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Cavanjack · 23-07-2020 08:38PM

Panch18 wrote: »

Thanks Bass - that's what i was thinking but then someone said to me that you couldn't sell them on straight again

Think you can do it up to a certain number before you need a dealers licence. I though the number was 100 a year within 30 days of purchase but I could be wrong. After that you need a dealers licence. Separate yard etc.

morphy87 · 23-07-2020 09:35PM

memorystick wrote: »

The experts are being proven wrong. Could soon hit €4

Where are you hearing this? I hope your right, there is a lot of confidence around the ring anyway, the 4 Euro does that include the bonus?

Base price · 23-07-2020 10:31PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Think you can do it up to a certain number before you need a dealers licence. I though the number was 100 a year within 30 days of purchase but I could be wrong. After that you need a dealers licence. Separate yard etc.

I think it's a 100 within 30 days (buying in and selling out) in any 12 month period.

Anto_Meath · 23-07-2020 10:42PM

I am hearing agents offering €4 / kg all in flat for hex & AAx bullocks & 5 cent more for heifers to secure loads for next week.

Cavanjack · 23-07-2020 10:49PM

Anto_Meath wrote: »

I am hearing agents offering €4 / kg all in flat for hex & AAx bullocks & 5 cent more for heifers to secure loads for next week.

For dairy bred aa and hex it’s not too bad but for an r grading animal it’s still €3.70 base. Good to see it going in the right direction but wonder what September and October will bring.

morphy87 · 23-07-2020 11:34PM

Anto_Meath wrote: »

I am hearing agents offering €4 / kg all in flat for hex & AAx bullocks & 5 cent more for heifers to secure loads for next week.

Good to hear that, they might rise another bit hopefully

morphy87 · 23-07-2020 11:37PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

For dairy bred aa and hex it’s not too bad but for an r grading animal it’s still €3.70 base. Good to see it going in the right direction but wonder what September and October will bring.

Do you reckon numbers will stay tight till mid September? I was talking to an agent yesterday and he said either it’s to early for grass cattle or there not in it, you would imagine cattle should be coming fit early with the year is in it

Base price · 24-07-2020 12:46AM

Cavanjack wrote: »

For dairy bred aa and hex it’s not too bad but for an r grading animal it’s still €3.70 base. Good to see it going in the right direction but wonder what September and October will bring.

A good number of 2019 born dairy (FR/FRx) and dairy/beef cross bulls have gone to the North or on the boat in the past few weeks.
We got a good few away within the month to a Northern buyer. They were weighed at home and we got a guy who is approved by DAFM/ICBF. He had a download of our herd on his hand held computer thingie. When each animal went onto the scales he just had to read the tag number simular to what the Vet does when testing. Cost €2/hd plus vat and he gave us a print out that included the full tag number and weight. Other than the cost of weighing them and good rattle of luck money, we agreed that we would transport them FOC to any of the approved export marts within our location.
Edit to say - I don't like that our cattle are sent live on the hoof to non EU Countries that don't have the same slaughter welfare standards that we have in Ireland.

downtown3858 · 24-07-2020 09:14AM

Did your bulls go for slaughter in the north bass or feeding? What sort of money was he offering?

What about payment ?

Base price · 24-07-2020 09:20AM

downtown3858 wrote: »

Did your bulls go for slaughter in the north bass or feeding? What sort of money was he offering?

What about payment ?

They went for feeding. Payment was through the mart and the buyer paid the mart export paperwork fee. As I posted we carried the cost of transport to the mart.
It worked out well as it also covers our 5% BEAM reduction. It's seldom that I can say that rearing beef works but this year it has.

memorystick · 24-07-2020 09:47AM

Cavanjack wrote: »

For dairy bred aa and hex it’s not too bad but for an r grading animal it’s still €3.70 base. Good to see it going in the right direction but wonder what September and October will bring.

From 3.50 to 3.70 is a 6% increase. No other sector would be as excited and not even in profit territory!

Hard Knocks · 24-07-2020 10:35AM

Base price wrote: »

They went for feeding. Payment was through the mart and the buyer paid the mart export paperwork fee. As I posted we carried the cost of transport to the mart.
It worked out well as it also covers our 5% BEAM reduction. It's seldom that I can say that rearing beef works but this year it has.

