Masks

fr336 · 25-07-2020 09:23PM

Yes: surgical

GazzaL wrote: »

Yeah, and social distancing and good hygiene is being ****ed out the window thanks to all the noise about mask wearing. The basics are being forgotten about.

Fair point, with the masks coming in I haven't washed my hands for 2 weeks and reguarly invade people's personal space in shops. Can only do so much at one time.

Graham · 25-07-2020 09:24PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Yeah, and social distancing and good hygiene is being ****ed out the window thanks to all the noise about mask wearing. The basics are being forgotten about.

I don't know where you got that idea from.

Masks, social distancing and hand cleaning.

Not rocket science.

John O.Groats · 25-07-2020 09:24PM

Yes: surgical

kris_2021 wrote: »

Yeah sure.

And how do u safely dispose biohazard materials at home?

There was a device invented quite some time ago called a bin. Maybe you haven`t heard of it?

GazzaL · 25-07-2020 09:29PM

Graham wrote: »

I don't know where you got that idea from.

Masks, social distancing and hand cleaning.

Not rocket science.

It's true though. Clear, simple messaging is most effective. We achieved that in relation to social distancing and good hygiene, but that is no longer being achieved.

kris_2021 · 25-07-2020 09:30PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

There was a device invented quite some time ago called a bin. Maybe you haven`t heard of it?

Lol. Understand the question and then come back.

Graham · 25-07-2020 09:31PM

Masks, social distancing and hand cleaning.

Pretty clear.

Sconsey · 25-07-2020 09:31PM

No: other

kris_2021 wrote: »

Yeah sure.

And how do u safely dispose biohazard materials at home?

Put it in a bin maybe? how do you dispose of soiled nappies, used tissues, etc.

I think even a child could figure that one out. Surprised you had to ask but happy to help.

Jim_Hodge · 25-07-2020 09:33PM

Yes: homemade

GazzaL wrote: »

Yeah, and social distancing and good hygiene is being ****ed out the window thanks to all the noise about mask wearing. The basics are being forgotten about.

It's like a broken record. You keep repeating that mantra but repetition doesn't make it any less incorrect,

The basics are still very much in play. Where you get the impression that its otherwise, one can only wonder.

Sconsey · 25-07-2020 09:37PM

No: other

GazzaL wrote: »

Whats with the selfie?

GazzaL · 25-07-2020 09:46PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

It's like a broken record. You keep repeating that mantra but repetition does make it any less incorrect,

The basics are still very much in play. Where you get the impression that its otherwise, one can only wonder.

The basics are going out the window. It's evident every day. The practices that brought us from the peak down to the current level are being forgotten about, and some eejits believe they are invincible with a mask.

Graham · 25-07-2020 09:50PM

GazzaL wrote: »

some eejits believe they are invincible with a mask.

I missed that post.

Most people understand masks are only a part of it.

Jim_Hodge · 25-07-2020 09:55PM

Yes: homemade

GazzaL wrote: »

The basics are going out the window. It's evident every day. The practices that brought us from the peak down to the current level are being forgotten about, and some eejits believe they are invincible with a mask.

So you keep saying as infinitum. Doesn't make it even remotely true. I can equally say it's evident to me every day that people are keeping social distance, maintaining hand hygiene and, yes, wearing masks in retail settings.

How about you keep repeating the fallacy and others keep repeating the true situation as they see it?

We're in for a riveting thread, if so.

odyssey06 · 25-07-2020 09:59PM

GazzaL wrote: »

There's a few on here that have already admitted that they re-use the disposable one-time-use medical masks. Apparently that's ok though because they say so.

First of all we're still waiting on an answer to the important question:
Do you agree that the WHO recommends that masks are worn in enclosed public places such as public transport and retail outlets such as supermarkets?

Because your answer to that is key to any other post you make on the subject.
For example if you accept the WHO recommendation about mask usage we can further consider their recommendations for use of masks by ordinary citizens (primary purpose protect others) and use of PPE by medical staff in close quarters with infected or suspect patients (primary purpose protect staff).

Can you re-use a face mask? Yes.
The nuances of this differ depending on whether you are an ordinary citzen wearing the mask to protect others OR a medical staff member in the conduct of your duties.
We wouldn't send a staff member in wearing a handmade cloth covering.

The CDC has released guidelines for mask use amidst the shortage. The organization doesn't recommend cleaning masks, but it does recommend these practices for safe reuse:

A surgical mask or N95 respirator should only be reused by the same person, never shared between medical professionals.
Extended use is better than reuse, so it's better to leave a respirator on for the whole shift rather than taking it on and off. That's because it minimizes the amount people are touching their faces, potentially allowing a virus to enter their body. The CDC guidelines say that there's no way to predict a safe number of reuses, so medical professionals should use their judgement.
When not in use, the mask should be stored in a breathable container, like a paper bag. That's exactly what some New York doctors are doing as they battle a mask shortage.
The virus that causes COVID-19 can live on surfaces for up to 72 hours, research shows. Because of that, Rechsteiner says it would be ideal to have three face masks that could be rotated.

GazzaL · 25-07-2020 10:00PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

So you keep saying as infinitum. Doesn't make it even remotely true. I can equally say it's evident to me every day that people are keeping social distance, maintaining hand hygiene and, yes, wearing masks in retail settings.

