Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Larbre34 · 14-07-2020 04:38PM

Zero deaths, 36 new cases here

This is bullsh1t now. Zero tolerance of tourism f*ckwittery.

And I'm talking just as much about our own younger people renting houses and going on the piss with 30 of their closest friends.

This new Government is flapping, get your sh1t together immediately Míchéal and Donnelly....

timmy_mallet · 14-07-2020 04:38PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Thread is about to explode

(Monday + Tuesday) / 2 ... is the way to take this stuff.

Rob A. Bank · 14-07-2020 04:38PM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Nice straw-man, there horse.

Are you arguing it does matter where someone comes from rather than if they are currently positive for Covid-19?

Yes I am, as are most sensible governments who are producing safer 'green lists' and also 'red lists' of countries where they do not want people coming from.

The positivity of a random covid test depends entirely on when it is taken during the infected period. The sensitivity of testing varies with timing of testing relative to exposure. Estimated sensitivity is 33% 4 days after exposure, 62% on the day of symptom onset, and 80% 3 days after symptom onset.

Using the reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction–based SARS-CoV-2 RNA test is not sensitive enough to exclude an infection, and impossible to do on everyone entering the country.

Quarantine for people from hot-spots is the only way to go.

Atlantic Dawn · 14-07-2020 04:38PM

Gael23 wrote: »

No deaths but 32 cases

Very good going with the level of opening up of pubs and other businesses in this phase.

ACitizenErased · 14-07-2020 04:38PM

There's quite clearly an issue with reporting. There was only 15 positive tests in last 24 hours.

Eod100 · 14-07-2020 04:39PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

After 11 yesterday and additional 40 odd cases added over the wekeend that never added up to the numbers announced im going to go out on the limb here and suggest something just isn't right with reporting. Case data gave 40 odd extra on Saturday I think but we never announced that many.

But this gives them the ammo to push out phase 4 even though it shouldn't. The headlines will be 32 cases but the reporting is off somewhere.

Why would they want or need to push it out if there was no justification?

Gael23 · 14-07-2020 04:39PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Very good going with the level of opening up of pubs and other businesses in this phase.

Agreed. The more we open there was always going to be a rise. However the pubs are not open yet

GooglePlus · 14-07-2020 04:40PM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

(Monday + Tuesday) / 2 ... is the way to take this stuff.

Still a bigger number than last week's Monday+Tuesday/2..

stephenjmcd · 14-07-2020 04:40PM

And its begun on twitter, media going to love this. Gives the government ammo to push out phase 4 but the numbers being reported over the weekend and now just dont add up.

40 odd were added to the data on Sat and we never saw 40 cases announced.
15 postive tests in the last 24hrs and we get 32 ??

mloc123 · 14-07-2020 04:41PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

32 additional cases despite only 15 positive tests in the last 24 hours. I'm not sure what they're up to with their reporting.

where can you see the tests in the past 24hours?

Eod100 · 14-07-2020 04:43PM

Still planning on opening pubs anyways https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1283078954623148032?s=19

timmy_mallet · 14-07-2020 04:43PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Yes I am, as are most sensible governments who are producing safer 'green lists' and also 'red lists' of countries where they do not want people coming from.

The positivity of a random covid test depends entirely on when it is taken during the infected period. The sensitivity of testing varies with timing of testing relative to exposure. Estimated sensitivity is 33% 4 days after exposure, 62% on the day of symptom onset, and 80% 3 days after symptom onset.

Using the reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction–based SARS-CoV-2 RNA test is not sensitive enough to exclude an infection, and impossible to do on everyone entering the country.

Quarantine for people from hot-spots is the only way to go.

Right, so no problem for Germans etc.?

BringBackMick · 14-07-2020 04:43PM

If people are losing their ****t over 32 confirmed cases, they are going to be living under a rock for the next 2 or 3 years.

Unless we live in our rooms for the next 3 years there will be in the region of 30 cases a day.

And this is obviously delayed reporting from the weekend.

The aim was to flatten the curve, we cannot eradicate this disease without shutting up shop for 2 or 3 years. People are nuts.

Santy2015 · 14-07-2020 04:44PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

And its begun on twitter, media going to love this. Gives the government ammo to push out phase 4 but the numbers being reported over the weekend and now just dont add up.

40 odd were added to the data on Sat and we never saw 40 cases announced.
15 postive tests in the last 24hrs and we get 32 ??

Worried about the bank holiday weekend

Ae Fond Kiss · 14-07-2020 04:44PM

Meanwhile, instead of sorting travel etc, our new government is still devoting time to the Barry Cowen issue, which in the greater scheme of lives, our economy, is a nothing story.

bb1234567 · 14-07-2020 04:45PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

If people are losing their ****t over 32 confirmed cases, they are going to be living under a rock for the next 2 or 3 years.

Unless we live in our rooms for the next 3 years there will be in the region of 30 cases a day.

And this is obviously delayed reporting from the weekend.

The aim was to flatten the curve, we cannot eradicate this disease without shutting up shop for 2 or 3 years. People are nuts.

Portugal is reporting several hundred cases and a handful of deaths daily for months now with no signs of expoential growth, clearly there is a relatively sustainable point somewhere between eradication and it getting out of hand. Our cases don't need to be zzero or even close for life to go on.

stephenjmcd · 14-07-2020 04:45PM

Santy2015 wrote: »

Worried about the bank holiday weekend

Can worry away, this isn't going anywhere so can't exactly keep things closed indefinitely. There's going to be cases indefinitely so 20,30 cases shouldn't be keeping business closed.

