Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

bb1234567 · 21-07-2020 07:38PM

To give a bit of perspective for those saying global covid deaths are overestimated, it seems it's an entirely opposite situation in most other countries . Mexico City had reported around 14,000 excess deaths in the months of April and May(2x times more deaths than usual,similar to New York and Lombardy), its official covid death toll was only 4000 for the city by the end of May .

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexico-city-coronavirus-excess-death-toll/2020/07/02/2baaab3e-bbbb-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html%3foutputType=amp

petes · 21-07-2020 07:40PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

My mam had her blood oxygen levels tested last december,seemed there was a spate of cases locally similar low blood oxygen and dry coughs

What's your point? I'm guessing it's that they had covid in December?

If that was the case it would have been known long before the official first case here.

fritzelly · 21-07-2020 07:44PM

Danzy wrote: »

A man in my local North cork town, about 2k people told me his wife tested positive, had Pneumonia in early March.

That's 4 people i know of locally and you can be certain a lot more had it but never said.

I

Why did 2k people need to tell you?

GooglePlus · 21-07-2020 07:46PM

I reckon we'll have 100+ cases in a day in about 2-3 weeks.

21-07-2020 07:48PM

petes wrote: »

What's your point? I'm guessing it's that they had covid in December?

If that was the case it would have been known long before the official first case here.

Mate,most people in my area was laid low by a horrendous cough/flu and several pneumonias about before xmas......doctor was shooting in dark as several similar cases shown up of low blood oxygen.....noone had even heard of cv19 then

There has been 1 case of cv19 in my parish confirmed since testing began in march

21-07-2020 07:48PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

I reckon we'll have 100+ cases in a day in about 2-3 weeks.

Doubt we will make it to october without shutting down again

GooglePlus · 21-07-2020 07:51PM

petes wrote: »

What's your point? I'm guessing it's that they had covid in December?

If that was the case it would have been known long before the official first case here.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52526554

This might have been disproven since, I haven't looked into it but at the time, how many people were moving through France and into Ireland?

ACitizenErased · 21-07-2020 07:53PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

I reckon we'll have 100+ cases in a day in about 2-3 weeks.

I reckon we wont even get close to that

ChikiChiki · 21-07-2020 07:56PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

What the hell is wrong with 500 people standing in the open air and getting a bit of relief to go watch a game of hurling or football.if we get this much awaited 2nd wave and we’re all locked down again the government will have a hard sell next time round.seems you can have countless people indoors in shopping centres and that’s grand but feck it,it’s lethal to be out in the fresh air.

Nevermind the spectators, that's not the issue. A panel of 30 lads training in close enough contact and playing games against another 30 lads is a risk not worth taking. Then you have the cascading effect through the league. And of course all the ladies and juvenile teams training aswell. Was watching underage training the weekend and they could not be kept apart.

Then they are going home to their families 3 times a week and into their workplaces each day, some of them frontline. The risk grows exponentially with each movement.

I cannot see a single county league not suffer disruption due to one player having to self isolate or a family member of a player catching Covid.

The main priority is schools returning so GAA should fall behind that. I've pulled out of club for this year and a close relative who plays intercounty the same. GAA is recreational and therefore should be parked for this year at least.

If the priority is to get schools open, park GAA and contact sports for now. Otherwise we are multiplying the risk is spades.

GooglePlus · 21-07-2020 07:56PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I reckon we wont even get close to that

I hope you're right.

Ineedaname · 21-07-2020 07:57PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

To give a bit of perspective for those saying global covid deaths are overestimated, it seems it's an entirely opposite situation in most other countries . Mexico City had reported over 27,300 excess deaths in the months of April and May, its official covid death toll was only 4000 for the city by the end of May .

If even a fifth of the excess deaths are unreported covid deaths which is probably a very conservative guess it still means less than half of the deaths in Mexico are being officially reported .
https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexico-city-coronavirus-excess-death-toll/2020/07/02/2baaab3e-bbbb-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html%3foutputType=amp

That's not right. The 27,300 figure is the total deaths in Mexico City for that period. Only about half of that number was the excess. Still though that's almost 3.5 times the reported figure.

bb1234567 · 21-07-2020 08:00PM

Ineedaname wrote: »

That's not right. The 27,300 figure is the total deaths in Mexico City for that period. Only about half of that number was the excess. Still though that's almost 3.5 times the reported figure.

Oh jeez big error by me, edited my original post now !

Eod100 · 21-07-2020 08:08PM

Guess stories like this will get more common. Hope it's caught early and none of the kids get it.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0721/1154738-creche/

ACitizenErased · 21-07-2020 08:08PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

I hope you're right.

