Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Boggles · 18-07-2020 05:12PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Theres a delay in reporting somewhere between HSE and HPSC. Its extremely frustrating

Ah Jaysus, what is it half an hour / hour later we get that actual numbers?

Santy2015 · 18-07-2020 05:16PM

Danno wrote: »

Not directed at you Santy, but what kind of crap is this from the authorities?

Either someone has the fcuking virus or they don't.

Then there are de-notifications into the bargain too.

Can these overpaid fools at the top not bloody well count right now? Guarantee you they are able to count their plush bonuses though. :mad:

Like Citizen said he finds it hard to believe that 7 private positive tests were added today and I’d feel the same about the possibility that 10 were added from private hospitals yesterday as well.
If it is the case they need to be more clear about it and why is there so many coming from private tests

ACitizenErased · 18-07-2020 05:17PM

Santy2015 wrote: »

Like Citizen said he finds it hard to believe that 7 private positive tests were added today and I’d feel the same about the possibility that 10 were added from private hospitals yesterday as well.
If it is the case they need to be more clear about it and why is there so many coming from private tests

Maybe they have outsourced some testing? Wonder if Germany's back up and running.

Martina1991 · 18-07-2020 05:18PM

ACitizenErased wrote:

Is it realistic that there were 7 (21 confirmed - 14 HSE positive) confirmed private hospital tests in the last 24 hours? That seems quite high to me. Or maybe the HSE have sent some of the nursing home tests there?

I dont know for sure. But these cases have to be coming from somewhere.

There are 18 private hospitals in Ireland (according to the private hospital assoc). They're all playing catch up with postponed procedures so i would say there could well be 7 in a day.

Private hospitals are completely separate to the HSE. Nursing home tests are processed by the NVRL. Healthcare worker tests should be processed by their local hospital lab.

ACitizenErased · 18-07-2020 05:19PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

I dont know for sure. But these cases have to be coming from somewhere.

There are 18 private hospitals in Ireland (according to the private hospital assoc). They're all playing catch up with postponed procedures so i would say there could well be 7 in a day.

Private hospitals are completely separate to the HSE. Nursing home tests are processed by the NVRL. Healthcare worker tests should be processed by their local hospital lab.

I'd say you're spot on there so

Santy2015 · 18-07-2020 05:19PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Maybe they have outsourced some testing? Wonder if Germany's back up and running.

They haven’t mentioned Germany in a long time though. With the private hospitals possible cases then I’d find that more of a concern there’s so many coming from them

Non solum non ambulabit · 18-07-2020 05:20PM

Boggles wrote: »

Ah Jaysus, what is it half an hour / hour later we get that actual numbers?

That is not the discussion we are having

boggerman1 · 18-07-2020 05:23PM

Danno wrote: »

Not directed at you Santy, but what kind of crap is this from the authorities?

Either someone has the fcuking virus or they don't.

Then there are de-notifications into the bargain too.

Can these overpaid fools at the top not bloody well count right now? Guarantee you they are able to count their plush bonuses though. :mad:

The scare mongering has to be kept going at all costs.I’ve been sceptical of these nightly figures for a good while now.

iamwhoiam · 18-07-2020 05:23PM

Debenhams workers protest on the news , very few masks , no social distancing and to top it all all singing some protest song loudly

Professor Moriarty · 18-07-2020 05:28PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

21 from nearly 10,000 tests is actually not a bad number at all now that I think about it

Works out at 0.21% positive test rate. Today, Idaho is at 16%.

Harry Palmr · 18-07-2020 05:31PM

the moving 7 day average is to smooth out these humps and bumps. The current cases per day are "baked in" since late June/early July

160 cases July 11th - July 18th, so 23 daily average.

Plumbthedepths · 18-07-2020 05:34PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Debenhams workers protest on the news , very few masks , no social distancing and to top it all all singing some protest song loudly

Outside?

Beanybabog · 18-07-2020 05:48PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Currently we're getting a higher number of confirmed cases than positive tests by the HSE

Are they including suspected cases? Like they were with deaths that got denotified after

US2 · 18-07-2020 05:54PM

Wish Citezenerased and Stephen were asking questions at the briefings rather than zara and fergal

Lyle · 18-07-2020 05:55PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Works out at 0.21% positive test rate. Today, Idaho is at 16%.

A lot of the US sounds like they have a serious 5 - 10 day lag in reporting to boot so it could be even worse!

Our daily cases now have become a bit of a joke with the discrepancies and seemingly random reporting delays from various data points, but our 7 day average is holding fairly steady and that's the key indicator to look to now, I think. Its reassuring to see we can jump by thousands of tests a day as well recently, like the 24hr shifting from 4500 - 9000+ tests. That's reassuring to me anyway, especially when the cases stemming from that hold steady as well.

ShineOn7 · 18-07-2020 05:56PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No idea where these numbers are coming from given the postive tests reported on dashboard.

Should today's cases been higher or lower?

ACitizenErased · 18-07-2020 05:58PM

US2 wrote: »

Wish Citezenerased and Stephen were asking questions at the briefings rather than zara and fergal

i'd love to go

caveat emptor · 18-07-2020 05:59PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Should today's cases been higher or lower?

