Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

ICU cases now down to 5

https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

Reckon mask compliance is high almost everywhere now. Was in the local shop last night and everybody had one on.

Dante7 wrote: »

The Chinese Army.

I don't think that hundreds of thousands PLA members have already been given a vaccine.

No vaccine candidate has yet passed a phase 3 clinical trial, and so there is no approved vaccine anywhere.

The Chinese government has put CanSino's non-approved recombinant AD5 vaccine candidate on an emergency use list for the military, it was announced at the end of June (link).
However, I've not seen any information on the scale of any planned PLA inoculation program, or any reports that such a program has already begun.

The candidate vaccine passed phase 1 and 2 trials earlier this year, but has not begun a phase 3 trial, though negotiations are ongoing with countries with large active outbreaks (link).
This puts CanSino behind other Chinese, European and American vaccine candidates in the development race.

It has been speculated that the Chinese government is actually seeking to use its military to conduct a phase 3 trial of CanSino's vaccine candidate, though I'm sceptical of that because incidence is so low in China that it wouldn't be a good place to carry out such a trial right now.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Reckon mask compliance is high almost everywhere now. Was in the local shop last night and everybody had one on.

Generally yes but then you get the 5g crowd or tin foil hat conspiracy theorists. Was in my local Lidl today and an auld lad noticed a fella at the check out not wearing a mask, he asked the security guard about it and asked was there fines for not wearing one, the security guard said its not the law yet probably will be next week wherein the lad who wasnt wearing a mask piped up to the auld lad and said "Those masks will cause you more issues then covid". The auld lad shut him down beautifully though he said "youd be better off doing what youve been told to ****ing do".

Shin

shinzon wrote: »

Generally yes but then you get the 5g crowd or tin foil hat conspiracy theorists. Was in my local Lidl today and an auld lad noticed a fella at the check out not wearing a mask, he asked the security guard about it and asked was there fines for not wearing one, the security guard said its not the law yet probably will be next week wherein the lad who wasnt wearing a mask piped up to the auld lad and said "Those masks will cause you more issues then covid". The auld lad shut him down beautifully though he said "youd be better off doing what youve been told to ****ing do".

Shin

Guess you had to be there

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Donnelly on news saying there will be a "second surge"

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/coronavirus-donnelly-says-r-rate-has-fallen-but-warns-ireland-will-see-second-surge-1.4312682?mode=amp

He's some clown.

For as much as I wasn't a big fan of Harris he was miles better than Donnelly

darjeeling wrote: »

I don't think that hundreds of thousands PLA members have already been given a vaccine.

No vaccine candidate has yet passed a phase 3 clinical trial, and so there is no approved vaccine anywhere.

The Chinese government has put CanSino's non-approved recombinant AD5 vaccine candidate on an emergency use list for the military, it was announced at the end of June (link).
However, I've not seen any information on the scale of any planned PLA inoculation program, or any reports that such a program has already begun.

The candidate vaccine passed phase 1 and 2 trials earlier this year, but has not begun a phase 3 trial, though negotiations are ongoing with countries with large active outbreaks (link).
This puts CanSino behind other Chinese, European and American vaccine candidates in the development race.

It has been speculated that the Chinese government is actually seeking to use its military to conduct a phase 3 trial of CanSino's vaccine candidate, though I'm sceptical of that because incidence is so low in China that it wouldn't be a good place to carry out such a trial right now.

China approved the use of a vaccine for their military, skipping phase 3 trials.

China approves COVID-19 vaccine for military use, skips final phase of testing

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-vaccine-approved-military-use-china-1.5630947

To speed up the process, China allowed Sinopharm and Sinovac to combine Phase I and Phase II trials for their vaccine candidates.
...

China must also address concerns over its vaccine quality and safety issues following several here scandals here over substandard vaccines in recent years.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-vaccine-anal-idUSKBN2481NO

That is so reassuring. I won't be granting any Chinese vaccine entry to my veins!

stephenjmcd wrote: »

He's some clown.

For as much as I wasn't a big fan of Harris he was miles better than Donnelly

For speaking truthfully?

He said public health officials were saying, based on how the disease is working around the world that “we are going to have a second surge”.

“We’re hoping it will be low. We’re hoping it might be localised geographically but we have to be prepared within particular communities, particular counties, particular cities, for the prevalence rate to go up.”

AdamD wrote: »

Look I would agree with you if we weren't 4 or 5 months into daily articles, at what point is it okay to just read the headline?

The articles are literally copy and paste at this point. Of course people will stop reading them. Discrepancies should be included in the headline.

There isn't one person I have talked to that thinks 9 people died in the past 24 hours.

No one on here either.

cnocbui wrote: »

If Australia couldn't avoid a second wave, there's absolutely no chance Ireland will.

Interesting analysis here on latitude:
(The smaller black& white embedded chart is an old chart that tracked flu incidence over 4 or 5 seasons in different areas of the world)

https://twitter.com/kylamb8/status/1286546120563400704?s=20


Disclaimer: I know it's not the flu nor am I comparing severity, but it is interesting that it may share similar seasonal patterns based on latitude

Well, good news everyone, I guess:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.21.20159178v1

Also, if you care to look at the PDF, there are two nice sets of images showing the GGOs healing over time (Figure 1D).

YellowBucket wrote: »

I’m just wondering why so they give a R0 number of between 0.7 and 1.4
Just seems a very wide band.

It's to do with how it us calculated and confidence levels, similar to a survey or marketing poll.

There is noise in all data and as the numbers reduce the noise is a greater proportion of the value, similar to how a smaller sample size can give less accurate data.

They can calculate with a certain degree of certainty (e.g. 98% certain) that R is between a lower and upper bound e.g. 0.7 and 1.4

Using different models they can calculate different ranges for R and combine to give a consensus range for R.

Paddygreen wrote: »

Guys, looking at the R numbers today made me truly terrified. I haven’t been this scared since the first week of the lockdown. My fear level has gone from six to eight and a half on a scale of ten. I am dreading the next update and petrified that the second wave is around the corner. God help us all.

Good one - almost had me.