Respawn Jedi Fallen Order

Exclamation Marc · 03-01-2020 9:33pm

Got my platinum last night and in the end, I thoroughly loved this game. Thankfully I had the majority of work done by endgame and only needed an hour of tidying up for the platinum.

The story, combat, challenge, exploration etc. were excellent. My only minor complaints were the desyncing of sound and infrequent graphical hiccups.

Hope there's more games like this on the way.

johnny_ultimate · 04-01-2020 9:54pm

Finished it today. My general impression still stands: an OK cocktail of better games. But, without going into spoilers, can I just say how weird it is that the story only really gets going in like the last two or three hours? I mean, it’s cool that some of the best stuff is at the end - usually games just run out of steam and bore well before the credits. But this almost has the opposite problem - couldn’t have cared less why I was going to such-and-such a planet to pick up a mysterious doo-dad for most of the game, but then suddenly hit with surprisingly interesting character moments, story beats, and reflections on the nature of the Jedi / Force?

It’s still not a great story by any means, but it’s a pretty solid one - just with the strangest pacing. There was actually some sequences I thought would have worked better earlier in the game

like repairing your lightsaber.

A weird experience to only become properly invested in a game in the last quarter, but hey at least it goes out well.

04-01-2020 11:26pm

Fair assessment, one character in particular could have done with being introduced a hell of a lot sooner.

SomeSayKos · 07-01-2020 12:23pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Finished it today. My general impression still stands: an OK cocktail of better games. But, without going into spoilers, can I just say how weird it is that the story only really gets going in like the last two or three hours? I mean, it’s cool that some of the best stuff is at the end - usually games just run out of steam and bore well before the credits. But this almost has the opposite problem - couldn’t have cared less why I was going to such-and-such a planet to pick up a mysterious doo-dad for most of the game, but then suddenly hit with surprisingly interesting character moments, story beats, and reflections on the nature of the Jedi / Force?

It’s still not a great story by any means, but it’s a pretty solid one - just with the strangest pacing. There was actually some sequences I thought would have worked better earlier in the game
like repairing your lightsaber.
A weird experience to only become properly invested in a game in the last quarter, but hey at least it goes out well.

I also thought

that the double ended lightsaber was introduced too late in the game as there wasn't really any new enemy types introduced that required its use and by that stage of the game I already had a good rhythm using the standard lightsaber so had no cause to use it really. At least it looks cool

Penn · 07-01-2020 12:29pm

SomeSayKos wrote: »

I also thought
that the double ended lightsaber was introduced too late in the game as there wasn't really any new enemy types introduced that required its use and by that stage of the game I already had a good rhythm using the standard lightsaber so had no cause to use it really. At least it looks cool

I'd actually read some tips on how to get it fairly early in the game by going to Dathomir when it's first available and pretty much running past enemies (as they're difficult to deal with that early in the game). You can get it from a workbench near where you can't jump past to get to the temple.

Felt to me like single lightsaber worked better one-on-one or with one or two tough enemies with stronger blocking, but double lightsaber worked better where you're mobbed by easier to kill enemies like animals/nightsisters.

Also, I think johnny was talking about the part where you go to the Jedi Temple to repair your lightsaber, and how it was fairly late in the story and might have served the story better happening earlier, rather than getting the double-lightsaber. Which I'd agree with as the story was languishing a bit up until then.

SomeSayKos · 07-01-2020 1:15pm

Penn wrote: »

I'd actually read some tips on how to get it fairly early in the game by going to Dathomir when it's first available and pretty much running past enemies (as they're difficult to deal with that early in the game). You can get it from a workbench near where you can't jump past to get to the temple.

Felt to me like single lightsaber worked better one-on-one or with one or two tough enemies with stronger blocking, but double lightsaber worked better where you're mobbed by easier to kill enemies like animals/nightsisters.
Also, I think johnny was talking about the part where you go to the Jedi Temple to repair your lightsaber, and how it was fairly late in the story and might have served the story better happening earlier, rather than getting the double-lightsaber. Which I'd agree with as the story was languishing a bit up until then.

Ah ok! I didn't go to Dathomir until the story brought me there and didn't get that upgrade until the snowy jedi temple so I take back what I said!

Penn · 07-01-2020 1:31pm

SomeSayKos wrote: »

Ah ok! I didn't go to Dathomir until the story brought me there and didn't get that upgrade until the snowy jedi temple so I take back what I said!

