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Are you happy about how your career is progressing?

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    #362
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,886 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    howyegettinon1 wrote:
    Its better than emailing him at 6am anyway Only way to het any decent increase is to have an offer from another company and hand in you notice, preferably at a time they really need you to do something important, otherwise youll only get the absolute bare minimum given to you just to keep you quiet for another year or two


    Or sexting them at 3, telling them you love them


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    #363
    howyegettinon1
    Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭howyegettinon1


    antimatterx wrote: »
    I don't think most people realize what they are getting into tbh. It sounds nice from the outside because there's money in it. That's true, but it's a hard job, and it takes years to earn good money.

    I disagree with IT being hard if you have certain qualities and find what you do genuinely interesting. If you enjoy solving problems and not be bothered by imaginary pressure that come with breaking something you will move along fairly quickly. Saying that there is a ton to learn and alot of head scratching involved, but it is rewarding when you find the solution to the problem


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    #364
    tim3000
    Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭tim3000


    Jesus this is severely depressing. 31yo male working in a large multinational medical device role. Moved from a quality testing role to a more senior position had to negotiate an increase to match my previous salary which doesn't even crack the 40k mark.

    I am educated to Masters degree level along with several other degrees across 3 disciplines. I just worry that I wouldnt be able for more senior roles.


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    #365
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,886 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    tim3000 wrote:
    Jesus this is severely depressing. 31yo male working in a large multi on 37k and had to argue for that. Moved from a quality testing role to a more senior position had to negotiate an increase to match my previous salary.


    Mnc's can be cnuts, you d swear they were poor or something!


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    #366
    tim3000
    Registered Users Posts: 555 ✭✭✭tim3000


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Mnc's can be cnuts, you d swear they were poor or something!

    I know and there is criminal waste in time money and resources. I'm thinking I need to move off out of there.


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    #367
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,886 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    tim3000 wrote:
    I know and there is criminal waste in time money and resources. I'm thinking I need to move off out of there.


    I love hear people say the public sector is wasteful, but spend some time in some mnc's and you ll see astonishing inefficiencies, tis time to move on when you ve had enough mnc bullsiht, I did, no regrets


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    #368
    howyegettinon1
    Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭howyegettinon1


    Wahl Clippers wrote: »
    35 years old, in my current role 18 months, on 88k. Previous job was 76k, before that was 56k, before that 42k, before that 25k. Left the 25k job at the end of 2011 and then kept moving to get increases in salary.

    I went for an interview for a job this week where the salary is in the 100-110k range. Not sure I'll move this time even if I get it, my CV is starting to look ridiculous if I move now. Ideally would prefer to stay in this job another 2 years to make the CV look better.

    I dont think anyone cares that you move around as long you do what your getting paid for and do it well, youd be alot better sitting around on 110k next 2-3 years than on 88k! But moving just for money not a good idea either, could end up working for some miserable prick for extra few grand and be worse of mentaly


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    #369
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,886 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    howyegettinon1 wrote:
    I dont think anyone cares that you move around as long you do what your getting paid for and do it well, youd be alot better sitting around on 110k next 2-3 years than on 88k! But moving just for money not a good idea either, could end up working for some miserable prick for extra few grand and be worse of mentaly


    I know a chap that moved around a lot in his early career, it's worked out extremely well for him, manager role now, health six figure, delighted for him, deserves it


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    #370
    howyegettinon1
    Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭howyegettinon1


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I love hear people say the public sector is wasteful, but spend some time in some mnc's and you ll see astonishing inefficiencies, tis time to move on when you ve had enough mnc bullsiht, I did, no regrets

    Too many middle managers with nothing to do yet the need and responsibility to show they are valuable and doing something important, just breeds a horrible work environment and processes just for sake of processes


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    #371
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,886 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    howyegettinon1 wrote:
    Too many middle managers with nothing to do yet the need and responsibility to show they are valuable and doing something important, just breeds a horrible work environment and processes just for sake of processes


    Ah upon reflection, I've realised it's a lot of things, but favorable tax regimes definitely plays a big part!


