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New, unregistered Irish-bought car from 1976 - where do I start?

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    #542
    alfa beta
    Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    kadman wrote: »
    Here is what your type 3 should sound like, my maiden voyage today after a long resto,

    now just small bits a and maybe a respray, or maybe not.





    :)


    This looks (and sounds great) - I love the fastback shape - not really a fan of the squareback shape i must admit but i love this. (VW looked so much closer to Porsche back then, maybe that's what I like about this)

    Well, we managed to move our VW today. It took hours as we only had an inch on each side (between the merc and the 504) and no way of getting to the tyres, or the steering wheel etc, so it was a slow process using some jacks and pulling it a few inches at a time. It's too dark to take photos now, but I'll get some tomorrow. It's in better nick than I thought so I'm quite happy with that. Seemed very solid when pulling it too.

    My mum was delighted as she found some Horse Chestnuts in the glove compartment. She remembered picking them off a tree when herself and Dad broke down on their honeymoon and were waiting for the AA man to arrive - somewhere near Warrington I believe.

    There's so much more to old cars than engines and chassis and body panels, isn't there? There are memories and secrets and character. Is that why we keep them?

    On another note, we also brought this machine out into the daylight for the first time in a few years. Started like a dream on a newly charged battery, and drove perfectly. But then got stuck in third for some reason and now seems impossible to get back into neutral. Maybe someone here is familiar with old Ford 3000's and knows something I don't!


    IMG-5519.jpg


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    #543
    Gaspode
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    alfa beta wrote: »

    My mum was delighted as she found some Horse Chestnuts in the glove compartment. She remembered picking them off a tree when herself and Dad broke down on their honeymoon and were waiting for the AA man to arrive - somewhere near Warrington I believe.

    There's so much more to old cars than engines and chassis and body panels, isn't there?

    What a lovely thing, this thread is the thread that just keeps giving!


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    #544
    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    The squareback must hold a special place in your mums heart.
    Maybe thats the one to keep. Get it running and drive it.


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    #545
    stock>
    Registered Users Posts: 755 ✭✭✭stock>


    alfa beta wrote: »
    On another note, we also brought this machine out into the daylight for the first time in a few years. Started like a dream on a newly charged battery, and drove perfectly. But then got stuck in third for some reason and now seems impossible to get back into neutral. Maybe someone here is familiar with old Ford 3000's and knows something I don't!


    IMG-5519.jpg
    Lift the gear levers and align the two selectors rods, you will see the two squares and align them,then replace the gear levers with a bit of sealant. The gear levers wear as do the selectors and one slips out of the other so be gentle when changing gear..............................................................


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    #546
    eddhorse
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    My mum was delighted as she found some Horse Chestnuts in the glove compartment. She remembered picking them off a tree when herself and Dad broke down on their honeymoon and were waiting for the AA man to arrive - somewhere near Warrington I believe.

    Ive changed my mind, keep the squareback !!!


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    #547
    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Mum might like to see the squareback everyday for the happy memories, then again she might not want to be reminded
    of all the happy memories by seeing the car everyday.
    Its a funny thing like that.

    I remember similar circumstances in my own family. And it was too painful for some family members to be reminded
    by all the items of the deceased member, so they were sold on. Its a very individual thing.

    There is probably a long list of people who would love that car, me included.

    But I still think you should hang on to it. Or at least let it go to someone who would put it back on the road.
    Its probably worth more to break it for parts, which is a sad thing,than sell it as it is.
    And that would be sacrilegious in my view to such a car.

    It needs to be on the road and driving.


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    #548
    spaceHopper
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    Whats under the tarm to the left of the merc?


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    #549
    WildWater
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    spaceHopper wrote: »
    Whats under the tarm to the left of the merc?

    At this rate, I'll be pretty disappointed if it's not a space shuttle. :D


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    #550
    stock>
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    spaceHopper wrote: »
    Whats under the tarm to the left of the merc?


    DB5..............................................................;);)


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    #551
    forgottenhills
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    stock> wrote: »
    DB5..............................................................;);)

    Or perhaps a DeLorean, driven once and parked up.


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    #552
    alfa beta
    Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    spaceHopper wrote: »
    Whats under the tarm to the left of the merc?


    Morris Eight (from 1940s)


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    #553
    alfa beta
    Registered Users Posts: 763 ✭✭✭alfa beta


    Here are some photos of the VW Variant / Squareback now that it's emerged from its cocoon and can actually be seen from more angles than the rear.


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    #554
    kadman
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    Definitely the squareback would be my favourite:)


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    #555
    TheW1zard
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    Quick question whats the difference between red and black plates?


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    #556
    hullaballoo
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    Red plates go faster.