I think there's a few different places you can get it, just I'd read the Dathomir one was the earliest place (though I didn't go straight for it, did the first part of Zeffo first). I even missed out on some other workbench upgrades until after I'd already finished the story.

johnny_ultimate · 07-01-2020 2:30pm

Yeah I got it pretty early without even knowing it existed: popped back to Bogano after my first trip to Zeffo IIRC and just stumbled across it during some exploration. One of the few times digging around led to a worthwhile reward! Used it a lot during the game as a result.

The

splittable saber

is a pretty neat late game weapon but as with a lot of things in the game I just felt they never quite figured out how to properly balance force energy - felt artificially confined IMO.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 07-01-2020 3:11pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Yeah I got it pretty early without even knowing it existed: popped back to Bogano after my first trip to Zeffo IIRC and just stumbled across it during some exploration. One of the few times digging around led to a worthwhile reward! Used it a lot during the game as a result.

The
splittable saber
is a pretty neat late game weapon but as with a lot of things in the game I just felt they never quite figured out how to properly balance force energy - felt artificially confined IMO.

this is probably my biggest complaint (outside of the slidey sections) - you never really felt powerful, unlike in a souls game, where early enemies become fodder, but can still wreck you if you're careless. In this, even late game stun baton troopers can gang up on you and wreck your day. - the poise element is broken too imo - you can keep wailing away on an enemy to break their guard, only for them to completely recover almost instantly.

jones · 14-01-2020 2:49pm

Finished this over the weekend and only three trophies off the platinum - 3 enemies with one lightsaber throw, big bang (20 enemies with explosives) and slice the oggdo's tongue. Going to try do them later to box it all off although no idea where or how - apart from oggdo.

Overall thoughts are that i really enjoyed the game - easily a 8/10 for me. On the PS4 pro the graphics were class as was the music and general level design, story really got going near the end which does make me wonder why certain elements weren't introduced earlier.

I am not sure how many hours i put into the game but the lack of fast travel hurt it particularly when revisiting a planet, i spent a lot of time roaming around trying to get the last few chests etc. A lot of the planets are maze like and a lot of one way roads which was a pain at times.

I'd love some DLC with it although i was quite over powered by the end fight (maybe i should have turned the difficulty up). Respawn really do single player games well and call me old fashioned but they are still my favourite type of game.

Evade · 14-01-2020 2:55pm

jones wrote: »

Finished this over the weekend and only three trophies off the platinum - 3 enemies with one lightsaber throw, big bang (20 enemies with explosives) and slice the oggdo's tongue. Going to try do them later to box it all off although no idea where or how - apart from oggdo.

There's a place on Kashyyk with 3 missile troopers on a ledge. There's a rest spot down a zipline from them it's a good place to farm the explosives trophy. You can get the lightsaber throw there too if you sneak up on them.

jones · 14-01-2020 2:59pm

Evade wrote: »

There's a place on Kashyyk with 3 missile troopers on a ledge. There's a rest spot down a zipline from them it's a good place to farm the explosives trophy. You can get the lightsaber throw there too if you sneak up on them.

I know the exact place you are talking about very good idea!!!

Penn · 14-01-2020 3:03pm

Evade wrote: »

There's a place on Kashyyk with 3 missile troopers on a ledge. There's a rest spot down a zipline from them it's a good place to farm the explosives trophy. You can get the lightsaber throw there too if you sneak up on them.

Yeah it's a decent spot for the explosives alright. Takes a bit of getting used to and I was very late in the game before I even tried it, never mind doing it with any great consistency, but it's great once you start flinging their missiles back at them.

Can't even remember getting the lightsaber throw one.

The Oggdo tongue one tip:

I thought you had to slow time when his tongue is out and then cut it off, leading to a lot of fails. You actually need to Force Pull him, his tongue will come out, then you slice it.

jones · 14-01-2020 4:05pm

Penn wrote: »

Yeah it's a decent spot for the explosives alright. Takes a bit of getting used to and I was very late in the game before I even tried it, never mind doing it with any great consistency, but it's great once you start flinging their missiles back at them.

Can't even remember getting the lightsaber throw one.

The Oggdo tongue one tip:
I thought you had to slow time when his tongue is out and then cut it off, leading to a lot of fails. You actually need to Force Pull him, his tongue will come out, then you slice it.

Wow I did not know that thanks

Exclamation Marc · 05-04-2020 9:41am

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Just bought this from the PS store. Usually go disk but I'm minimising disk purchases now due to the current...situation.
Looking forward to a simple, linear campaign as I've been playing games with a lot of bloat of late which has left me exhausted.

