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  • #4712
    Postgrad10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Postgrad10


    Yes: other
    Postgrad10 wrote: »
    Noticeable improvement of mask and face covering wearing in Lidl today. Different age groups too. No big effort required. Just people getting on with it.

    You could be right. It was 11. I usually wouldn’t shop until the afternoon/ evening.

    They are making it compulsory for shops in England from next week. We won’t be far behind.


  • #4713
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    No: other
    Hurrache wrote: »
    Not much of a choice is there, you won't be let in or served if you don't.

    Pretty much the way it has to be, I am also all for mask use. Just hoping it won't be another public transport situation. Most likely will be easier to enforce in shops though


  • #4714
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    No: other
    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    Pretty much the way it has to be, I am also all for mask use. Just hoping it won't be another public transport situation. Most likely will be easier to enforce in shops though

    Yeah you dont have to have somone monitoring the door, you could just tell them to leave when the approach they counter, at least for the smaller shops. Supermarkets already have a presence at the door so not too difficult to implement for them.


  • #4715
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Sconsey wrote: »
    Yeah you dont have to have somone monitoring the door, you could just tell them to leave when the approach they counter, at least for the smaller shops. Supermarkets already have a presence at the door so not too difficult to implement for them.

    Most supermarkets seem to have moved away from that, well the ones near me have anyway. All have sensors and screens up saying how many in the store and a traffic light system


  • #4716
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    No: other
    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Most supermarkets seem to have moved away from that, well the ones near me have anyway. All have sensors and screens up saying how many in the store and a traffic light system

    Fancy...not my local auld Dunnes.


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  • #4717
    Elmer Blooker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1283411394155761665?s=20

    Will be interesting to see how enforcement with this works
    No date given by the government which is odd? You would think with such a deadly virus among us it would come into immediate effect. Is the virus on hold until a date is chosen by the government?


  • #4718
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Most supermarkets seem to have moved away from that, well the ones near me have anyway. All have sensors and screens up saying how many in the store and a traffic light system

    Not Tesco here. They haven't even a staff member at the door telling you which unlabelled bottle is surface cleaner or hand sanitizer. Dunnes have staff wiping down trollies and ensuring you sanitise your hands. Lidl have nobody at the door and a spray with paper towels to wipe trollies but no sanitiser.


  • #4719
    Morrison J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1283411394155761665?s=20

    Will be interesting to see how enforcement with this works

    Genuinely good to see how much more proactive we're being in terms of mask wearing now. If only Holohan/Leo/Harris had it in them to do this 4 months prior.


  • #4720
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    No: I don't care enough
    On the plus side, they're all amazingly cheap to buy now, resuable ones for around a coin each, even with pockets for inserting additional filters*
    *Vacum cleaner bags or coffee filters (both fine weave).

    There was s suggestion ages ago soaking in salt, then drying with particles remaining will destroy the covid envelope on contact, silver nano sprays are also available.
    Wouldn't wear much, except for crowded indoor places such as shops.

    If folks use them into Winter Norovirus and the other InfA/B seasonal bugs might also get largely reduced.


  • #4721
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1283411394155761665?s=20

    Will be interesting to see how enforcement with this works

    Imagine making a law based on 'well, it's better than doing nothing *shrug*'. Shocking.

    Any evidence of the safety of prolonged mask wearing? Can imagine that inhaling carbon dioxide constantly couldn't be good for you.


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  • #4722
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Genuinely good to see how much more proactive we're being in terms of mask wearing now. If only Holohan/Leo/Harris had it in them to do this 4 months prior.

    What would that have achieved? Community spread was 0.


  • #4723
    alentejo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭alentejo


    I see mandatory masks for shops......
    then it will be for offices......
    then it will be for all outdoor activity.........
    might then make it mandatory for you to wear in your own house.............

    and we will spend years unravelling this..........


  • #4724
    Morrison J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    What would that have achieved? Community spread was 0.

    Saving lives and stopping the spread of the virus?


  • #4725
    YellowBucket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭YellowBucket


    Just came out of a SuperValu in the Cork suburbs - maybe 2 ppl wearing masks and no staff.

    It seems to be very random and varied from what I can see. Their use on busses seems to be universal now.


  • #4726
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Saving lives and stopping the spread of the virus?

    No. The community spread was 0.


  • #4727
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    No: other
    alentejo wrote: »
    I see mandatory masks for shops......
    then it will be for offices......
    then it will be for all outdoor activity.........
    might then make it mandatory for you to wear in your own house.............

    and we will spend years unravelling this..........

