Masks

harr wrote: »

Seen my first melt down this morning, man was asked to put on mask in shop and let a torrent of abuse at the poor girl at counter. Something something about his right not to wear a mask and it wasn’t the law .. fair play to the assistant who was calm and enough and calmly told the man it was also her right to refuse service he left after firing off another round of abuse. A number of customers also told him calm down and he left once a few people started to turn on him ..
Not a very good public image for the company he works for as he was wearing their uniform and driving a work van.

Something like this American idiot

Masks around Europe:

• Britain yesterday also made it compulsory to wear a face-covering in shopping centres, banks, takeaway outlets, sandwich shops and supermarkets. Exceptions have been made, including for children under 11 or people with respiratory problems, but others who refuse to cover their nose and mouth in the UK risk a fine of up to £100 (€115).
• Austria has reimplemented a similar policy with face masks mandatory again in a range of places from supermarkets to pharmacies — the rule previously having been relaxed.
• Masks are now mandatory in enclosed spaces across France.

harr wrote: »

Seen my first melt down this morning, man was asked to put on mask in shop and let a torrent of abuse at the poor girl at counter. Something something about his right not to wear a mask and it wasn’t the law .. fair play to the assistant who was calm and enough and calmly told the man it was also her right to refuse service he left after firing off another round of abuse. A number of customers also told him calm down and he left once a few people started to turn on him ..
Not a very good public image for the company he works for as he was wearing their uniform and driving a work van.

Hopefully someone got a photo of this lad. Be worth asking the company if this was the image they wanted.

Paddygreen wrote: »

Adding about a meter of pvc pipe to a snorkel and a one way valve might be a solution, that way all the air you breathe would be from a meter above your head. Gravity would naturally draw virus droplets to the ground.

The virus particle is thousands of times smaller than an aerosolized water droplet and rides along it.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/ireland/

It's shocking the amount of pro-mask people on here that are actively encouraging people to disregard WHO guidelines.

GazzaL wrote: »

It's shocking the amount of pro-mask people on here that are actively encouraging people to disregard WHO guidelines.

Quote a single one.

Are the pro-mark zealots (because that's what some of these posts read like to be honest!) REALLY so fearful of "the virus" that they will lash out whenever someone questions it, or doesn't agree? Or is it just Irish begrudgery/curtain-twitching that some seem to be "getting away with" something they're not?

I'm actually serious. Given the extremely low rates of new cases and deaths that we continue to have, coupled with the again declining "R number" (because I know that's another favourite used to validate it), why do we need masks NOW when we didn't at any point up until now - and yet somehow still managed to "flatten the curve" to the aforementioned minimal new cases?

I'm just back from the weekly shop and it was a thoroughly unpleasant experience. Couldn't breathe properly, sweating, and even trouble concentrating by the time I got out of the place. I also spent about half what I normally would so there's that element too. But of course, I fully expect this real world feedback to be dismissed with "just get on with it" or whatever.

Twitter and the culture it's bred (this "need" to be on-message and validated, coupled with an aggressive "with us or against us" stance) has a LOT to answer for generally, but particularly in how some people are treating others during this situation.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Are the pro-mark zealots (because that's what some of these posts read like to be honest!) REALLY so fearful of "the virus" that they will lash out whenever someone questions it, or doesn't agree? Or is it just Irish begrudgery/curtain-twitching that some seem to be "getting away with" something they're not?

I'm actually serious. Given the extremely low rates of new cases and deaths that we continue to have, coupled with the again declining "R number" (because I know that's another favourite used to validate it), why do we need masks NOW when we didn't at any point up until now - and yet somehow still managed to "flatten the curve" to the aforementioned minimal new cases?

I'm just back from the weekly shop and it was a thoroughly unpleasant experience. Couldn't breathe properly, sweating, and even trouble concentrating by the time I got out of the place. I also spent about half what I normally would so there's that element too. But of course, I fully expect this real world feedback to be dismissed with "just get on with it" or whatever.

Twitter and the culture it's bred (this "need" to be on-message and validated, coupled with an aggressive "with us or against us" stance) has a LOT to answer for generally, but particularly in how some people are treating others during this situation.

Well, IF you had such a troubles to wear one, maybe it's time to visit your GP.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I'm just back from the weekly shop and it was a thoroughly unpleasant experience. Couldn't breathe properly, sweating, and even trouble concentrating by the time I got out of the place. I

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Good grief you sound exactly like a person who could be at great risk from the virus. I'd be self isolating if I were you.

GazzaL wrote: »

I've repeatedly posted the WHO guidelines only to be dismissed by the same bunch of eejits on here. Huge numbers of people are wearing face masks incorrectly, putting themselves and others at higher risk.

The WHO who you are so fond of quoting are pro-Mask:
In light of evolving evidence, the WHO advises that governments should encourage the general public to wear masks where there is widespread transmission and physical distancing is difficult, such as on public transport, in shops or in other confined or crowded environments".


Do you agree?

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Oh please :rolleyes: Enough with the "think of the Children" hysteria!

The virus is reduced to manageable levels for near 2 months now and remains so despite wide reopening of businesses. That's all these measures wre intended to do incidentally - it will never be eradicated fully until a vaccine is developed.

Masks has become the new "STAY HOME". A means for the fearful and docile to shout down anyone who doesn't buy into the hysteria about daily numbers in the media (which are generally meaningless - what good is an ever increasing count of cases that doesn't reflect how many are recovered and clear?).

I'll say now what I said then. Stay home if you wish. Mask up if you wish. But stop projecting your fears and insecurities onto others.

In my own case - as I've said before - I'm not sick, haven't been sick, WFH, and live in a county with 1% of cases and no new ones in nearly a month (as of last week). The chances of me getting or passing a virus is minimal as to be virtually zero.

The insecurity is strong in this one.

It's a mask not a fake pair of bollix.

Throw it on lad, do your bit. I know you are all ready, you are just given it the tough guy online routine.

Fair play to you.

xhomelezz wrote: »

Well, IF you had such a troubles to wear one, maybe it's time to visit your GP.

OldRio wrote: »

Good grief you sound exactly like a person who could be at great risk from the virus. I'd be self isolating if I were you.

No need, because I am not at any significant risk to need to do anything beyond good hygiene and social distancing - and as I don't generally hug random people in supermarkets, or get so close to them that even in normal circumstances it'd be odd, that level of risk is virtually zero.

And as I've said before, life IS risk. Virtually everything we do carries some chance that something may go wrong. But we don't generally worst-case preparations before we engage in those things. If we did we probably would never leave the house at all.