 7-8x higher than what it is now.

    We had nowhere near the 40-50% positivity rate in April as seen in New York for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Where did this often repeated BS about supermarkets being 'safe' come from ?

    Deaths in shop workers up to 75% higher than rest of country

    "Sales assistants are significantly more likely to die from coronavirus, Matt Hancock told MPs today as he confirmed face masks would become mandatory in shops and supermarkets.

    The Health Secretary said the Covid-19 death rate among male shop workers is 75% higher than the general population, and 60% higher in women, underlining the urgent need for face coverings in public to protect the spread of coronavirus."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭v638sg7k1a92bx


    Flu was virtually non existent in the Southern Hemisphere because of social distancing and masks.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-23/coronavirus-restrictions-cause-flu-cases-to-drop-australia/12480190

    So do you think it was worth it to **** down the Australian economy so that people wouldn’t get the flu this year?

    The cure is worse than the disease.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Never heard so much about Karoke as I have in last few months!

    How anyone wants to spit down a mic used by multiple people in the middle of a pandemic is beyond me!

    Any one having a karaoke party should be locked up for life. Not related to coronavirus, just in general.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    For every one of those, there are 98 others which have have been fine.

    What is 2% of 16,482,747 ?

    That is the latest figure of reported coronavirus cases worldwide and the numbers are increasing by over 1 million every 4 days now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    wadacrack wrote: »
    We had nowhere near the 40-50% positivity rate in April as seen in New York for example.
    Big difference between here and NY though, way harder for it to spread here given population density. Either way, it's fairly obvious our cases are massively undercounted given our death rate. You don't even need to look at positivity rate and testing to know that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    So do you think it was worth it to **** down the Australian economy so that people wouldn’t get the flu this year?

    The cure is worse than the disease.
    I was referring to people who think the winter will be bad because of flu. Social distancing and masks also stop the flu, it's the same thing as trying to stop the coronavirus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Yesterday's HSE Daily Operations Update - don't think anyone posted this

    12 in hospital, increase of 1 with 2 positive tests yesterday, both in Beaumont.
    5 in ICU and 3 on ventilators, no change.

    Mater +1 (4)
    Tallaght -- (3)
    Beaumont +1 (2)
    Drogheda -- (1)
    Galway -1 (0)
    Portlaoise -- (1)
    Sligo -- (1)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE - 48 HOURS

    Tests conducted last 48 hours: 13804
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 46,922
    Positive Tests last 48 hours: 55
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 0.3%


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Big difference between here and NY though, way harder for it to spread here given population density. Either way, it's fairly obvious our cases are massively undercounted given our death rate. You don't even need to look at positivity rate and testing to know that.

    Tell this to those in rural Texas. Our death rate i a function of who got infected. While the median age is 48, this doesn't tell us what the upper quartile age is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Tell this to those in rural Texas.
    Practically all of Texas' cases are in the counties surrounding Dallas and Houston.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/texas-coronavirus-cases.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    LATEST TESTING UPDATE - 48 HOURS

    Tests conducted last 48 hours: 13804
    Tests conducted last 7 days: 46,922
    Positive Tests last 48 hours: 55
    Positivity Rate last 7 days: 0.3%

    Higher than i hoped for positive tests. I wonder will we have a lag like last week with alot of those 55 being announced on Tuesday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Practically all of Texas' cases are in the counties surrounding Dallas and Houston.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/texas-coronavirus-cases.html

    Starr county is a 5:30hour drive from Houston in opposite direction to Dallas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Death rate is nowhere near 4% once you take into account mild or asymptomatic cases (especially in March and April when the testing criteria were very specific) who were never tested to confirm the virus and the admission that deaths have likely been overestimated.
    Our death rate was probably skewed also because it got into multiple nursing homes - the rate is going to depend on who gets it. The Covid death rate starts increasing pretty rapidly after about 50 years old.
    Now that testing is absolutely excellent, the virus is virtually extinct.
    I understand what you're saying, but I'm wary of language like this. The virus will spread rapidly from even a single source if given the opportunity. It might be circulating at a low rate now, but we know there are likely to be people out there today who are unaware they have it and going about their daily lives. Limiting our social contacts, distancing, masks etc. are giving us a chance to defeat it.


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