There’s nothing to suggest we’ll get close to that, it there was massive growth we would’ve seen it by now

GooglePlus · 21-07-2020 08:08PM

So is there a weekend lag or not, it was said on here yesterday that there wasn't and if that's the case then these are all new cases found yesterday?

ACitizenErased · 21-07-2020 08:09PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Guess stories like this will get more common. Hope it's caught early and none of the kids get it.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0721/1154738-creche/

It seems there’s a lot of clusters popping up in Dublin, not many elsewhere which is interesting

Boggles · 21-07-2020 08:09PM

lukas8888 wrote: »

Probably mentioned already,nightly entertainment, Trump relaunching his corona virus briefings from tonight.

Yip, he was saying the other day they were great for ratings.

He didn't actually mention the virus.

Apparently he is going to inject toilet duck into Mike Pence tonight live to prove ChyNA! and Joe Biden created the virus to hurt his reelection Bigly!

Danzy · 21-07-2020 08:12PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Why did 2k people need to tell you?

I'm very cynical and need a lot of convincing.

petes · 21-07-2020 08:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Mate,most people in my area was laid low by a horrendous cough/flu and several pneumonias about before xmas......doctor was shooting in dark as several similar cases shown up of low blood oxygen.....noone had even heard of cv19 then

There has been 1 case of cv19 in my parish confirmed since testing began in march

Don't believe it for a second.

Arghus · 21-07-2020 08:14PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There’s nothing to suggest we’ll get close to that, it there was massive growth we would’ve seen it by now

Just because we haven't seen it by now doesn't mean that it's impossible.

People seem to be very fond of calling things definitively very early in this.

JP Liz V1 · 21-07-2020 08:14PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Guess stories like this will get more common. Hope it's caught early and none of the kids get it.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0721/1154738-creche/

And MM expects all schools reopen back in September

Boggles · 21-07-2020 08:15PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Guess stories like this will get more common. Hope it's caught early and none of the kids get it.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0721/1154738-creche/

Yeah, we were told yesterday that a range of workplaces are seeing new instances, absolutely nothing unusual about it if the virus is increasing in the community, no where is immune.

But sure, they were just trying to scare us to wear masks according to some.

Eod100 · 21-07-2020 08:16PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

It seems there’s a lot of clusters popping up in Dublin, not many elsewhere which is interesting

I guess population along would make it more likely and then more construction sites, retailers etc there than other counties. But wouldn't be surprised to see clusters elsewhere over next while.

petes · 21-07-2020 08:17PM

Arghus wrote: »

Just because we haven't seen it by now doesn't mean that it's impossible.

People seem to be very fond of calling things definitively very early in this.

Poster never mentioned 'definitively' anywhere.

No one said it's impossible.

Stop taking what people post and paraphrasing it in such a way that it suits you.

Danzy · 21-07-2020 08:22PM

petes wrote: »

Don't believe it for a second.

A lot were, no idea why you find it so hard to believe.

We know the disease was here at least since mid December. In other parts of Europe it may well have been there since November.

We know that it was wide spread in Northern Italy in December.

ChelseaRentBoy · 21-07-2020 08:36PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

And MM expects all schools reopen back in September

MM knows that's not happening he just can't say it yet.

I know of two separate health care workers who have sustained medium term lung damage due to Covid19 and one 29 year old woman who now moves like a 40 a day smoker after completing 3 marathons last year post catching the virus in April.

Teachers aren't going to expose themselves to a high risk environment and I don't blame them in the slightest.

An Ciarraioch · 21-07-2020 08:37PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

So is there a weekend lag or not, it was said on here yesterday that there wasn't and if that's the case then these are all new cases found yesterday?

Townsend Street building site, one presumes.

petes · 21-07-2020 08:39PM

Danzy wrote: »

A lot were, no idea why you find it so hard to believe.

We know the disease was here at least since mid December. In other parts of Europe it may well have been there since November.

We know that it was wide spread in Northern Italy in December.

Ah here, if it was it would have been widespread long before it was here.

Why do people still believe one or two reports of this. Do they not understand how this spread?

Most anecdotal stories of people saying they had something in December/January are people hoping they had it and over it.

Arghus · 21-07-2020 08:41PM

petes wrote: »

Poster never mentioned 'definitively' anywhere.

No one said it's impossible.

Stop taking what people post and paraphrasing it in such a way that it suits you.

I'll try to avoid it. Can you give me another example of me putting words in people's mouths?

ACitizenErased · 21-07-2020 08:42PM

petes wrote: »

Ah here, if it was it would have been widespread long before it was here.

Why do people still believe one or two reports of this. Do they not understand how this spread?

Most anecdotal stories of people saying they had something in December/January are people hoping they had it and over it.

Exponential spread of the virus takes 4 months. First case of the virus lines up exactly with the surge in each European country.

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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