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    #372
    JasonStatham
    Closed Accounts Posts: 548 ✭✭✭JasonStatham


    Wahl Clippers wrote: »
    35 years old, in my current role 18 months, on 88k. Previous job was 76k, before that was 56k, before that 42k, before that 25k. Left the 25k job at the end of 2011 and then kept moving to get increases in salary.

    I went for an interview for a job this week where the salary is in the 100-110k range. Not sure I'll move this time even if I get it, my CV is starting to look ridiculous if I move now. Ideally would prefer to stay in this job another 2 years to make the CV look better.

    Thinly veiled "look how much money I make"


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    #373
    howyegettinon1
    Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭howyegettinon1


    JasonStatham wrote: »
    Thinly veiled "look how much money I make"

    Bollox, everyone is discussing their salaries openly here, why should someone feel bad or be branded with bragging because of the amount they make? Guy sounds happy and came a long way from 25k in 2011 now can pick an choose jobs offering 100k+


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    #374
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Wahl Clippers wrote: »
    35 years old, in my current role 18 months, on 88k. Previous job was 76k, before that was 56k, before that 42k, before that 25k. Left the 25k job at the end of 2011 and then kept moving to get increases in salary.

    I went for an interview for a job this week where the salary is in the 100-110k range. Not sure I'll move this time even if I get it, my CV is starting to look ridiculous if I move now. Ideally would prefer to stay in this job another 2 years to make the CV look better.

    I don’t know what industry you’re in but id tend to disagree about the moving around thing. Recruitment companies & talent/HR departments internally now realize the newer generation and in general today’s world means jobs can be changed easily enough.
    I know plenty of people stay under 2 years in a firm and move on because of salary increases.

    Old fashioned Irish thinking that we have to stay in the same firm and be loyal to them for years just to climb up the greasy rope .


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    #375
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    tim3000 wrote: »
    Jesus this is severely depressing. 31yo male working in a large multinational medical device role. Moved from a quality testing role to a more senior position had to negotiate an increase to match my previous salary which doesn't even crack the 40k mark.

    I am educated to Masters degree level along with several other degrees across 3 disciplines. I just worry that I wouldnt be able for more senior roles.

    And they all tell us med device companies and pharma is where it’s at!!!! Prob takes a long time to get there like anything else. A lot of spoofers on here that would have you believe that they’re a modern day Warren Buffet in their 20s


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    #376
    I am me123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭I am me123


    Yes. Very happy indeed.


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    #377
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,886 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    And they all tell us med device companies and pharma is where it’s at!!!! Prob takes a long time to get there like anything else. A lot of spoofers on here that would have you believe that they’re a modern day Warren Buffet in their 20s

    to be fair, some folks in their 20's are doing reasonably well in their careers, and i wish them well


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    #378
    howyegettinon1
    Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭howyegettinon1


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    to be fair, some folks in their 20's are doing reasonably well in their careers, and i wish them well

    I seen the same thing in the journal comments about some lad making 110k contracting as a developer, there were people there convinced he was lying. 100k is a good paying hob but it doesnt get you anywhere near as far as it would have 10-15 years ago


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    #379
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,729 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Almost 2 years ago now I changed jobs and with that came a bump in seniority and salary/benefits. There was a lot to do but I was brought in to be a key player in moving things forward, manage a team etc

    6 months later my part of the org restructured and when the dust settled my role had significantly changed too - so much so that I'm thinking there could be a case there.

    So now I'm looking for something else, but it's not easy to find something with that equivalent package and original responsibilities coupled with potential and flexibility.

    To add to it all, CV-19 has had a big impact on things too so I reckon it's 50/50 I'll still have a job in a few months anyway.


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    #380
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Same as above, I interviewed with a firm through zoom last week, had the 3 directors on the call. It went very well and I was excited about it. But it's amazing the uncertainty there is. Usually with this firm you'd be seconded out to an American blue chip client, on the project, but the directors couldn't tell me when employees would be heading back out to these projects.

    For now they could only say they want me in the head office in South Dublin to Christmas, but again can't make promises it won't be longer. Means a 1 hour commute on public transport each way instead of 15-20 min drive i have now. Reeeeeaaaaalllllyyyy would hate to go back to that buses, trains, luas craic. Not very green of me but there's a lot to be said for being able to be in control of your own journey each day and driving to and from your place of work.

