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Are you happy about how your career is progressing?

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    #332
    martin101
    Registered Users Posts: 401 ✭✭martin101


    I'm in an office job and it is soul destroying. People who where once nice have turned on each other. Back stabbing goes on all the time. Lucky for me we are allowed headphones and I wear them all day long. The atmosphere is horrendous. I'm there 20 years and doing pretty much the same thing I did twenty years ago. Only reason I'm still there now is because I am currently working part time to mind my kids half the week and my wife does the same the rest of the week in her job. Only for the flexibility I think I'd leave.


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    #333
    zweton
    Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    For anyone working in data analytics, if your ****e at maths are you pretty much screwed? Heard there's a fair bit.


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    #334
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    I tried a site recommended on here last Zweton - it’s called datacamp. Gave me a basic intro to software eng/data analytics (I believe so anyway). Didn’t see much maths but there appears to be a statistics module which is fairly high end maths I’m told.

    From the stint on datacamp last night I knew it wasn’t for me. Didn’t find it too exciting to say the least


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    #335
    zweton
    Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    Lol yeah I have met one or two that worked in that area and to be fair they seemed to have their soul crushed. Me thinks you would need to love it.


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    #336
    [Deleted User]
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    zweton wrote: »
    For anyone working in data analytics, if your ****e at maths are you pretty much screwed? Heard there's a fair bit.

    I was never a maths whizz but work in Analytics in finance so there's always a bit but rarely anything you can't Google speaking from my own experience.

    I think the trend seems to be that Analysts tend to want to progress into Data Science and thats where the hardcore maths comes into play but this definitely isn't the only progression path in Analytics.

    So I would say no not screwed at all. The best people I've worked with seem to have a good grasp of programming, problem solving and communication skills.


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    #337
    Canyon86
    Registered Users Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    I m 6 years in my current role as a software consultant with a medium size private company,

    Promotions and nepotism are rife in this company, I have been overlooked for various promotions throughout the years, some deserving some not so much,
    I am based on client sites and not in the head office so I feel this is a factor come promotion time

    One thing I have learned for certain,
    Your relationship primarily personal with the higher management determines your career path, very hard to break this cycle,

    I am in the process of buying a house but once this is sorted I will be looking at other opportunities as the software I work on is proper niche


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    #338
    zweton
    Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    Out of curiosity did anyone ever transition out of I.T to something else?


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    #339
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Mildly dissatisfied at how ‘progress’ is careening.


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    #340
    Feisar
    Registered Users Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Feisar


    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    I never worked in construction that is why I am asking. I always thought it was a happy chappy job, well paid finish early on Friday and off to the pub, craic with the lads on the site and great pay while you are young compared with other professions.

    Construction is an open air asylum. Populated with lunatics, idiots, sociopaths, alcoholics, narcissists and me! And liars, I fuppin' hate liars.

    First they came for the socialists...



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    #341
    [Deleted User]
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    zweton wrote: »
    Out of curiosity did anyone ever transition out of I.T to something else?

    My best friend in college - After getting a degree in Computer Science nearly 20 years ago - worked in IT for about 6 months before saying "F this" and flying to Japan. He has been an English Teacher there ever since.

    So there is hope we can get out eventually :)


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    #342
    Kamu
    Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Kamu


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    My best friend in college - After getting a degree in Computer Science nearly 20 years ago - worked in IT for about 6 months before saying "F this" and flying to Japan. He has been an English Teacher there ever since.

    So there is hope we can get out eventually :)

    What do you think of the fact that most people are looking to switch careers into IT?


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    #343
    [Deleted User]
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    Kamu wrote: »
    What do you think of the fact that most people are looking to switch careers into IT?

    I don't :) I was only being tongue in cheek about wanting to get out of it. I moderately enjoy it and have maintained a good work-life balance in it so far. Had to turn down promotion and raises and the like to do that alas - but it was the right decision for me so far.


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    #344
    Kamu
    Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Kamu


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I don't :) I was only being tongue in cheek about wanting to get out of it. I moderately enjoy it and have maintained a good work-life balance in it so far. Had to turn down promotion and raises and the like to do that alas - but it was the right decision for me so far.

