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  • #4742
    Morrison J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    Like healthcare workers who wore medical grade masks and still managed to be 1/3, ONE-THIRD, 33% of the cases.

    Well yeah, better than the figures would've been if the healthcare workers didn't wear masks aren't they?

    If making masks mandatory saves one person from getting the virus it's worth it. Been a total non-brainer from the start.


  • #4743
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Any evidence whatsoever that wearing a surgical or cotton mask has triggered such a reaction?
    Regardless, those are all very high risk conditions for coronavirus.
    Suggest spaces where mask weaing is mandated are avoided by such individuals for obvious reasons.

    May I suggest mask-obsessed just avoid public spaces?


  • #4744
    Pablo Escobar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭Pablo Escobar


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    Evidence of 3x the amount of Carbon dioxide inhalation because of masks. This is far higher than the recommended amount of CO2 and is dangerous.

    Just as well that was de-bunked then https://www.bbc.com/news/53108405

    It would be interesting if you could post your source actually.


  • #4745
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,702 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    na1 wrote: »
    May I suggest mask-obsessed just avoid public spaces?

    Alas it would take too long for the virus to kill off or build herd immunity in those too selfish or myopic to wear masks for that to be viable.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #4746
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    Like healthcare workers who wore medical grade masks and still managed to be 1/3, ONE-THIRD, 33% of the cases.

    There's pictures posted somewhere of healthcare workers getting close and hugging each other on their lunch breaks without wearing masks.

    I see this in shops from shop workers as well. Have a screen between the shop worker and customer but then turn around and get close to their colleague. It's like people thinking that people you know are immune from this but others you don't know are diseased.

    You can't trust anyone with this because you don't see virus particles and respiratory droplets that people love to share around.


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  • #4747
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Any evidence whatsoever that wearing a surgical or cotton mask has triggered such a reaction?
    .

    Wearing cotton masks for longer than couple hours can actually be more dangerous than not wearing it.

    Different bacteria colonies are extremely fast growing in a warm & humid environment of your cotton mask!!

    This mean you need to change disposable mask (2 euro each) every 2 hours.

    And how do they enforce it (changing masks every 2 hours)?


  • #4748
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    Pablo Escobar wrote: »
    Just as well that was de-bunked then https://www.bbc.com/news/53108405

    It would be interesting if you could post your source actually.

    Err. Well that article absolutely does not say it's "de-bunked".


  • #4749
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    Like healthcare workers who wore medical grade masks and still managed to be 1/3, ONE-THIRD, 33% of the cases.

    A lot of those cases were early on when the suitable PPE was not available and before they divided areas such as A/E and certain wards into covid and non covid. Those staff had to stay only on those wards and not go elsewhere.

    Also some of those cases were possibly related to taking on and off gowns etc as a similar problem was discovered to be the case in HCW catching Ebola and was quickly rectified with education. SOme was also associated with travel.


  • #4750
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Alas it would take too long for the virus to kill off or build herd immunity in those too selfish or myopic to wear masks for that to be viable.

    At the moment I can see 1200 people died due to COVID implications

    And God knows how many will die in the following yeas of not been diagnosed, or properly treated by hospitals during lockdown.


  • #4751
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    No: other
    Good thing masks help avoid further lockdowns then isn't it?


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  • #4752
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,346 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Yes: surgical
    Good to see they are considering making masks mandatory in indoor areas. Shame about the pubs though :(


  • #4753
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    Stark wrote: »
    Good thing masks help avoid further lockdowns then isn't it?

    How exactly masks can help avoiding further lockdowns?


  • #4754
    YellowBucket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭YellowBucket


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    If you're referencing wikipedia. I will suggest [CITATION NEEDED] for you claim!

    This is a forum full of trolls, not an academic journal and that article has 17 references.


  • #4755
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    alentejo wrote: »
    I see mandatory masks for shops......
    then it will be for offices......
    then it will be for all outdoor activity.........
    might then make it mandatory for you to wear in your own house.............

    and we will spend years unravelling this..........

    Since cotton masks are not good enough, I can see a compulsory carbon filter poly-carbonate masks 100 quid each with disposable filters 10e per day supply.


  • #4756
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Ah well normal services resumed. Being governed by a bunch of clueless bullsh1tters just gauging whatever way the wind blows for their 'decision making'. Even down to the pathetic kite flying.

    I said it after the election, before COVID. How anyone could vote down FG down and these clowns back in is beyond me. Not that I love FG but at least they have shown some competence.


  • #4757
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    https://twitter.com/IrishVoice1/status/1283400002417688580?s=19


  • #4758
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    No: other
    GT89 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/IrishVoice1/status/1283400002417688580?s=19
    Eh, 27 serves Darndale, so good luck!


  • #4759
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    GT89 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/IrishVoice1/status/1283400002417688580?s=19
    is_that_so wrote: »
    Eh, 27 serves Darndale, so good luck!

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/french-bus-driver-dies-after-attack-by-passengers-who-refused-to-wear-masks-1.4302590


  • #4760
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    is_that_so wrote: »
    Eh, 27 serves Darndale, so good luck!

    It's the video you should give a watch. Proves masks are not very effective.


  • #4761
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    GT89 wrote: »
    It's the video you should give a watch. Proves masks are not very effective.

    The good masks are effective, but they are quite expensive and require regular filter change...


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  • #4762
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    na1 wrote: »
    The good masks are effective, but they are quite expensive and require regular filter change...

    The vast majority only have the cheap ones. These masks are not that effective.


  • #4763
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    No: other
    GT89 wrote: »
    It's the video you should give a watch. Proves masks are not very effective.
    Irish Voice
    Pro Life, Pro Free speech, Against mass uncontrolled immigration. The only real prison is fear, and the only real freedom is freedom from fear.

    Sounds like a voice you can trust alright :rolleyes: I'll stick to the doctors advice thanks.


  • #4764
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    No: other
    GT89 wrote: »
    It's the video you should give a watch. Proves masks are not very effective.
    So, I see. Well at least they learnt something.


  • #4765
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Stark wrote: »
    Sounds like a voice you can trust alright :rolleyes: I'll stick to the doctors advice thanks.

    Broaden your mind. Switch off the mainstream media


  • #4766
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    They're still saying cough or sneeze into your elbow even if your wearing a mask. So what's the point on wearing a mask if you cough or sneeze into elbow.


  • #4767
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Yes: valved
    GT89 wrote: »
    They're still saying cough or sneeze into your elbow even if your wearing a mask. So what's the point on wearing a mask if you cough or sneeze into elbow.

    Aerosols get released from just talking and breathing. These aerosols can infect others.


  • #4768
    Be right back
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,358 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Got these in Dunnes, 5 for a fiver.


  • #4769
    ExMachina1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Who is enforcing the wearing of masks on public transport?


  • #4770
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend
    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Aerosols get released from just talking and breathing. These aerosols can infect others.

    Well the video proves these aerosols can get through the mask or maybe you think people should use their elbow instead as a face covering


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  • #4771
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    Stark wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

    Your scenario has never happened anywhere else where they've temporarily made masks mandatory for epidemic control purposes so don't see why it would happen here.

    Mandatory masks never prove to be efficient or any good for fighting the virus.

    Maybe just for the masks manufacturers/retailers...


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