Is there an age limit?
Have a 20 month CH bull

Base price · 24-07-2020 12:30PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Is there an age limit?
Have a 20 month CH bull

TBH I don't know if there is an age limit. The mart manager was saying that Northern Irish buyers are very active around the rings so you'd probably do well selling him through the mart.

Good loser · 25-07-2020 12:02AM

morphy87 wrote: »

Were you happy with how they graded? at least now the fresians qualify for the quality assurance bonus

Unusually good for my stock. two O= One O-

Bass Reeves · 25-07-2020 12:20AM

morphy87 wrote: »

Were you happy with how they graded? at least now the fresians qualify for the quality assurance bonus

This is a misconception. On the new payments O= get 4C extra but with P+ get nothing extra. The real sting may be on over 30 months where O- and P+ get nothing extra. QA is now worth 20C/kg it has really opened a gap between P+ cattle and O=/O+. A P+ bullock is now 50c/Kg behind a QA R grading animal.

DukeCaboom · 25-07-2020 09:13AM

Think the steam has run out, our local plant only killing 3 days next week. Good few Northern lads missing in kerry yesterday.

morphy87 · 25-07-2020 09:42AM

Good loser wrote: »

Unusually good for my stock. two O= One O-

Were you happy with the weights?

morphy87 · 25-07-2020 09:44AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

This is a misconception. On the new payments O= get 4C extra but with P+ get nothing extra. The real sting may be on over 30 months where O- and P+ get nothing extra. QA is now worth 20C/kg it has really opened a gap between P+ cattle and O=/O+. A P+ bullock is now 50c/Kg behind a QA R grading animal.

That’s a very big gap between an r grading animal and a p

Bass Reeves · 25-07-2020 09:51AM

morphy87 wrote: »

That’s a very big gap between an r grading animal and a p

Prices for QA under 30 month cattle at a 3.7 base
R+........3.96
R-/=......3.90
O+........3.78
O=........3.72
O-.........3.58
P+.........3.40

lexuslad · 25-07-2020 09:53AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Prices for QA under 30 month cattle at a 3.7 base
R=........3.96
R-/=......3.90
O+........3.78
O=........3.72
O-.........3.58
P+.........3.40

What are U grade bullocks making then?

epfff · 25-07-2020 11:17AM

lexuslad wrote: »

What are U grade bullocks making then?

Up 6c each step

Cavanjack · 25-07-2020 11:47AM

lexuslad wrote: »

What are U grade bullocks making then?

4.02 for a u- under 30 months

FarmerDougal · 25-07-2020 12:10PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

4.02 for a u- under 30 months

That's only 3.70 Base, making 3.80 next week

Cavanjack · 25-07-2020 12:48PM

FarmerDougal wrote: »

That's only 3.70 Base, making 3.80 next week

Haven’t got quotes this while. Have a few to go in two weeks. They might end up making money!!!

morphy87 · 25-07-2020 09:38PM

FarmerDougal wrote: »

That's only 3.70 Base, making 3.80 next week

Are they quoting 3.80 next week? Was talking to man this evening he sent off 4 Friday, he only rang the agent Thursday,he said the agent rang him after dinner today wanting to know could he pick out a load for tomorrow night, even though the cattle are not fit, he is very anxious for stock, the farmer said no he wants them to put on more flesh

Grueller · 25-07-2020 11:22PM

What are cows making atm or has anyone sold any lately?

farawaygrass · 25-07-2020 11:24PM

See the very first post on this thread-dream stuff!

DukeCaboom · 26-07-2020 05:40PM

Grueller wrote: »

What are cows making atm or has anyone sold any lately?

340 for r

Duke92 · 26-07-2020 06:56PM

€3:75 in both Waterford plants for steers one couldn’t fill kill on Friday ppl holding out for 3:80 they’ll probably have to give it this week to keep them coming

morphy87 · 26-07-2020 07:44PM

Duke92 wrote: »

€3:75 in both Waterford plants for steers one couldn’t fill kill on Friday ppl holding out for 3:80 they’ll probably have to give it this week to keep them coming

You would wonder are the cattle there to fill it? Two people that I know that would normally be starting to sell now have nothing, went down the rearing dairy heifers,

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