    Ah fair enough, happy to hear you kept it on your terms as much as you can!


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    #345
    [Deleted User]
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    Kamu wrote: »
    Ah fair enough, happy to hear you kept it on your terms as much as you can!

    Yeah me too. I hope it stays that way. If I ever lose this job then all those decisions will massively back fire on me. I will have a CV that shows more than a decade with little to no career progression. It will suck.

    So it was/is a gamble. But one I am so far very happy I have made.


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    #346
    antimatterx
    Registered Users Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    Kamu wrote: »
    What do you think of the fact that most people are looking to switch careers into IT?

    I don't think most people realize what they are getting into tbh. It sounds nice from the outside because there's money in it. That's true, but it's a hard job, and it takes years to earn good money.


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    #347
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    Probably a stupid question, but unless you’ve a standing desk are you literally sat at a desk all day in IT? I do that in my current industry and definitely don’t want to do that


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    #348
    antimatterx
    Registered Users Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭antimatterx


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Probably a stupid question, but unless you’ve a standing desk are you literally sat at a desk all day in IT? I do that in my current industry and definitely don’t want to do that

    You walk around a fair bit. Walking to meeting rooms, desk dropping, coffee breaks. You can also get standing desks.


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    #349
    chrissb8
    Registered Users Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Probably a stupid question, but unless you’ve a standing desk are you literally sat at a desk all day in IT? I do that in my current industry and definitely don’t want to do that

    If you're going to work in IT dude, you'll more than likely have a day or two a week working from home. Know people who work in IT and one guy in particular lives in Galway and goes and tends to some animals throughout the days he's home!

    Otherwise just as active as any other office job.


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    #350
    mark_jmc
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭mark_jmc


    41 years old, HR Manager in a MN (joined this company 4 months ago) very happy, pay is at the appropriate range for the industry and there’s good scope for development within my salary band. Pension & bens are good also. But the main thing for me is that I actually really enjoy my job and there’s great scope to get involved in things on a European/ global scale in the future. I had a serious illness a number of years ago and it really made me think about what I wanted to get out of life/work and I think I’m getting that balance right for me


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    #351
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    mark_jmc wrote: »
    41 years old, HR Manager in a MN (joined this company 4 months ago) very happy, pay is at the appropriate range for the industry and there’s good scope for development within my salary band. Pension & bens are good also. But the main thing for me is that I actually really enjoy my job and there’s great scope to get involved in things on a European/ global scale in the future. I had a serious illness a number of years ago and it really made me think about what I wanted to get out of life/work and I think I’m getting that balance right for me

    were you always in HR yeah? Looked at it a few times, one of the professions that's dominated by women, I couldn't see mid range - high salaries in it though..


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    #352
    mark_jmc
    Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭mark_jmc


    Yeah, in HR for the last 16 years. Depending on size of company/ industry HR manager basic salary could range between around 50-90k + benefits. HR Director/ Head of HR 100-150k basic salary + bens. It’s all relative- some people could see these salaries as being very high, for others it may not float their boat. Generally to get a senior role in HR you’d need a masters degree,10 years + experience. I really enjoy my role especially working in a company where HR is seen as a valuable partner to the business.


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    #353
    CBear1993
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭CBear1993


    mark_jmc wrote: »
    Yeah, in HR for the last 16 years. Depending on size of company/ industry HR manager basic salary could range between around 50-90k + benefits. HR Director/ Head of HR 100-150k basic salary + bens. It’s all relative- some people could see these salaries as being very high, for others it may not float their boat. Generally to get a senior role in HR you’d need a masters degree,10 years + experience. I really enjoy my role especially working in a company where HR is seen as a valuable partner to the business.

    That's unreal even upto the 90k!!

    Yeah Its becoming more and more integral, you see a lot of companies who would have never had a HR department recruiting more people all the time. Unfortunately in construction I see the HR staff getting a torrid time, office politics and all that.