Loved this game so much, you're in for a treat. One of the few games I platinumed.

05-04-2020 10:19pm

I dropped the difficulty down and didn't regret it, if anything I enjoyed the game more.

Theres the basis of an even better game next time out there. I think I mentioned before I liked the characters and plot more than the films in this.

EoinMcLovin · 04-05-2020 5:10pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSwYMwm8fIU

Minime2.5 · 18-05-2020 12:40pm

I'm not sure if it's a glitch or not but there doesn't seem to be a path toward. I'm in the Haxion Fight Pit . I've killed the first wave of enemies. Fire fly things a big massive monster and a big spider . They are all dead but there nothing else coming to fight me not is there an open path. Am I at fault here or is this a glitch ?

Markitron · 18-05-2020 2:34pm

Minime2.5 wrote: »

I'm not sure if it's a glitch or not but there doesn't seem to be a path toward. I'm in the Haxion Fight Pit . I've killed the first wave of enemies. Fire fly things a big massive monster and a big spider . They are all dead but there nothing else coming to fight me not is there an open path. Am I at fault here or is this a glitch ?

Sounds like a glitch, game has a bit of a rep for them. Shut it down and reload it, you might not even have to do the fighting again as there is a checkpoint during that fight.

dohboy · 11-07-2020 1:25am

Just deleted this in a fit of pique after I couldn't beat the last (?) boss. Was enjoying it up until then but I think games like this just do my brains cos I'm plodding along, fully aware that eventually I'm gonna have to fight some big lad and it's gonna take me hours and I don't even feel much satisfaction when I've defeated them! Just feel 'well I wasted ages having to learn how to beat that ****'

Sephiroth_dude · 11-07-2020 10:06am

I got the plat a few weeks ago, loved the game personally,hope there's another one but its in dire need of a fast travel option as trying to navigate that map is a chore.

Markitron · 13-07-2020 4:13pm

dohboy wrote: »

Just deleted this in a fit of pique after I couldn't beat the last (?) boss. Was enjoying it up until then but I think games like this just do my brains cos I'm plodding along, fully aware that eventually I'm gonna have to fight some big lad and it's gonna take me hours and I don't even feel much satisfaction when I've defeated them! Just feel 'well I wasted ages having to learn how to beat that ****'

The last boss is really easy to cheese with

the dual lightsaber attack on L1+triangle. Just freeze her and close in and hit her with it, every time you heal you replenish your force, rinse repeat.

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

I got the plat a few weeks ago, loved the game personally,hope there's another one but its in dire need of a fast travel option as trying to navigate that map is a chore.

I don't feel like it needed one when you are first exploring the world but they at least should have added the option for the post-game

Penn · 13-07-2020 4:37pm

Markitron wrote: »

The last boss is really easy to cheese with
the dual lightsaber attack on L1+triangle. Just freeze her and close in and hit her with it, every time you heal you replenish your force, rinse repeat.

I don't feel like it needed one when you are first exploring the world but they at least should have added the option for the post-game

Yeah it was definitely the post-game where the lack of it really stood out. Travelling back to the depths of Dathomir in particular for a few collectibles was a right pain, and isn't helped by the pretty awful map where paths can overlap or overlay, but it's not clear which path is the actual entry point.

Sephiroth_dude · 13-07-2020 4:38pm

Don't get me started on post game collectibles, was following a video but omg what a chore.

Exclamation Marc · 13-07-2020 5:34pm

Penn wrote: »

Yeah it was definitely the post-game where the lack of it really stood out. Travelling back to the depths of Dathomir in particular for a few collectibles was a right pain, and isn't helped by the pretty awful map where paths can overlap or overlay, but it's not clear which path is the actual entry point.

I had most of the collectibles by the time I finished the game but christ trying to interpret those maps when revisiting was like advanced physics sometimes.

Markitron · 14-07-2020 8:21am

The Phantom Pain wrote: »

Call me weird - trying to figure out the map was one of my favourite parts. Kind of reminded me of some of the best parts in Arkham games for some reason. Personally had no issue with the lack of fast travel as traversal didn't feel as repetitive as say something like Vampyr.

I honestly didn't mind it either, trying to work out the fastest route reminded me of Metroid Prime. It was a bit of a pain in the post game though cos, unlike Metroid Prime, the areas are not connected to each other and each map has one entrance/exit.

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