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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #1082
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,047 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's crazy. In most states, you won't get in trouble for drug use if you call in an overdose.. But they have people worried about some underage drinking?

    Bizarro country.


  • #1083
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    And while Italy was inevitably caught out to some extent because they were the first place with widespread transmission outside China, that was 4 months ago and the US learned nothing in the meantime.

    Its criminal imo


  • #1084
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    iguana wrote: »
    How does that work for the children of confirmed cases? If a single parent or both parents test positive where do their (seemingly) uninfected children go? The children could either be uninfected, so should be kept safe so they don't get infected. Or testing negative because their infection isn't detectable, so if they could infect whoever they go stay with. I'm pretty sure I had the virus and once I started having symptoms isolated but as a single parent, couldn't stay adequately away from my 7 year old to be sure of never infecting him. I couldn't send him to stay with anyone to protect him as he could just have been infected but pre-symptomatic at that point. He started dry-coughing and having diarrhoea less than a week after I developed breathing difficulty. He was better long before I was.

    As much as I hate that I probably infected him, I think that it was better than risking him infecting extended family. And definitely better than what he'd have gone through if he'd had to stay alone in some sort of quarantine facility. Just having the line of infection end in our house with the two of us was probably the best outcome.

    Christ, you’ve been through the mill.
    Well done for getting through it.
    Thank you for posting Your experiences and I’m very happy you are out the other side of it.

    I think the only people at risk are the ones who believe it’s a hoax.

    Your posts are authentic and couldn’t be made up.
    Best of luck.


  • #1085
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    The vaccine is the biggest carrot on a stick the world has ever seen

    I'd be willing to bet 500 euros we still won't have a working vaccine by 2022. And I'm confident I'd win the bet too

    A carrot on a stick that Oxford have had a consistent timeline on for months. What's your qualification? The boards.ie institute of bul****tery? I'm confident you're full of crap and I'd win that bet.


  • #1086
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    hmmm wrote: »
    Agreed, that's why we need both. A treatment that will help someone out when they're gasping for air in a hospital would be great, but in the ideal world none of us would have to go through that.


    Not sure what exactly you're basing that on, but good for you. I'm hoping to be getting a vaccination in Q2 of next year, possibly even earlier, and probably needing another one later in the year or in 2022 to give long-term protection.

    Some people act as if good news spreads covid they're ****ing ridiculous.


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  • #1087
    YellowBucket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭YellowBucket


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Surely it would be in everyone's best interests for police to say they will turn a blind eye to that to prevent further infection?

    It’s America. They’re unlikely to be able to do that due to a whole load of legal and cultural issues around detection of petty crime & excessively harsh punishment of said crime being far more important than the big picture. A pragmatic response over there when it comes to law enforcement is extremely rare.


  • #1088
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    A carrot on a stick that Oxford have had a consistent timeline on for months. What's your qualification? The boards.ie institute of bul****tery? I'm confident you're full of crap and I'd win that bet.

    Take it so.


  • #1089
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    I was in a garage earlier procuring a jumbo breakfast roll. There were at least 10 customers in the shop and not a single one was wearing a mask. About half of the staff were wearing either a mask or face shield.


  • #1090
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    North Korea reports its first case.
    Ten minutes later they have no cases :D

    Denotified.


  • #1091
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    GazzaL wrote: »
    I was in a garage earlier procuring a jumbo breakfast roll. There were at least 10 customers in the shop and not a single one was wearing a mask. About half of the staff were wearing either a mask or face shield.

    And still hardly any community cases despite numerous reports of this. Guess that's good.


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  • #1092
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Boggles wrote: »
    Take it so.

    Take what? I swear some people don't want a vaccine to work.


  • #1093
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,243 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    GazzaL wrote: »
    I was in a garage earlier procuring a jumbo breakfast roll. There were at least 10 customers in the shop and not a single one was wearing a mask. About half of the staff were wearing either a mask or face shield.

    And I was in a shop where everybody wore a mask. In fact, they were not allowing people in without masks.

    There are anecdotes galore on all sides. Each of us just has to go by what we ourselves experience in reality.


  • #1094
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Do people who say we wont have a vaccine until 2022 realise that government is already prepping the priority scale for distribution by the end of this year :confused:


  • #1095
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Take what? I swear some people don't want a vaccine to work.

    The bet that is being offered, the one you said you'd win, obviously.


  • #1096
    Munsterman12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭Munsterman12


    GazzaL wrote: »
    I was in a garage earlier procuring a jumbo breakfast roll. There were at least 10 customers in the shop and not a single one was wearing a mask. About half of the staff were wearing either a mask or face shield.

    If they were refused to be served then that problem would be solved easily.


  • #1097
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Do people who say we wont have a vaccine until 2022 realise that government is already prepping the priority scale for distribution by the end of this year :confused:

    The issue is having something to distribute.

    The government have to be prepared in case it is ready but it is certainly no sure thing by the end of the year.


  • #1098
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Christy42 wrote: »
    The issue is having something to distribute.

    The government have to be prepared in case it is ready but it is certainly no sure thing by the end of the year.

    Oxford is planning to launch in September. Moderna and Pfizers following by the end of the year/early 2021. And that’s without even considering the Chinese vaccines which could be even further ahead.