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    #354
    Gorteen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    55 year old in public service on €93k + expenses. At top of profession and terribly disillusioned at the waste, the incompetence, the bureaucracy and the mindless bowing to interest groups, whether unions, politicians, local media, etc. Retirement can not come quick enough!


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    #355
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    CBear1993 wrote: »
    Probably a stupid question, but unless you’ve a standing desk are you literally sat at a desk all day in IT? I do that in my current industry and definitely don’t want to do that

    Mine tends to be very staggered hours on my own initiative. I'm working as a project manager on IT migration and IT infrastructure projects in the Finance industry spanning across a 18 hour time zone difference with members based in US, Europe and Asia. Sometimes when issues arise, I need all 3 regions to collaborate together which can be tricky.

    For me there is no real set hours outside a daily team meeting I have at 3pm with key personnel and a weekly checkpoint meeting. As long as I can ensure things are ticking, address issues and escalate where required and report into seniors every two weeks that we are making progress no questions are asked. In turn the seniors collate this info and pass to company executives quarterly.

    As a project manager, the main thing for me is getting the planning, roles and responsibilities and reporting structures right when initiating the project. Doing this correctly gives me a lot of flexible hours during the project where I can take quite a few days off last minute when needed or just work flexibly during a day running errands etc. Sometimes when I'm mobile I will be writing notes as I go etc and forward to my inbox.

    This way of working suits me and is proven by what has been delivered. I'm lucky I fell in with a great company and great people who do not micromanage and trust everyone's ability. I am the same with my teams and let them get on with it with full trust in their skillsets and a confidence to raise any issues if they need to and without finger pointing. We are human, mistakes happen. It is probably not everyone's cup of tea but it works for me.


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    #356
    John Doe1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭John Doe1


    At the moment I am,

    I was working in a soul destroying job unrelated to my degree where there was constant micromanagement and bitching. Also, a male team leader started sexually harassing me (I'm straight). I had a recurrence of depression/anxiety there and couldnt hack it any more so resigned with only a few days notice.

    I thought this decision was going to be awful for my career and was prepared for the worst.

    Instead, last week I accepted a job at one of the most reputable companies in Ireland for double my previous salary in the area i studied and 100 metres from my apartment door. I was very lucky!


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    #357
    howyegettinon1
    Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭howyegettinon1


    Very happy, got kicked out of school at 16 and lived of the state having fun and selling weed till my 20s
    Put the head down, got loada cisco exams, 7 years later Im contracting pulling in about 110k a year plus expenses and overtime, mostly from home rarely working more than 40 hours a week


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    #358
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I thought I was happy with how my career was progressing until I read this thread.

    Does it make me sound like I have a coke habit if I email my boss before 9am on a Saturday morning frantically asking for a pay-rise?


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    #359
    howyegettinon1
    Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭howyegettinon1


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    I thought I was happy with how my career was progressing until I read this thread.

    Does it make me sound like I have a coke habit if I email my boss before 9am on a Saturday morning frantically asking for a pay-rise?

    Its better than emailing him at 6am anyway :D
    Only way to het any decent increase is to have an offer from another company and hand in you notice, preferably at a time they really need you to do something important, otherwise youll only get the absolute bare minimum given to you just to keep you quiet for another year or two


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    #360
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Yep... found a way to live a happy peaceful existence, without needing millions in my bank account.

    Once that particular penny dropped, my "career" became very easy to square away. No real job progression required. I'm more focused on mental progression... the evolution of the mind, and other such lofty and obscure sounding ideals! :)


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    howyegettinon1
    Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭howyegettinon1


    Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »
    Yep... found a way to live a happy peaceful existence, without needing millions in my bank account.

    Once that particular penny dropped, my "career" became very easy to square away. No real job progression required. I'm more focused on mental progression... the evolution of the mind, and other such lofty and obscure sounding ideals! :)

    Your absolutely right definitely more to life than money and chasing a position on a ladder, but there nothing wrong with making boat load of money either as long as your not sacrificing your life, sanity or integrity for it. I suspect your no stranger to psychedelics?


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