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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part IV - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭Jackman25


    Penfailed wrote: »
    I've seen posts like this a few times on this thread. A couple have been aimed at me. An innocent comment that things are pretty much getting back to normal gets a response like that ^^^
    Nowhere did the OP say that, 'they were alright Jack.' Nowhere did they even hint at the fact that they don't care about peoples livelihoods being fúcked over.
    Are you alright Jack(man25)?

    Its the same cohort obsessed with the people who were giving out about restrictions.
    For some including myself, things are very much back to normal, for others not so much, its no harm to think of them an odd time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    There seems to be a lot of anger and all that on this thread.

    I cannot understand it, we have done very well. A lot of things are open again now. It must be the pubs issue so.

    But whingers will whinge. No matter what.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Jackman25 wrote: »
    Its the same cohort obsessed with the people who were giving out about restrictions.
    For some including myself, things are very much back to normal, for others not so much, its no harm to think of them an odd time.

    Absolutely. It does no harm to think about them and post about them. To attack another poster about it when their post was unrelated was uncalled for though, no?
    Regarding the first part of your post, you could say that it's the same cohort obsessed with the people who were relatively happy with the pace of the easement of restrictions. There's two sides to this with differing opinions. Some are more vocal than others. There's also a large cohort who are somewhere in the middle of it all.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭Golf is my Game


    Theres too types of people in life really, the reckless, and the sensible. Problem happens when the reckless arent just risking themselves, but the sensible too. Then the sensible ones dont like that. Which is a fair sum up of this thing. Luckliy the goverment are good at the moment so being guided by the science not that lads who just want to do what they want whenever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,529 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Arghus wrote: »
    Mate, nearly everything in the country, aside from some pubs, has been back to some normality now for over a month.

    Excellent point, we already have most things, and will have some more.
    I'm not sure anyone needs to die or suffer serious illness for the remainder. especially as there is reasonable prospect of a vaccine by this time next year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭Jackman25


    There seems to be a lot of anger and all that on this thread.

    I cannot understand it, we have done very well. A lot of things are open again now. It must be the pubs issue so.

    But whingers will whinge. No matter what.

    People have been giving out about the restrictions on the various editions of this thread for months. Proven correct when they were brought forward, and probably correct again about the unnecessary postponing of Phase 4. So not just the pubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,886 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Theres too types of people in life really, the reckless, and the sensible. Problem happens when the reckless are just risking themselves, but the sensible too. Then the sensible ones dont like that. Which is a fair sum up of this thing. Luckliy the goverment are good at the moment so being guided by the science not that lads who just want to do what they want whenever.

    BS- you need to get out more. There's a whole lot of people in between that are neither of variations of both.
    To me the so called "sensible" you are eulogising are some of the most reckless- destroying our economy, kids education, health screening etc all because they are too scared to fcukin live. Pack of absolute brain dead brainwashed loons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭Golf is my Game


    Excellent point, we already have most things, and will have some more.
    I'm not sure anyone needs to die or suffer serious illness for the remainder. especially as there is reasonable prospect of a vaccine by this time next year.

    Having most things is the very reason we shouldnt have pubs. Theres enough risk level already with the important stuff so its the right thing to keep the risk low by staying away from stuff that not at all essential. If theres a resonable prospect of a vaccine next year then I think that seals it and pubs should stall all closed food or not until we all get the vaccine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Pubs in the north have been given an indicative date of the 10th of August for reopening (depending on the prevailing Covid situation).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Having most things is the very reason we shouldnt have pubs. Theres enough risk level already with the important stuff so its the right thing to keep the risk low by staying away from stuff that not at all essential. If theres a resonable prospect of a vaccine next year then I think that seals it and pubs should stall all closed food or not until we all get the vaccine.

    I disagree. A vaccine is not guaranteed. Even if they do get one, not everyone will want to get it (me included). Pubs should open sometime soon, preferably before the end of the summer.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Jackman25 wrote: »
    You're all over this forum whining about people complaining about restrictions.
    Maybe some of them have good reason for that and don't deserve to be sneered at.

    Some of them have good reasons, but I don't think there's many in this forum.

    You know nothing about how I feel about people who may lose their jobs, or already have. Just another would be mind reader.

    The irony of being labelled selfish in this thread that has been defined, from the beginning, by its complete lack of empathy and pure selfishness. But self awareness is hard to come by in here, I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    EarthCam of Temple Bar now is a revelation.

    They will not open up for a long while yet. No tourists.

    https://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=templebar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Theres too types of people in life really, the reckless, and the sensible. Problem happens when the reckless are just risking themselves, but the sensible too. Then the sensible ones dont like that. Which is a fair sum up of this thing. Luckliy the goverment are good at the moment so being guided by the science not that lads who just want to do what they want whenever.