  • #1099
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Munsterman12 wrote: »
    If they were refused to be served then that problem would be solved easily.

    They'd be giving out a lot of free diesel. The staff didn't have a problem anyway. Live and let live. We all got fuel and breakfast rolls during lockdown anyway.


  • #1100
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Do people who say we wont have a vaccine until 2022 realise that government is already prepping the priority scale for distribution by the end of this year :confused:

    I do think it's likely at least one vaccine will be approved for emergency use by November but I would worry the efficacy data from the Oxford vaccine may be insufficient to draw a conclusion. They are very reliant on getting good data from the Brazil and South Africa trials.


  • #1101
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    seanb85 wrote: »
    Luxembourg are in the midst of a significant second wave (they have put it down to increased testing).

    Belgium have gone from about 60 - 80 cases a day a month ago to about 300 a day now (yesterday was 528).

    Netherlands infection rate has trebled in the last two weeks.

    Testing, tracing and isolation will only be effective up to a certain point, then we're back to much cruder measures to control spread. Europe is now seeing noticeable case increases and there is a real danger of going backwards in this.

    Exactly and we are still only in late July. Things have changed in many countries rather quickly. A 2nd wave in the winter worse than the first in those countries looks like it could sadly happen. I hope Ireland stay taking a more cautious approach than some other countries. Schools/Colleges and Workplaces functioning through the winter will be a huge challenge


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  • #1102
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    seanb85 wrote: »
    I do think it's likely at least one vaccine will be approved for emergency use by November but I would worry the efficacy data from the Oxford vaccine may be insufficient to draw a conclusion. They are very reliant on getting good data from the Brazil and South Africa trials.

    Prof Hill and his team seem incredibly confident the trials are going to go successfully so I don’t have any worries tbh


  • #1103
    seanb85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭seanb85


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Prof Hill and his team seem incredibly confident the trials are going to go successfully so I don’t have any worries tbh

    It is reassuring to see that level of confidence from him, I recently watched a lecture he gave on Ebola and he is impressive. I'd still be concerned that 3 months or so is a very short time frame for a phase 3 trial. In normal times you'd give it at least 2 years.


  • #1104
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    seanb85 wrote: »
    It is reassuring to see that level of confidence from him, I recently watched a lecture he gave on Ebola and he is impressive. I'd still be concerned that 3 months or so is a very short time frame for a phase 3 trial. In normal times you'd give it at least 2 years.

    This is far from normal times


  • #1105
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    The meticulous South Korean contact tracing system has one of the lowest rates for 'infections with unknown origin', at about 8%, compared to more than 50% for other countries with recent virus resurgences. Ours was 31.55% last wednesday.

    These Elite Contact Tracers Show the World How to Beat Covid-19

    An old-school, shoe-leather investigation showed the virus had jumped from a night-club visitor, to a student, to a taxi driver and then alarmingly to a warehouse employee who worked with 4,000 others.

    Thousands of the employee’s co-workers, their family members and contacts were approached and 9,000 people were eventually tested. Two weeks later, the warehouse flareup was mostly extinguished and infections curtailed at 152...
    The CDC discovered that a nightclub visitor who was a private tutor spread the virus to one of his students. The student, who was unaware of the infection, used a coin-operated karaoke room, transmitting the virus to a taxi-driver singing in an adjoining room.

    The taxi-driver also worked as a part-time photographer and took photos of a birthday party at a buffet restaurant in the area where the (warehouse) distribution center is located.

    Through surveillance footage and mobile phone records, investigators contacted everyone who had been at the restaurant around the time of the birthday party. Among those who were infected at the restaurant was a woman who had worked for a day at the warehouse.


  • #1106
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,419 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That's crazy. In most states, you won't get in trouble for drug use if you call in an overdose.. But they have people worried about some underage drinking?

    Bizarro country.

    Not as bizarre as allowing 18 year olds to join the army and get blown up by IEDs in Iraq, yet not allowed to drink alcohol until 21.


  • #1107
    Ineedaname
    Closed Accounts Posts: 369 ✭✭Ineedaname


    seanb85 wrote: »
    It is reassuring to see that level of confidence from him, I recently watched a lecture he gave on Ebola and he is impressive. I'd still be concerned that 3 months or so is a very short time frame for a phase 3 trial. In normal times you'd give it at least 2 years.

    Yeah but one of the reasons for that is the amount of time it takes to to get enough cases to verify data. The Ebola epidemic for instance had less than 30,000 cases over 3 years. Brazil are getting more than that in COVID cases every single day.


  • #1108
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,537 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    GazzaL wrote: »
    They'd be giving out a lot of free diesel. The staff didn't have a problem anyway. Live and let live. We all got fuel and breakfast rolls during lockdown anyway.

    Yes, the problem is that as a consequence of these actions some people do not live.


  • #1109
    redmgar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭redmgar


    Although trials of the vaccine are promising they are not 100% certain to be effective as yet.


  • #1110
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    Yes, the problem is that as a consequence of these actions some people do not live.

    Yeah, they are all going to die


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  • #1111
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Oxford is planning to launch in September. Moderna and Pfizers following by the end of the year/early 2021. And that’s without even considering the Chinese vaccines which could be even further ahead.

    I'd take all the vaccines at this stage.


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