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Slave Trader Edward Colston's statue torn down in Bristol

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    #2612
    Junkyard Tom
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    Sing it brother.

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    #2613
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Sing it brother.

    Books aren't history either. Sure they're bits of ink on pages made from wood fibres.


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    #2614
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    2u2me wrote: »
    Books aren't history either. Sure they're bits of ink on pages made from wood fibres.

    You should start a blog with your insightful takes so people can go there for the comedy.


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    #2615
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,454 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    2u2me wrote: »
    Books aren't history either. Sure they're bits of ink on pages made from wood fibres.

    Don't give him encouragement to burn books.

    As Heinrich Heine said in the early 1800s.
    "Where they burn books, they will too in the end burn people".

    No matches for Tom.


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    #2616
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,277 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Danzy wrote: »
    Don't give him encouragement to burn books.

    As Heinrich Heine said in the early 1800s.
    "Where they burn books, they will too in the end burn people".

    No matches for Tom.

    who has mentioned or even thought of burning books? only you have which is very telling.


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    #2617
    2u2me
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    who has mentioned or even thought of burning books? only you have which is very telling.

    Do you think once they have all the statues down they'll be happy and go home?


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    #2618
    joe40
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    2u2me wrote: »
    Books aren't history either. Sure they're bits of ink on pages made from wood fibres.

    They are record of history, when properly researched. Statues are not.


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    #2619
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,277 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    2u2me wrote: »
    Do you think once they have all the statues down they'll be happy and go home?

    all the statues? every single one?


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    #2620
    robinph
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    A pub is looking for suggestions for a new name:

    https://www.facebook.com/bbcradiobristol/photos/a.592384134152030/3136920566365028/?type=3&theater


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    #2621
    2u2me
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    all the statues? every single one?

    I can see how you wrack up so many posts now. Asking stupid questions like this that don't advance the conversation. Perhaps if you answered questions put to you the conversation would flow better; rather than throwing snarky, sarcastic, obfuscating questions around.


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    #2622
    [Deleted User]
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    who has mentioned or even thought of burning books? only you have which is very telling.

    Nobody has mentioned burning books.... Yet the ****ing golden girls have had episodes which were "problematic" taken down and not available.

    But yeah, censorship of books is not on the agenda.


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    #2623
    1800_Ladladlad
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    EbwGPzfUEAAA8DC?format=jpg&name=large

    I wouldn't put it past them all crawling up the building like something out of world war z tho


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    #2624
    Cupatae
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    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    EbwGPzfUEAAA8DC?format=jpg&name=large

    I wouldn't put it past them all crawling up the building like something out of world war z tho

    thats the best thing ive seen all day :D:D :pac:


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    #2625
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    :-)

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/15/edward-colston-statue-replaced-by-sculpture-of-black-lives-matter-protester
    The statue of slave trader Edward Colston was replaced in Bristol on Wednesday morning – with a sculpture of one of the protesters whose anger brought him down.

    The figure of Jen Reid, who was photographed standing on the plinth with her fist raised after the 17th century merchant was toppled by Black Lives Matter demonstrators last month, was erected at dawn by a team directed by the artist Marc Quinn.


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    #2626
    is_that_so
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    This happened early this morning. I hope they keep it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/15/edward-colston-statue-replaced-by-sculpture-of-black-lives-matter-protester
    Can't say I'd be a fan of it and it looks completely reactionary. A bit more time, thought and planning would not have gone amiss but it's not my city.


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    #2627
    nullzero
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    ****


    There's probably a lot of people more deserving of a statue to be fair.

    Put it to the people of Bristol, ask them what they want there.


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    #2628
    suicide_circus
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    Jen Reid must have achieved a lot


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    #2629
    Hangdogroad
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    The crowd who pulled down the statue mostly looked like white male crusties to me.


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    #2630
    titan18
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    Considering that statue went up without approval, I hope it's taken down until something is democratically decided.


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    #2631
    NIMAN
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Jen Reid must have achieved a lot

    Shes a stylist, so the article needs to tell us, so probably lots of nice do's or nails.


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    #2632
    CrankyHaus
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Considering that statue went up without approval, I hope it's taken down until something is democratically decided.


    Honestly it's kind of funny that a person who tore it down so brashly replaced it with one of themselves. Is it about racial justice, freedom, equality? No, it's about ego.



    Think I'll head over to Fairview Park with the lads on Friday night, knock down Russeller's statue and throw a likeness of my own image up on the plinth for the craic.


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    #2633
    mick087
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    Its all totally nonsense now.


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    #2634
    ohnonotgmail
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    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Honestly it's kind of funny that a person who tore it down so brashly replaced it with one of themselves. Is it about racial justice, freedom, equality? No, it's about ego.



    Think I'll head over to Fairview Park with the lads on Friday night, knock down Russeller's statue and throw a likeness of my own image up on the plinth for the craic.

    she didnt erect the statue herself. there is no suggestion she had anything to do with the new statue. the article was very clear on that.


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    #2635
    ancapailldorcha
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    Fair play. I think it's a good idea.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #2636
    El_Duderino 09
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    nullzero wrote: »
    There's probably a lot of people more deserving of a statue to be fair.

    Put it to the people of Bristol, ask them what they want there.

    LOL. The people of Bristol had been asking for the statue to be taken down for decades. In the end all they got was an amendment to the blurb on the state which was so sanitised that the mayor vetoed it and asked them to redraft it. Direct action got the statue taken down and councils reacted by "listening" to their constituents and choosing to take down dozens more statues across the country.

    I find it funny that you're now interested in asking the people of Bristol what they want.

    As this statue shows, significant history is being written right now. At least consider being on the right side of it.


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    #2637
    El_Duderino 09
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    mick087 wrote: »
    Its all totally nonsense now.

    Why is that? Expand on that thought.


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    #2638
    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
    Why is that? Expand on that thought.

    No


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    #2639
    suicide_circus
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    i get that its not really about her as an individual but rather the blm thing as a whole but it seems a bit shallow to me.

    blm folk tore down a statue which was then replaced with a blm statue, what did they actually achieve? the latest flavour of the month or hottest hashtags dont generally get statues, feels like putting up a statue of Jedward in 2011.


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    #2640
    [Deleted User]
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    Can't say I'd be a fan of it and it looks completely reactionary. A bit more time, thought and planning would not have gone amiss but it's not my city.

    It might be a lot of thins: wise, foolish, heroic, illegal... how on earth is it reactionary?


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    #2641
    Tired Gardener
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    Not against the new statue, the old one was in poor taste and had a lot of people asking for it to be removed.

    I still think the best course of action would have been to put either a public toilet or a nice flower bed in place of the statue and plinth.

    That way it isn't political, but rather practical.


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