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

    Your scenario has never happened anywhere else where they've temporarily made masks mandatory for epidemic control purposes so don't see why it would happen here.


  • #4728
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    Stark wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

    Your scenario has never happened anywhere else where they've temporarily made masks mandatory for epidemic control purposes so don't see why it would happen here.

    Well it's happening. A football group I am on will not play w/o masks. PLAYING FOOTBALL WITH MASKS! Mad.


  • #4729
    Morrison J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    No. The community spread was 0.

    You do realize that wearing masks could've helped prevent community spread sky rocketing too right?


  • #4730
    YellowBucket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭YellowBucket


    Sure we used them before in 1918 and that’s been long forgotten.


  • #4731
    alentejo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭alentejo


    YellowBucket wrote: »
    Sure we used them before in 1918 and that’s been long forgotten.

    Yes used in 1918 and there was a second wave in 1919! (Which was more deadly)


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  • #4732
    Elmer Blooker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    Imagine making a law based on 'well, it's better than doing nothing *shrug*'. Shocking.

    Any evidence of the safety of prolonged mask wearing? Can imagine that inhaling carbon dioxide constantly couldn't be good for you.
    For those with heart conditions, pulmonary hypertension and the shortness of breath associated with these conditions not getting enough oxygen is dangerous and life threatening.
    You don't have to be old to have these conditions btw.


  • #4733
    YellowBucket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭YellowBucket


    alentejo wrote: »
    Yes used in 1918 and there was a second wave in 1919! (Which was more deadly)

    Yeah they also used them during that and there were a load of utterly irrational anti-mask protesters in the USA throwing massive hissy fits about and who likely helped to let it spread.

    Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Mask_League_of_San_Francisco


  • #4734
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    No: other
    Elmer Blooker wrote: »
    For those with heart conditions, pulmonary hypertension and the shortness of breath associated with these conditions not getting enough oxygen is dangerous and life threatening.
    You don't have to be old to have these conditions btw.

    Good thing they don't stop you getting enough oxygen then isn't it?
    Hurrache wrote: »
    A cross post from another thread to fight off the ignorance and misinformation......



    Several doctors, who wear masks daily for years, have posted videos showing them putting on masks, testing their blood oxygen levels at different points, and showing no issue. One guy even wore several masks simultaneously without a problem.

    https://twitter.com/drjoshuawolrich/status/1281310674833063939


  • #4735
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    No: other
    Morrison J wrote: »
    You do realize that wearing masks could've helped prevent community spread sky rocketing too right?
    Staying at home actually did that.


  • #4736
    Morrison J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Staying at home actually did that.

    It did. Forcing those who couldn't stay at home to wear masks obviously would've helped too.


  • #4737
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,711 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Elmer Blooker wrote: »
    For those with heart conditions, pulmonary hypertension and the shortness of breath associated with these conditions not getting enough oxygen is dangerous and life threatening.
    You don't have to be old to have these conditions btw.

    Any evidence whatsoever that wearing a surgical or cotton mask has triggered such a reaction?
    Regardless, those are all very high risk conditions for coronavirus.
    Suggest spaces where mask weaing is mandated are avoided by such individuals for obvious reasons.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #4738
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    Morrison J wrote: »
    It did. Forcing those who couldn't stay at home to wear masks obviously would've helped too.

    Like healthcare workers who wore medical grade masks and still managed to be 1/3, ONE-THIRD, 33% of the cases.


  • #4739
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Any evidence whatsoever that wearing a surgical or cotton mask has triggered such a reaction?
    Regardless, those are all very high risk conditions for coronavirus.
    Suggest spaces where mask weaing is mandated are avoided by such individuals for obvious reasons.

    Evidence of 3x the amount of Carbon dioxide inhalation because of masks. This is far higher than the recommended amount of CO2 and is dangerous.


  • #4740
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    YellowBucket wrote: »
    Yeah they also used them during that and there were a load of utterly irrational anti-mask protesters in the USA throwing massive hissy fits about and who likely helped to let it spread.

    Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Mask_League_of_San_Francisco

    If you're referencing wikipedia. I will suggest [CITATION NEEDED] for you claim!


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  • #4741
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    Evidence of 3x the amount of Carbon dioxide inhalation because of masks. This is far higher than the recommended amount of CO2 and is dangerous.

    What evidence? Citation needed right back at you.


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