Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

dj jarvis · 14-07-2020 05:19PM

Onesea wrote: »

https://t.co/b5NpPfJ8No

Interesting but not a surprise. In Ireland we counted all deaths, in all settings, suspected cases even when no lab test was done, and included people with underlying terminal illnesses who died with Covid but not of it.

The government could tell you nobody died of covid and you wouldn't believe them.

god yes we are all sheeple !! glad you informed us of this development.
new account, one trick pony with one agenda, on your bike.
you clearly just dont get that if the actions were not taken when they were taken then it would have been worse, much worse, but yea, goverment is defiantly lying to us, as are ALL CMO's world wide, and the doctors are in cahoots ............................ spare us please

D.Q · 14-07-2020 05:19PM

blade1 wrote: »

Grab what you can quick!!!

Toilet paper and hand sanitiser about to be hit hard

stephenjmcd · 14-07-2020 05:20PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm not a fan of our way of reporting case figures tbh. Makes it incredibly easy to skew the numbers.

I'd love to know how the data filters through from HSE etc through to HPSC because we've only reported 15 postive cases in the last 24hrs but yet get 32 announced.

We'll have to wait to see the county data in a few days

DebDynamite · 14-07-2020 05:20PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I dont know why but there seems to be a feeling around that we would contually stay below 10 per day and some think we could have got to 0. I dont see how either are or were feasible.

People have to get used to seeing case numbers fluctuate. Countries that have reopened like Denmark as you've mentioned are open over 2 months and have a level of cases where there isn't a spike, it just a continually reporting of cases

The difference is Denmark don’t have 250 people flying in everyday from the US or holiday makers getting off the boat from England. If we carry on the way we are, I don’t see how there can’t be a spike

Atlantic Dawn · 14-07-2020 05:21PM

s1ippy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/VirginMediaNews/status/1283084368295198721?s=19

Dylan Lynch in his 20s has permanent lung damage after picking up the virus while bringing his grandmother to hospital.

Wonder was he put on a ventilator, the report was poor in detail.

is_that_so · 14-07-2020 05:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

With the case numbers nearly trebling overnight....are we headed for another lockdown??

Well, I, for one, have the bunker ready. 40 foot from Musgrave outside the door with all I need!

ACitizenErased · 14-07-2020 05:21PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I'd love to know how the data filters through from HSE etc through to HPSC because we've only reported 15 postive cases in the last 24hrs but yet get 32 announced.

We'll have to wait to see the county data in a few days

To the ordinary person it looks like a massive increase today, it's not giving a genuine look at daily figures. If we weren't on boards.ie and into the figures we wouldn't know.

Pete_Cavan · 14-07-2020 05:22PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ireland's COVID19 Data Hub
Positive tests yesterday was 28845, it is now 28860 - I keep track of this figure daily.

Is it anything to do with denotifying cases? We seem to count every case/death on the off-chance it could be Covid-19 and then denotify a chunk of them later. We were announcing suspected cases for a while early on but that is gone, policy seems to be assume Covid until proven otherwise when it really should be the opposite.

blade1 · 14-07-2020 05:23PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Well, I, for one, have the bunker ready. 40 foot from Musgrave outside the door with all I need!

Unless that bunker is inside Musgrave's,say your prayers!

floraldream · 14-07-2020 05:23PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

With the case numbers nearly trebling overnight....are we headed for another lockdown??

My friend is friends with Tom from Myspace and he told her on WhatsApp that Micheál Martin is calling to every house in the nation to see if there's at least one person in the house that can make banana bread and if you can't you've to go into lockdown for another 6 weeks

Onesea · 14-07-2020 05:23PM

dj jarvis wrote: »

god yes we are all sheeple !! glad you informed us of this development.
new account, one trick pony with one agenda, on your bike.
you clearly just dont get that if the actions were not taken when they were taken then it would have been worse, much worse, but yea, goverment is defiantly lying to us, as are ALL CMO's world wide, and the doctors are in cahoots ............................ spare us please

Governments spend x4 months telling people masks are not needed.. Then masks are needed by law on public transport.
Varadkar tweets numbers have been overinflated by 59 percent.
The fact that this virus barely effects the young and healthy should ring through to you.
I'm flying to Ireland in a week, I look forward to heading out on the lash.

is_that_so · 14-07-2020 05:23PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I'd love to know how the data filters through from HSE etc through to HPSC because we've only reported 15 postive cases in the last 24hrs but yet get 32 announced.

We'll have to wait to see the county data in a few days

Enough now - stop channelling George Lee!

Gruffalux · 14-07-2020 05:24PM

s1ippy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/VirginMediaNews/status/1283084368295198721?s=19

Dylan Lynch in his 20s has permanent lung damage after picking up the virus while bringing his grandmother to hospital.

That's the first time I have heard Zara King speak as I haven't watched TV reports on Covid. All I knew from here was apparently she asked silly questions but in all fairness to her she has a beautiful voice for her job.

Onesea · 14-07-2020 05:25PM

Gruffalox wrote: »

That's the first time I have heard Zara King speak as I haven't watched TV reports on Covid. All I knew from here was apparently she asked silly questions but in all fairness to her she has a beautiful voice for her job.

Within the next year she will be working in government.

is_that_so · 14-07-2020 05:25PM

blade1 wrote: »

Unless that bunker is inside Musgrave's,say your prayers!

