Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

stephenjmcd · 10-07-2020 04:59PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

But not worried about pubs. ..hmmm.

Once they're following guidelines I wouldn't see why they would be. Safer than a house party really

ACitizenErased · 10-07-2020 05:01PM

What I'm guessing has to have happened for that big 9-person cluster is a coming-home party for whoever is the positive case. The brain cells are clearly lacking there like surely that's the last thing you should do.

ACitizenErased · 10-07-2020 05:02PM

Masks are compulsory on public transport from Monday. Regulations being signed this evening.

ZX7R · 10-07-2020 05:02PM

Law been passed today, wearing of masks will be a legal requirement on public transportation from Monday

s1ippy · 10-07-2020 05:05PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Masks are compulsory on public transport from Monday. Regulations being signed this evening.

They have been for two weeks now. Any word on what the penalty for non-compliance will be, or how it will be enforced?

Having seen all bus drivers and scarcely any passengers wearing masks coming towards the end of June, yesterday driving around Cork I saw five bus drivers with none and two with them. About half the passengers had them on, several in buses with 20+ passengers.

ACitizenErased · 10-07-2020 05:07PM

s1ippy wrote: »

They have been for two weeks now. Any word on what the penalty for non-compliance will be, or how it will be enforced?

Having seen all bus drivers and scarcely any passengers wearing masks coming towards the end of June, yesterday driving around Cork I saw five bus drivers with none and two with them. About half the passengers had them on, several in buses with 20+ passengers.

They were recommended. Compulsory means it's in law and has to be enforced.

zinfandel · 10-07-2020 05:08PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Florida reported more than 11,000 cases and 93 deaths today, a new record from ~8,000, but not a single county has reported their numbers yet. These 11,000 are marked "Unassigned" and are likely historical, but still nuts to consider that they're going ahead with opening Disney in Orlando tomorrow.

they always report them that way on worldometer as a block figure also apparently tests are taking a week to come back, so these are possibly a week old and without any controls likely to be 15k plus a day next week.

Assetbacked · 10-07-2020 05:08PM

s1ippy wrote: »

They have been for two weeks now. Any word on what the penalty for non-compliance will be, or how it will be enforced?

Having seen all bus drivers and scarcely any passengers wearing masks coming towards the end of June, yesterday driving around Cork I saw five bus drivers with none and two with them. About half the passengers had them on, several in buses with 20+ passengers.

And, as well, will they be provided by the public transport operators and is there a timeline on how long this law is to be in effect?

EDIT: And to add, in terms of enforcement, what if someone just pulled their tshirt or top up over their mouth as they were getting on and said this was their face covering - what is a "mask" for the purpose of this law. I wonder what the text of this legislation actually says.

igCorcaigh · 10-07-2020 05:08PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They were recommended. Compulsory means it's in law and has to be enforced.

For the bus drivers too?

Plumbthedepths · 10-07-2020 05:10PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Once they're following guidelines I wouldn't see why they would be. Safer than a house party really

Tbh once alcohol is involved I don't think much thought is given to restrictions. On the whole I think its just pandering to a cohort.

ACitizenErased · 10-07-2020 05:10PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

For the bus drivers too?

They'll have to now if it's in law

stephenjmcd · 10-07-2020 05:11PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They were recommended. Compulsory means it's in law and has to be enforced.

Enforcement will be the issue now. Unions saying their members won't do it as its not in the job description.

stephenjmcd · 10-07-2020 05:11PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They'll have to now if it's in law

No they won't, drivers are in a separate area so don't have to.

JP Liz V1 · 10-07-2020 05:12PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Masks are compulsory on public transport from Monday. Regulations being signed this evening.

I thought this was compulsory a few weeks back

stephenjmcd · 10-07-2020 05:12PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Tbh once alcohol is involved I don't think much thought is given to restrictions. On the whole I think its just pandering to a cohort.

yeah in terms of safer I mean like your at your table in a pub no walking around and the details are there for contact tracing. Same can't be said for house parties

ShineOn7 · 10-07-2020 05:16PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Enforcement will be the issue now. Unions saying their members won't do it as its not in the job description.

What, what?

Bus drivers are getting unions involved over masks? And, at last count, 5 bus drivers have died in London alone?

Between this and the airports this country is entering the Comedy level of Covid

We started weak, then adjusted pretty well, and now it's going to shíte again

Assetbacked · 10-07-2020 05:17PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

What, what?

Bus drivers are getting unions involved over masks? And, at last count, 5 bus drivers have died in London alone?

Between this and the airports this country is entering the Comedy level of Covid :pac:

We started weak, then adjusted pretty well, and now it's going to shíte again

Again? Remind me when it went "****e" in the first place?

Benimar · 10-07-2020 05:18PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

yeah in terms of safer I mean like your at your table in a pub no walking around and the details are there for contact tracing. Same can't be said for house parties

Whilst I don’t necessarily disagree with you, that’s dependent on pubs following guidance. Based on the two threads on here, it’s clear that some are not.