    I couldn't deal with people on PT the last time I worked in the city.


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    #381
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,886 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Same as above, I interviewed with a firm through zoom last week, had the 3 directors on the call. It went very well and I was excited about it. But it's amazing the uncertainty there is. Usually with this firm you'd be seconded out to an American blue chip client, on the project, but the directors couldn't tell me when employees would be heading back out to these projects.

    For now they could only say they want me in the head office in South Dublin to Christmas, but again can't make promises it won't be longer. Means a 1 hour commute on public transport each way instead of 15-20 min drive i have now. Reeeeeaaaaalllllyyyy would hate to go back to that buses, trains, luas craic. Not very green of me but there's a lot to be said for being able to be in control of your own journey each day and driving to and from your place of work.

    I couldn't deal with people on PT the last time I worked in the city.

    i can understand this, time is very precious to me, particularly my time, if driving my personal vehicle to work is the quickest work to and from work, thats what id more than likely do, i to would struggle to deal with long public transport journeys to and from work


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    #382
    um7y1h83ge06nx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Huge uncertainty out there. I'm on a good salary in IT for a huge company whose stock is considered very safe.

    Despite that I wouldn't be shocked to be out of work in the next year. Between the impact of Covid 19 and Brexit who knows what the future holds.


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    #383
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Well I guess I am poor as **** lol, looking at everyone else. So bad I cant even mention my salary. In the public service. Took a big drop in salary for supposed benefits that didnt really pan out. Cant get promoted no matter what I try. I am as hopeless as can be.


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    #384
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    howyegettinon1 wrote: »
    Its better than emailing him at 6am anyway :D
    Only way to het any decent increase is to have an offer from another company and hand in you notice, preferably at a time they really need you to do something important, otherwise youll only get the absolute bare minimum given to you just to keep you quiet for another year or two
    Nah I've actually hit a bit of a wall on salary. I work for a French company and they have fairly rigid rules on salary scales. The annoying part is that I like the work I do. It's varied, challenging and I think I do a good job, but the it would be difficult to find the same job spec in a different firm. It's that old trade-off between job satisfaction and salary. Prospects of promotion are weak, since my boss is under 50 and also loves his job, selfish bastard.


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    #385
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Nah I've actually hit a bit of a wall on salary. I work for a French company and they have fairly rigid rules on salary scales. The annoying part is that I like the work I do. It's varied, challenging and I think I do a good job, but the it would be difficult to find the same job spec in a different firm. It's that old trade-off between job satisfaction and salary. Prospects of promotion are weak, since my boss is under 50 and also loves his job, selfish bastard.

    Veolia?


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    #386
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Veolia?
    No, just a company with a small Irish office here.

    But have a Luas ticket next time ok?


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    #387
    cloudatlas
    Registered Users Posts: 3,709 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Wow some of the salaries listed on here! Are they after tax? I'd honestly like to hear from more people who aren't in finance, accounting, construction or IT but I'd say they are all intimidated reading this.


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    #388
    Yester
    Registered Users Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭Yester


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    Yep... found a way to live a happy peaceful existence, without needing millions in my bank account.

    Once that particular penny dropped, my "career" became very easy to square away. No real job progression required. I'm more focused on mental progression... the evolution of the mind, and other such lofty and obscure sounding ideals! :)

    Teach us, o wise one.


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    #389
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,886 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Yester wrote: »
    Teach us, o wise one.

    boats and hoes, boats and hoes, boats and hoes!!


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    #390
    Yester
    Registered Users Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭Yester


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    boats and hoes, boats and hoes, boats and hoes!!

    Hoe, hoe, hoe your boat?


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    #391
    Salty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭Salty


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Wow some of the salaries listed on here! Are they after tax? I'd honestly like to hear from more people who aren't in finance, accounting, construction or IT but I'd say they are all intimidated reading this.

    I'm a speech and language therapist. Not working for the HSE. I'm only on €35k...was made redundant in my last job (long story!) but was on €38k there so I have had to take a drop. I had no choice, it was either this or not be employed at all and I need to continue developing my clinical skills. The clinic I work for is amazing though. It is a pity that as a profession we are not more valued. We do work which is specialised and in very high demand, and intense too. The salary does not reflect this.


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