Made from loo rolls actually. Very secure and practical!

s1ippy · 14-07-2020 05:26PM

Onesea wrote: »

He's one in a million.The preverbial is going to hit the fan when the facts are slowly released reg this virus.

That's an absurdly inaccurate statistic.

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/health/coronavirus-new-research-points-to-lasting-heart-and-lung-damage-1.1048678

1 in 8 are left with severe heart damage

1 in 5 have heart complications requiring permanent medical intervention.

These are the people who previously had no issues with their organs. Even those who have no symptoms of covid are at risk of these internal injuries.

blade1 · 14-07-2020 05:26PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Made from loo rolls actually. Very secure and practical!

Not exactly a brick shîthouse!

ShineOn7 · 14-07-2020 05:27PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Correct, as my neighbour died of it, as did a friend of my daughter.

Not sure what your point is.

Sorry to hear about your daughter's friend Jim as I'm assuming she was quite young

Had she any underlying health issues?

ACitizenErased · 14-07-2020 05:28PM

I just looked back on the testing figures there. Over the last 72 hours we had 48 positive tests and 60 confirmed cases.
Disconnect there, clearly.

stephenjmcd · 14-07-2020 05:28PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

To the ordinary person it looks like a massive increase today, it's not giving a genuine look at daily figures. If we weren't on boards.ie and into the figures we wouldn't know.

Its a good thing then that my degree contained a speciality in data analytics so I like yourself actually look into data not just the headline and I've still no idea what way our set up is.

The moving to a 24hr period of reporting has helped but there seems to be a disconnect between HSE and HPSC. No journalist seems to spot the postive cases in the last 24hrs either because I've not heard it mentioned once.

We've seen small fluctuations before, such as the mater reporting incident but the 24hr postive numbers compared to the 24hr numbers announced haven't added up since the weekend

alentejo · 14-07-2020 05:28PM

I have cancelled my holidays in Italy which I due to take in late August.

Have booked a house in Cork in late August. I have a horrible feeling that my second choice holiday could be scuppered. I haven't left co Dublin since February.

Onesea · 14-07-2020 05:30PM

s1ippy wrote: »

That's an absurdly inaccurate statistic.

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/health/coronavirus-new-research-points-to-lasting-heart-and-lung-damage-1.1048678

1 in 8 are left with severe heart damage

1 in 5 have heart complications requiring permanent medical intervention.

These are the people who previously had no issues with their organs. Even those who have no symptoms of covid are at risk of these internal injuries.

How many cases did Ireland have? In in 5 of these have heart issues?

Not buying it.

is_that_so · 14-07-2020 05:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Mate....new case numbers have trebled since yesterday

Surely any rational person can see such rocketing of numbers is dangerous position for us?

1 death going to 5 deaths is rocketing as well. Look at the base. It's the same general range we've seen for a few weeks 10-30, largely it seems fuelled by known clusters. Now if that 30 goes to 60 or 90 tomorrow we might be a lot more concerned.

stephenjmcd · 14-07-2020 05:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Mate....new case numbers have trebled since yesterday

Surely any rational person can see such rocketing of numbers is dangerous position for us?

Will we have less cases tomorrow,or more increases again??

No they haven't, 15 postive swabs have been logged in the last 24hrs, where the 32 number is coming from is beyond me, at best guess it relates to the postive swabs over the weekend being more than the case numbers that were announced over the weekend.

Over the weekend there were 40 odd postive cases reported but our daily announcements never reached 40 on a single day

Elmer Blooker · 14-07-2020 05:35PM

Onesea wrote: »

How many cases did Ireland have? In in 5 of these have heart issues?

Not buying it.

I got this far ... seriously, what do they take us for?

Even patients who display no symptoms of infection can suffer from serious health effects,

Jim_Hodge · 14-07-2020 05:35PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Sorry to hear about your daughter's friend Jim as I'm assuming she was quite young

Had she any underlying health issues?

A healthcare worker and young with no previous health issues.

Of course some will say no 'known' underlying issues.

Itssoeasy · 14-07-2020 05:35PM

Does anyone here know why the Tuesday number of cases seem to be a bit higher than other days ? There is a bit of a trend with Tuesdays. Is it the weekend kind of delaying reporting and so Tuesday is the day when it kind of catches up or is it something else ? I'm just curious as to who this seems to happen.

14-07-2020 05:36PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Does anyone here know why the Tuesday number of cases seem to be a bit higher than other days ? There is a bit of a trend with Tuesdays. Is it the weekend kind of delaying reporting and so Tuesday is the day when it kind of catches up or is it something else ? I'm just curious as to who this seems to happen.

Tuesday is the weekend catch up

caveat emptor · 14-07-2020 05:36PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No they haven't, 15 postive swabs have been logged in the last 24hrs, where the 32 number is coming from is beyond me, at best guess it relates to the postive swabs over the weekend being more than the case numbers that were announced over the weekend.

Over the weekend there were 40 odd postive cases reported but our daily announcements never reached 40 on a single day

So under reporting at the weekend affect is real? Or is this just a once off Monday. I’d agree it’s weird. We’ll know more tomorrow I guess.

stephenjmcd · 14-07-2020 05:37PM

FYI the Killarney originating cluster is reported now at 14 cases.

Whoever that was that went while waiting for the result should be locked up.

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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