Guidelines and proper precautions is the best that can be done until a vaccine

Planet X · 14-07-2020 04:46PM

Quick........jacks rolls....:pac::pac::pac:

ACitizenErased · 14-07-2020 04:46PM

Analysis of cases as of midnight Sunday 12th July - 25,638 cases (+11)

Healthcare Workers +9
Clusters -2
Cases associated with clusters +38

Age Range Affected
0-4 No Change
5-14 No Change
15-24 +2
25-34 +3
35-44 No Change
45-54 +2
55-64 +2
65-74 +1
75-84 +1
85+ No Change

Cases by County
Cork +2
Dublin +4
Kerry +3
Kildare +1
Wicklow +1

Always_Running · 14-07-2020 04:47PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

No deaths again today.

32 additional cases.

Great to have another day without a death reported.

Highest daily case number since mid June. 7 day average is 20 cases a day which is still very decent when you consider the amount of testing done.

timmy_mallet · 14-07-2020 04:48PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Portugal is reporting several hundred cases and a handful of deaths daily for months now with no signs of expoential growth, clearly there is a relatively sustainable point somewhere between eradication and it getting out of hand. Our cases don't need to be zzero or even close for life to go on.

A society decides what it will accept in terms of illness and death.

From here, the sentiment seems to be none.

s1ippy · 14-07-2020 04:49PM

32 cases today.

https://twitter.com/walls2/status/1282638132706410496?s=19

Nowhere on the airport form does it explicitly say that you have to quarantine.

Can we put the brakes on this mad experiment yet? How much more money can these Yanks possibly be putting into the economy? It will be removed tenfold by the perpetuation of this illness.

Santy2015 · 14-07-2020 04:50PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Can worry away, this isn't going anywhere so can't exactly keep things closed indefinitely. There's going to be cases indefinitely so 20,30 cases shouldn't be keeping business closed.

Guidelines and proper precautions is the best that can be done until a vaccine

I’m not worried the curtain twitchers of a government are

Storm 10 · 14-07-2020 04:50PM

Where is the Country breakdown of cases today

Rob A. Bank · 14-07-2020 04:51PM

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Right, so no problem for Germans etc.?

No problem with countries with an infection rate similar to ours.

but a BIG problem with yanks and their 3,491,699 cases to date.

MD1990 · 14-07-2020 04:52PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

If people are losing their ****t over 32 confirmed cases, they are going to be living under a rock for the next 2 or 3 years.

Unless we live in our rooms for the next 3 years there will be in the region of 30 cases a day.

And this is obviously delayed reporting from the weekend.

The aim was to flatten the curve, we cannot eradicate this disease without shutting up shop for 2 or 3 years. People are nuts.

I think the big frustation is that many of the cases are travel related.

US citizens even if Irish should be blocked from entering Ireland. It is rampant out there.

That said 30 cases is fine. It is just concerning it may keep rising.

Onesea · 14-07-2020 04:53PM

UK related.
June death figures are lowest over the past 5 years.
Incidents of pneumonia and flu are statistically the same as other years. This would question how effective lockdowns are.

Utopia Parkway · 14-07-2020 04:54PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

If people are losing their ****t over 32 confirmed cases, they are going to be living under a rock for the next 2 or 3 years.

Unless we live in our rooms for the next 3 years there will be in the region of 30 cases a day.

And this is obviously delayed reporting from the weekend.

The aim was to flatten the curve, we cannot eradicate this disease without shutting up shop for 2 or 3 years. People are nuts.

When you look at Denmark who have been widely praised for their handling of the pandemic they are still getting daily new cases of 46, 10, 12, 16, 30, 91, 24 over the last week or so. And they reopened back in mid May.

It would suggest that the Irish numbers are not unusual.

Boggles · 14-07-2020 04:54PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Unless we live in our rooms for the next 3 years there will be in the region of 30 cases a day.

If we only get in "the region of 30 cases a day" for the next 3 years we'll be grand.

That's not even remotely plausible though.

Looks like my chances of having a pint in my local next week are diminishing by the day.

Rob A. Bank · 14-07-2020 04:55PM

The Global Pandemic Figures

1st reported case 8th December in Wohan, China
1 million cases April 2nd… which was 114 days later
2 million cases April 14th… 12 days later
3 million cases April 27th… 13 days later
4 million cases May 9th…. 12 days later
5 million cases May 20th… 11 days later
6 million cases May 29th… 9 days later
7 million cases June 7th… 9 days later
8 million cases June 15th… 8 days later
9 million cases June 21st… 7 days later
10 million cases June 27th… 6 days later
11 million cases July 3rd… 7 days later
12 million cases July 8th… 5 days later
13 million cases July 12th… 4 days later

13,312,391 reported cases so far in a world population of approx 7.718,000,000 people.

That means reported cases make up approx 0.17 % of the world’s population.

Everybody agrees that reported cases are an underestimate of the true figure, but even if you multiply that percentage by 10 times or even 50 times, that still leaves an enormous number of humans vulnerable for this new virus to infect.

The virus is now beginning to ravage highly populated poorer countries without resilient health services, so unfortunately the death rate will continue to rise and rise.

:eek:

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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