Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Jim_Hodge · 09-07-2020 09:29PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Fascinating, how you got all that out of my post!

Clear enough really

They are also at the stage where they see less time ahead than is behind them so they can often care less about things.

is_that_so · 09-07-2020 09:31PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Clear enough really

That just means being over 50 you have less time ahead than behind, pretty obvious really.

ACitizenErased · 09-07-2020 09:33PM

Found this tweet about the stuff I said earlier about the GAA clubs in Cork.
https://twitter.com/KieranMcC_SS/status/1281281085335384071?s=20

Renjit · 09-07-2020 09:33PM

LiquidZeb wrote: »

It's more about t cells than antibodies. It's actually a good thing that antibodies fade as that means their job is done. The analogy I've seen is antibodies are the firemen putting the fire out and tcells are the fire department on call if they're needed.

Antibodies are not exactly firemen. They could also act as markers for phagocytes.

tom1ie · 09-07-2020 09:37PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Ryan has already said it isn't possible.

Really? As in just the uk? I’d love to know how it isn’t possible to stop USA tourists?what has Covent got to say about it as he is DFA?

MickeyLeari · 09-07-2020 09:40PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Why is that needed?

Melbourne did. Look at Leicester, Brazil, Texas.

MickeyLeari · 09-07-2020 09:41PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Found this tweet about the stuff I said earlier about the GAA clubs in Cork.
https://twitter.com/KieranMcC_SS/status/1281281085335384071?s=20

Was the person travelling?

Jim_Hodge · 09-07-2020 09:42PM

TimeLadsPlease wrote: »

Jim seems to be the only person, besides captain Mainwaring, who has lived on these covid threads since the very beginning.

Not sure if that deserves our pity or respect.

I haven't the foggiest idea what that's supposed to mean. Care to elaborate, or do you just pop in to comment on others rather than discuss anything?

Atlantic Dawn · 09-07-2020 09:45PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why with all these figures about internal air transmission are we seeing no big outbreaks amongst staff working within supermarkets? You would assume the virus would spread like wildfire if that was the case as they are exposed daily to customers.

On Prime Time just now a manager from Tesco said they had 34 positive cases out of 13,000 staff.

Gael23 · 09-07-2020 09:49PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Oxford have already said that their vaccine will produce a far stronger immune response than someone who contracts the virus normally would but it will still wear off over time.

Would that not just mean you need a booster every year or so? Along the lines of the flu injection

09-07-2020 09:49PM

hmmm wrote: »

We're catching health care workers because we're testing them regularly. It goes to show how much undetected spread there may be. Opportunities for superspreading aren't going to be allowed anytime soon, but anyone going to a large event indoors (e.g. House party) is an idiot in my opinion.

You might not like it but people are going to start living their lives again, and for some that's socialising and house parties. It's been months, the guidelines are allowing for up to 50 people gatherings, people will have house parties. Do you expect people in their twenties to just continue working full time during the week without their social outlets on the weekend, indefinitely? For many that's just not life. Call it selfish if you want.

tom1ie · 09-07-2020 09:50PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

On Prime Time just now a manager from Tesco said they had 34 positive cases out of 13,000 staff.

Yeah probably because they’ve kept numbers in the shops down.
If you think about a hospital where the icu’s and wards were busy that probably created a lot of viral load in the air which led to a high rate of health care workers getting it.
If numbers going into supermarkets at the same time was increased it would lead to a higher viral load leading to more infections around workers.
That’s why it’s important pubs and everywhere else limit numbers indoors.

tom1ie · 09-07-2020 09:54PM

AdamD wrote: »

You might not like it but people are going to start living their lives again, and for some that's socialising and house parties. It's been months, the guidelines are allowing for up to 50 people gatherings, people will have house parties. Do you expect people in their twenties to just continue working full time during the week without their social outlets on the weekend, indefinitely? For many that's just not life. Call it selfish if you want.

You do know that’s 50 people socially distanced yeah?

hotmail.com · 09-07-2020 09:55PM

Growing nervousness now about a second lockdown around Ireland.

tom1ie · 09-07-2020 09:58PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Growing nervousness now about a second lockdown around Ireland.