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    #557
    Type 17
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    Silver on black was the standard from 1904-1974.
    When Irl joined the EEC in 1974, black on red (rear) and black on white (front) became the new standard. UK joined at the same time, but chose yellow for the rear plates.


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    #558
    zilog_jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Besides the sills, the VW doesn't look too bad? Hard to tell how much is just surface rust...


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    #559
    Igotadose
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    Digression. I see a lot of love for that VW squareback. FD: never saw one in my life living in the US. I've ridden in a lot of different VW's, Dashers Karmann-Ghias, Scirocco, Buses, Rabbits, Golfs, Beetles of many eras, Passatsand I even owned an Audi for 10 years, which was the best car I've ever owned. Why so much love for what looks like a pokey box that doesn't seem like it'll handle or ride well nor be particularly quick?


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    #560
    Silent Running
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    Igotadose wrote: »
    Digression. I see a lot of love for that VW squareback. FD: never saw one in my life living in the US. I've ridden in a lot of different VW's, Dashers Karmann-Ghias, Scirocco, Buses, Rabbits, Golfs, Beetles of many eras, Passatsand I even owned an Audi for 10 years, which was the best car I've ever owned. Why so much love for what looks like a pokey box that doesn't seem like it'll handle or ride well nor be particularly quick?

    It's all about nostalgia. 0-100 times rarely come into the classic car owner's mind.


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    #561
    zilog_jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Also, as your post confirms: They're rare


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    #562
    James Bond Junior
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    Silent Running wrote: »
    It's all about nostalgia. 0-100 times rarely come into the classic car owner's mind.

    100%. It's the car you wanted as a kid or one you had as young lad.


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    #563
    galwaytt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    ...and hindsight being the wonderful thing that it is, there was a time when the squareback, fastback and - Variant - were worth, literally nothing.

    I remember a dark red 412LE - the fuel injected Type 4 - being literally left to rot on the side of the road, here: https://goo.gl/maps/u6MneL9b9ghuwq7j9

    Oooh to have that now..............

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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    #564
    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Well....I'd take it in a heartbeat if the rust wasn't excessive, above any of the rest of them, but thats just me:)


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    #565
    unkel
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    Not just you, both the variant and the fastback have always been my favourite VWs, good few of them around when I was growing up :)


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    #566
    swarlb
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    I used to work with a man in the 70's who had a variant. We'd collect stock from a warehouse every week, and deliver it to various outlets. I was always amazed at the amount of stuff you could cram in the back.
    We lost touch, and years later I bumped into a fella who knew him in the trade back then.
    Have to say... I got a bit of a fright when I was told that the 'stock' we were collecting, was.... well, not being 'collected' as such, more like 'acquired without payment'....
    Seemingly he'd been caught one morning, arrested, and spent some time behind bars.....

    The only thing I could think of saying was...
    'Wonder what ever happened the VW ?'


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    #567
    wildwillow
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    swarlb wrote: »
    I used to work with a man in the 70's who had a variant. We'd collect stock from a warehouse every week, and deliver it to various outlets. I was always amazed at the amount of stuff you could cram in the back.
    We lost touch, and years later I bumped into a fella who knew him in the trade back then.
    Have to say... I got a bit of a fright when I was told that the 'stock' we were collecting, was.... well, not being 'collected' as such, more like 'acquired without payment'....
    Seemingly he'd been caught one morning, arrested, and spent some time behind bars.....

    The only thing I could think of saying was...
    'Wonder what ever happened the VW ?'

    This thread just keeps giving.
    There is a mini series or a book here with the main story and all the side avenues.


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    #568
    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    I remember back in the day when we used to go across the border with the fastback.
    On the way back when we hit the checkpoint the guard asked to see into the boot at the customs
    checkpoint.

    He walked around the back where 99% of all boots on cars were at the time.
    Checked it out, saw the normal every day shop, shuffled around, and waved us through.

    Good job he never knew there was a bigger front boot on these, than there was in the rear.

    It was like duty free at the airport


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    #569
    Silent Running
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    kadman wrote: »
    I remember back in the day when we used to go across the border with the fastback.
    On the way back when we hit the checkpoint the guard asked to see into the boot at the customs
    checkpoint.

    He walked around the back where 99% of all boots on cars were at the time.
    Checked it out, saw the normal every day shop, shuffled around, and waved us through.

    Good job he never knew there was a bigger front boot on these, than there was in the rear.

    It was like duty free at the airport

    How did you stop the Kerrygold melting? :p


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    #570
    kadman
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Kerrygold was in the front, along with all the other goodies,

    well away from the heat:D:D


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    #571
    zilog_jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    I'm sure everyone's forgotten about the original car in this thread by now, but here's some footage of a 504 diesel in action on the fine roads of '80s West Clare: https://www.rte.ie/archives/collections/news/21267864-potholes-in-west-clare/


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