Some of the 26 who landed in the sh1te last weekend did so because of lack of Social Distancing measures or not having contact tracing info.

stephenjmcd · 10-07-2020 05:20PM

Benimar wrote: »

Whilst I don’t necessarily disagree with you, that’s dependent on pubs following guidance. Based on the two threads on here, it’s clear that some are not.

Some of the 26 who landed in the sh1te last weekend did so because of lack of Social Distancing measures or not having contact tracing info.

Yeah I agree, 26 out of a couple thousand. Safe to say they won't be at it again because having worked in a pub I know if you piss off the gardai they'll be there most days now. Any of those 26 would have had visits daily since last weekend without a doubt.
Not to mention probably surprise HSE and HSA inspections, basically they'll have been all over them

ShineOn7 · 10-07-2020 05:22PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

Again? Remind me when it went "****e" in the first place?

We reacted slowly, not as slow as the UK, but still should've been faster
We gave up all trump cards we held as an island
We let hundreds die in nursing homes when they should've been identified as an easy target for Covid

For starters

stephenjmcd · 10-07-2020 05:22PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

What, what?

Bus drivers are getting unions involved over masks? And, at last count, 5 bus drivers have died in London alone?

Between this and the airports this country is entering the Comedy level of Covid :pac:

We started weak, then adjusted pretty well, and now it's going to shíte again

unions said before in the last week or two that drivers wouldn't be the ones enforcing the regulations.

Not sure what the reference that its gone to ****e again is about

igCorcaigh · 10-07-2020 05:23PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No they won't, drivers are in a separate area so don't have to.

Doesn't the screen around the driver have holes?

ACitizenErased · 10-07-2020 05:24PM

I don't see any reason why bus drivers shouldn't enforce masks tbh. It's their job to uphold health and safety on the bus. If the bus isn't safe then nobody should be on it.

stephenjmcd · 10-07-2020 05:25PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Doesn't the screen around the driver have holes?

On any DB I've been on they've been covered in. Staff were exempt when it was mentioned 2 weeks ago

ShineOn7 · 10-07-2020 05:28PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

unions said before in the last week or two that drivers wouldn't be the ones enforcing the regulations.

Unions over complicating things as always and justifying their existence and pay cheques

It's a simple "can you stick your mask on bud" to alighting customers. That's all they're been asked to do

I've been on buses that have stopped and won't move any further till the person upstairs puts out their cigarette. I've seen drivers go upstairs to people who still haven't put it out

But they won't help out with masks?

Union logic = zero fcuking logic

I'm away out for what looks like a little sun outside. I've only been online 5 mins catching up on today's Irish Covid updates and I already want to scream :pac:

gazzer · 10-07-2020 05:30PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I don't see any reason why bus drivers shouldn't enforce masks tbh. It's their job to uphold health and safety on the bus. If the bus isn't safe then nobody should be on it.

Exactly. They enforce the law (well mostly) if somebody is smoking on the bus so why not the same with masks? If it is now mandatory to wear a mask and somebody refuses then the driver just stops the bus and doesnt move until the person gets off. Same if somebody tries to get on the bus without a mask. Dont let them on.

KrustyUCC · 10-07-2020 05:31PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Unions over complicating things as always and justifying their existence and pay cheques

It's a simple "can you stick your mask on bud" to alighting customers. That's all they're been asked to do

I've been on buses that have stopped and won't move any further till the person upstairs puts out their cigarette. I've seen drivers go upstairs to people who still haven't put it out

But they won't help out with masks?

Union logic = zero fcuking logic

Yet the same unions complaining about the safety of drivers

Mad

Assetbacked · 10-07-2020 05:35PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

We reacted slowly, not as slow as the UK, but still should've been faster

We gave up all trump cards we held as an island

We let hundreds die in nursing homes when they should've been identified as an easy target for Covid

For starters

Those that died in nursing homes was not because the public weren't wearing masks or social distancing. It was due to an incompetent NPHET who the government are still listening to.

When we locked down, the virus got suppressed in the community quite rapidly and the health service did not get overrun. That is arguably not a ****e situation.

owlbethere · 10-07-2020 05:36PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Florida reported more than 11,000 cases and 93 deaths today, a new record from ~8,000, but not a single county has reported their numbers yet. These 11,000 are marked "Unassigned" and are likely historical, but still nuts to consider that they're going ahead with opening Disney in Orlando tomorrow.

Sure we might aw well invite them all in. It might be great craic to kill off the rest of them that survived in nursing homes.

We were told to help the nursing homes the virus should be as low as possible in the community. I don't understand why we still have travel into the country without quarantine.

stephenjmcd · 10-07-2020 05:39PM

Over 1k cases registered at meat plants and no unannounced inspections. Seems to be look to blame everyone but don't look at government departments to start with.

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Comments