How about you keep repeating the fallacy and others keep repeating the true situation as they see it?

We're in for a riveting thread, if so.

Keep repeating fallacies as you see fit. I will deliver the truth.

Jim_Hodge · 25-07-2020 10:04PM

Yes: homemade

GazzaL wrote: »

Keep repeating fallacies as you see fit. I will deliver the truth.

And it will be pointed out that it's untrue.

Despite what you say, most people are maintaining social distance, sanitising their hands and, when in shops, wearing the required face covering.

See how this works??

GazzaL · 25-07-2020 10:07PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

And it will be pointed out that it's untrue.

Despite what you say, most people are maintaining social distance, sanitising their hands and, when in shops, wearing the required face covering.

See how this works??

Buuuull sheeeeeeit. See how that works?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1dnqKGuezo

Jim_Hodge · 25-07-2020 10:09PM

Yes: homemade

GazzaL wrote: »

...........See how that works?

Oh I certainly do. And without any foul language too.

GazzaL · 25-07-2020 10:11PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Oh I certainly do. And without any foul language too.

Good man yourself, let's get back to the basics of social distancing and good hygiene.

Paddygreen · 25-07-2020 10:11PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Oh I certainly do. And without any foul language too.

Potty mouth on the fella. I can’t unhear it.

Jim_Hodge · 25-07-2020 10:23PM

Yes: homemade

GazzaL wrote: »

Good man yourself, let's get back to the basics of social distancing and good hygiene.

We never left them. We just added the wearing of a face covering when in retail outlets. Simple, easy precautions and great to see so many people doing all three without complaint.

Away With The Fairies · 25-07-2020 11:15PM

Yes: valved

GazzaL wrote: »

Good man yourself, let's get back to the basics of social distancing and good hygiene.

If we were all good at all social distancing, there wouldn't be new cases every day. So masks kind of help.

So let's get back to social distancing, hand washing and masks.

Ten of Swords · 25-07-2020 11:58PM

GazzaL do not post in this thread again

Away With The Fairies · 26-07-2020 09:53AM

Yes: valved

We should have a stupidity thread for funny videos.

This one not wearing a mask and now claiming a shop is discriminating against being a woman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8560775/Bunnings-Karen-refuses-wear-mask-berates-innocent-workers-stores-policy.html?ito=social-facebook_Australia&fbclid=IwAR1mbyDwj46Zjj6WGvDlUyCGo_Qqf09Wk2x-q0PgN5pJIpsynYysRbta9Ok

xhomelezz · 26-07-2020 10:10AM

Yes: valved

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

We should have a stupidity thread for funny videos.

This one not wearing a mask and now claiming a shop is discriminating against being a woman.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8560775/Bunnings-Karen-refuses-wear-mask-berates-innocent-workers-stores-policy.html?ito=social-facebook_Australia&fbclid=IwAR1mbyDwj46Zjj6WGvDlUyCGo_Qqf09Wk2x-q0PgN5pJIpsynYysRbta9Ok

Stupid clown looking for attention, guess there will be few here as well. Can't wait what excuses will be used

xhomelezz · 26-07-2020 10:17AM

Yes: valved

Cases back at home went over 200 a day for last four days. Takes very little to trigger infections.

https://www.praguemorning.cz/number-of-infected-in-prague-nightclub-rises-to-109/

Ardent · 26-07-2020 10:40AM

Wearing masks could help you avoid major illness even if you get coronavirus, experts say:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-21/masks-help-avoid-major-illness-coronavirus

xhomelezz · 26-07-2020 10:48AM

Yes: valved

Ardent wrote: »

Wearing masks could help you avoid major illness even if you get coronavirus, experts say:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-21/masks-help-avoid-major-illness-coronavirus

Exactly, while you wearing one, you can limit infectious dose of Covid-19, so you limit the severity of sickness.

odyssey06 · 26-07-2020 10:54AM

xhomelezz wrote: »

Exactly, while you wearing one, you can limit infectious dose of Covid-19, so you limit the severity of sickness.

To clarify though it's still on the basis of limiting the viral loads produced by those around you.
Rather than your mask directly protecings you - when I read the headline first that was my assumption.

Less viral load means you are less likely to be severely sick.
But you are reliant on other people to mask up.
One for all and all for one and all that

Away With The Fairies · 26-07-2020 11:49AM

Yes: valved

xhomelezz wrote: »

Cases back at home went over 200 a day for last four days. Takes very little to trigger infections.

https://www.praguemorning.cz/number-of-infected-in-prague-nightclub-rises-to-109/

People became infected by sharing a straw. If they were sharing straws, they probably had no problem getting close to each other.

xhomelezz · 26-07-2020 11:53AM

Yes: valved

odyssey06 wrote: »

To clarify though it's still on the basis of limiting the viral loads produced by those around you.
Rather than your mask directly protecings you - when I read the headline first that was my assumption.

Less viral load means you are less likely to be severely sick.
But you are reliant on other people to mask up.
One for all and all for one and all that

Oh I'm well aware about limitations of masks, that's why as many people as possible should wear them. Also there's difference between infection dose or load and viral load. Think infection dose is what you start with, the amount of virus you initially get into your body, but yeah needs to be as little as possible.

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