Watching this thread is like.....

is_that_so · 18-07-2020 06:01PM

Lyle wrote: »

A lot of the US sounds like they have a serious 5 - 10 day lag in reporting to boot so it could be even worse!

Our daily cases now have become a bit of a joke with the discrepancies and seemingly random reporting delays from various data points, but our 7 day average is holding fairly steady and that's the key indicator to look to now, I think. Its reassuring to see we can jump by thousands of tests a day as well recently, like the 24hr shifting from 4500 - 9000+ tests. That's reassuring to me anyway, especially when the cases stemming from that hold steady as well.

They've been in about the same band for a few weeks now: 10-35 cases. We've had some new clusters so you'd expect numbers from those and R0 has crept up over that terrifying 1.0. On the positive side we've few cases in hospital and the positivity rate is between 0.2% and about 0.4%. That sounds good to me on balance.

Drumpot · 18-07-2020 06:01PM

Ambulance outside a neighbors house. It’s a young family. Saw the father coming out with his face covered but the ambulance is staying there.

Is this how they do mobile tests?

Professor Moriarty · 18-07-2020 06:02PM

Lyle wrote: »

A lot of the US sounds like they have a serious 5 - 10 day lag in reporting to boot so it could be even worse!

Our daily cases now have become a bit of a joke with the discrepancies and seemingly random reporting delays from various data points, but our 7 day average is holding fairly steady and that's the key indicator to look to now, I think. Its reassuring to see we can jump by thousands of tests a day as well recently, like the 24hr shifting from 4500 - 9000+ tests. That's reassuring to me anyway, especially when the cases stemming from that hold steady as well.

Idaho's rate is from Thursday and it's a 7 day average.

Strazdas · 18-07-2020 06:06PM

Drumpot wrote: »

Ambulance outside a neighbors house. It’s a young family. Saw the father coming out with his face covered but the ambulance is staying there.

Is this how they do mobile tests?

I believe so, yes. Paramedics call to the house and conduct the test there.

ShineOn7 · 18-07-2020 06:10PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Watching this thread is like.....

manofwisdom · 18-07-2020 06:21PM

Cases in each county the last week

Dublin 91
Kildare 15
Cork 10
Wicklow 12
Louth 6
Meath 5
Wexford 5
Galway 4
Carlow 3
Cavan 3
Donegal 3
Clare 1
Kerry 1
Sligo 1
Waterford 1
Monaghan 1
Leitrim 1
Offaly 1
Westmeath 1
Kilkenny 0
Longford 0
Laois 0
Mayo 0
Tipperary 0
Roscommon 0
Limerick 0

ShineOn7 · 18-07-2020 06:26PM

manofwisdom wrote: »

Cases in each county the last week

Dublin 91
Kildare 15
Cork 10
Wicklow 12
Louth 6
Meath 5
Wexford 5
Galway 4
Carlow 3
Cavan 3
Donegal 3
Clare 1
Kerry 1
Sligo 1
Waterford 1
Monaghan 1
Leitrim 1
Offaly 1
Westmeath 1
Kilkenny 0
Longford 0
Laois 0
Mayo 0
Tipperary 0
Roscommon 0
Limerick 0

Dublin has been riddled with this the most since day one

But has any capital that acts as it's country's main hub not had the same kind of figures?

Has their been a single exception? (New Zealand and countries that have pretty much completely dodged this bullet aside)

Genuinely curious

US2 · 18-07-2020 06:42PM

Strazdas wrote: »

I believe so, yes. Paramedics call to the house and conduct the test there.

This could put people off getting tested. The whole neighbourhood knowing your getting it.

JP Liz V1 · 18-07-2020 06:55PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think the mood has changed in how this is being related to the public. In part because of the new government and in part because of Glynn. He's very good in the job but he just does not quite have that skill of public engagement as Holohan does.

I think both Glynn and the "new" government need to get on the same page and be clear in what they are saying and ffs to stay awake also

ACitizenErased · 18-07-2020 06:58PM

Apparently theres an opinion poll coming out in the mail on Sunday tomorrow and its gonna be big, I’m guessing people are sick of FF

JP Liz V1 · 18-07-2020 07:06PM

niallo27 wrote: »

What is the logic, we went out last night. 3 pints first, few chicken wings then 5 more pints. Nearly 5 hours and we could have drank for longer. If normal pubs offered table service I dont really see the difference or the logic myself.

So 90 minutes is all talk only not implemented

podgeandrodge · 18-07-2020 07:11PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Pubs can’t open. Restaurants can. They needed to define a restaurant, so they went with a place that serves food and maybe also alcohol. But you need a definition of food then as well. How they got to a €9 meal being the definition I don’t know, but it needed to be something.

Just like everything else, relaxing restrictions doesn’t mean that the things you can now do are 100% safe, it just means they’re lower risk. Restaurants are safer than pubs. Gatherings of less than 500 are safer than gatherings of more than 500. Its relative. But when they put a limit on stuff you’ll always have the hilarious comedians saying stuff like “oh so 499 is safe but add another person and we’re all gonna die lol” or “glad I had my €9 meal and now I’m safe”.

But it's still the case that if a pub serving no food kept the same social distancing implementation as a pub serving food, there is no difference in terms of risk.

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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