How are you gauging this if I may be so bold to ask?
I would say there’s a growing indifference.

Azatadine · 09-07-2020 09:58PM

You can feel that the fears of a second wave are rising alright. Certainly the media are propagating that.

Atlantic Dawn · 09-07-2020 09:59PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Growing nervousness now about a second lockdown around Ireland.

I'd say any new lockdown will be regionalised, not sure how that would work in say Dublin where you have the airport and people who arrive will want to go elsewhere in the country.

hotmail.com · 09-07-2020 09:59PM

tom1ie wrote: »

How are you gauging this if I may be so bold to ask?
I would say there’s a growing indifference.

A mixture of both perhaps I'm detecting. It was the same in early March. People were nervous but still acting as if nothing was happening.

ACitizenErased · 09-07-2020 10:00PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Growing nervousness now about a second lockdown around Ireland.

A lockdown comes into place when the hospitals become overwhelmed. The hospitals are empty. Not gonna happen.

Lyle · 09-07-2020 10:01PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Growing nervousness now about a second lockdown around Ireland.

I think there would have to be an absolutely catastrophic event for a full lockdown all around Ireland to happen again. We may get to a point where we have local, potentially county-wide lockdowns for any locality or county that has particular issues in keeping numbers low over time but I wouldn't lose the head yet worrying about us going back to where we were in April with the whole country locked in, the government should do everything possible to prevent that situation again.

hotmail.com · 09-07-2020 10:01PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

A lockdown comes into place when the hospitals become overwhelmed. The hospitals are empty. Not gonna happen.

Was this the criteria Melbourne used for their fresh lockdown?

tom1ie · 09-07-2020 10:02PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

A lockdown comes into place when the hospitals become overwhelmed. The hospitals are empty. Not gonna happen.

Hope your proved right I really do.

tom1ie · 09-07-2020 10:03PM

Lyle wrote: »

I think there would have to be an absolutely catastrophic event for a full lockdown all around Ireland to happen again. We may get to a point where we have local, potentially county-wide lockdowns for any locality or county that has particular issues in keeping numbers low over time but I wouldn't lose the head yet worrying about us going back to where we were in April with the whole country locked in, the government should do everything possible to prevent that situation again.

Like for example banning USA tourists?

Atlantic Dawn · 09-07-2020 10:03PM

The government should encourage the building of massive hand sanitizer factories and then when this all blows over in 5 years time they can be retro fitted to produce whiskey or gin.

KrustyUCC · 09-07-2020 10:03PM

MickeyLeari wrote: »

Melbourne did. Look at Leicester, Brazil, Texas.

That means nothing

Why is a six week lockdown needed for Ireland?

Small cases and very good hospital and ICU numbers at the moment

ACitizenErased · 09-07-2020 10:04PM

Irish Examiner have it now about the West Cork GAA teams. This could be a turning point for sports going ahead.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/several-west-cork-gaa-clubs-stood-down-pending-covid-contact-assessment-1010306.html

hotmail.com · 09-07-2020 10:04PM

Lyle wrote: »

I think there would have to be an absolutely catastrophic event for a full lockdown all around Ireland to happen again. We may get to a point where we have local, potentially county-wide lockdowns for any locality or county that has particular issues in keeping numbers low over time but I wouldn't lose the head yet worrying about us going back to where we were in April with the whole country locked in, the government should do everything possible to prevent that situation again.

Local lockdown will presumably mean Dublin. We're a small country and if Dublin locked down, it will affect the whole country.

Lyle · 09-07-2020 10:05PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Like for example banning USA tourists?

This is why I said "should". I don't actually trust the stupid f*ckers to get much right to be honest on their performance so far but they have to know that we can't sustain a second national lockdown.

ACitizenErased · 09-07-2020 10:06PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Was this the criteria Melbourne used for their fresh lockdown?

Melbourne had uncontrolled community transmission. Our cases are tracked to known clusters. 15 of them are travel related, the remainder are nursing homes/private clusters. Big big difference.

stephenjmcd · 09-07-2020 10:06PM

HSE Operations update out.

As of 18:30, 9 covid patients in ICU, 7 ventilated. No change on yesterday.

As of 8pm, 11 covid paitents in general beds, down 1 on yesterday

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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