    What have I just read


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭Golf is my Game


    What have I just read

    Sorry, fair cop, should have written arent not are. Corrected now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    Arghus wrote: »
    Mate, nearly everything in the country, aside from some pubs, has been back to some normality now for over a month.

    How can you say everything is almost back to normal.Did i just wake up from a dream or have we not 350,000 extra people on a PUP payment plus a few hundred thousand on wage supplement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    How can you say everything is almost back to normal.Did i just wake up from a dream or have we not 350,000 extra people on a PUP payment plus a few hundred thousand on wage supplement.

    Correct, that would include restaurants, bars, hotels, restaurants and so on.

    But they have the Covid payment. Paid by the taxpayer. All good, happy to help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    How can you say everything is almost back to normal.Did i just wake up from a dream or have we not 350,000 extra people on a PUP payment plus a few hundred thousand on wage supplement.

    Do you think life feels the same now as it did in March/April?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    Correct, that would include restaurants, bars, hotels, restaurants and so on.

    But they have the Covid payment. Paid by the taxpayer. All good, happy to help.

    Appreciate your help,now will you guarantee the covid payments and wage subsidies for the long term,as i fear they will be needed when a large number of retail,leisure aviation etc fold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    Arghus wrote: »
    Do you think life feels the same now as it did in March/April?
    No,whats your point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    No,whats your point?

    Try to guess.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭Golf is my Game


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    Appreciate your help,now will you guarantee the covid payments and wage subsidies for the long term,as i fear they will be needed when a large number of retail,leisure aviation etc fold.

    I think we have to because its best all round. Until theres a vacine then its better to support them that has to lose their jobs or close or whatever and I think we should all be happy to do than not just think good luck to them im all right Jack. Because thats better then hurting all the economy with more lockdowns and then the country being worse off all round. Thats the thing of it. So yes we has to support pub workers and air travel people and the likes. Its in everyones good to do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    road_high wrote: »
    BS- you need to get out more. There's a whole lot of people in between that are neither of variations of both.
    To me the so called "sensible" you are eulogising are some of the most reckless- destroying our economy, kids education, health screening etc all because they are too scared to fcukin live. Pack of absolute brain dead brainwashed loons.

    Brainwashed by who?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    Arghus wrote: »
    Try to guess.

    I get the smart arse wake from the dream comment,is that the best reply you can make to my post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    Appreciate your help,now will you guarantee the covid payments and wage subsidies for the long term,as i fear they will be needed when a large number of retail,leisure aviation etc fold.

    Very happy to help, but how could you expect me to guarantee anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    I get the smart arse wake from the dream comment,is that the best reply you can make to my post.

    I don't know what else is necessary for me to say.

    You said it yourself that life doesn't feel like it did in March/April.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Why are the covid bedwetters leaving their house to go shopping etc or coming in contact with any one. If they are so selfless and concerned about others?

    Jesus if the mickey mouse virus generates this hysteria, imagine what an actual serious one would do.... we can go back to feudalism...

    Mickey mouse virus? Covid bedwetters? You must be on a windup. This can`t possibly be a serious post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    Arghus wrote: »
    I don't know what else is necessary for me to say.

    You said it yourself that life doesn't feel like it did in March/April.

    But you maintain that everything is almost back to normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    I wouldn’t say this thread is funny, quite the opposite.

    The economy tanking is absolutely not funny. Record numbers unemployed is not funny. Not educating our children for 6 months and counting is also no laughing matter. Cancelling very important screenings/tests and treatments for months on end is not funny. 350000 still getting a Covid payment that is now extended is not funny.

    Unfortunately most people just can’t see this. Shielded by a government prepared to borrow billions and billions to kick the can further down the road rather than make any decisions. God help them if the Oxford vaccine doesn’t work out.

    All of this for an illness that hasn’t even killed 2000 people with the government admitting that the deaths have been overstated.

    Maybe the reality will hit one day, as you wave your kids off at the airport, wishing there was something for them to stay here for. But we didn’t prioritise their futures. We selfishly worried about our own health.

    I wish people were as concerned about the youth during normal times. Instead they're told to stop moaning, accept their lot and get on with it. Something doesn't add up...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    I cant leave the country without probaly losing my job, how is that normal. I cant go to watch any sport, how is that normal, weddings, christenings, funerals cant happen as before. How is that nornal. How can anyone say we are nearly back to normal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    lukas8888 wrote: »
    But you maintain that everything is almost back to normal.

    Correct.


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