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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Travel. Is that time travel, space travel? It's not enough to just say travel. They should spell out what type of travel. Always concealing information to control the narrative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Icantthinkof1


    Could it be that those close contacts refusing the test on day 7 is because the first test on day 0 picked up that they had it? Therefore refusing test on day 7 as there would be no need for one
    *grasping firmly onto any straws here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Remember the days we were reporting 400 cases a day? Mad how things change, yet 23 feels like a lot given how well we’ve done. Perspective is a great thing, we’re well able to get this under control with a bit of cop on from government on travel. Open up to the EU and whatever other countries have it under control, shut to everywhere else. Fairly basic stuff like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,408 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    niallo27 wrote: »
    That's great news, chances of someone dying from these cases is absolutely tiny.

    It is not just the elderly dying from it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,236 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    polesheep wrote: »
    Travel. Is that time travel, space travel? It's not enough to just say travel. They should spell out what type of travel. Always concealing information to control the narrative.

    As not many of us time or space travel, it's patently obvious.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    polesheep wrote: »
    Travel. Is that time travel, space travel? It's not enough to just say travel. They should spell out what type of travel. Always concealing information to control the narrative.

    I think most people have enough intelligence to deduce what type travel it is......granted I suppose those who have actually booked holidays for the next few months (and actually think they can go happily) may be lacking quite a bit but surely they can figure out what type of travel it is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,370 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Not helped when there is images online of health care workers almost carrying out brain surgery with a swap.

    It looks worse than it is!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,408 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The thing thats annoying me the most is the close contacts refusing tests. Fairly fecking selfish.

    The tests should be mandatory, fined if refuse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I think most people have enough intelligence to deduce what type travel it is......granted I suppose those who have actually booked holidays for the next few months (and actually think they can go happily) may be lacking quite a bit but surely they can figure out what type of travel it is?

    Are you sure? Those Iraqis hadn't been on holiday. Travel covers a multitude, including repatriations, ferry journeys for funerals, etc. I realise that doesn't suit your purpose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    No entry without a mask, and all staff should return the compliment too. That's easy, otherwise it's a facetime consult or a 14 day quarantine for surgery staff. So simple really. If you NEED to go for whatever reason, you wear a mask. Same on Public Transport and in shops. Few are observing it. Don't see the danger I suppose, but not enough emphasis from Gov about this at all.

    Inward travel could become problematic. But hey ho, pubs opening up soon, holiday season resumes and away we go!


    I can't understand when they go to the trouble of sending a reminder text for the doctor's appointment that they can't include a request for people to wear masks when they visit the surgery.

    Unless and until the Government gets serious about the mask wearing, we are going to have this inconsistency all over the place. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    The tests should be mandatory, fined if refuse
    We don't actually have a law for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    As not many of us time or space travel, it's patently obvious.

    No, it's not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Remember the days we were reporting 400 cases a day? Mad how things change, yet 23 feels like a lot given how well we’ve done. Perspective is a great thing, we’re well able to get this under control with a bit of cop on from government on travel. Open up to the EU and whatever other countries have it under control, shut to everywhere else. Fairly basic stuff like.

    We all know this should happen, it's just that the new Admin is not decisive enough yet. We have to wait a bit for the Green corridors.

    However, I doubt they will stop inward travel from US and UK do you?

    In the meantime people can travel inwards with impunity, until a decision is made. It's like as if the Gov want to see what a free for all inward travel system looks like before they have to make a "hold the press" decision on the matter. Don't want to offend anyone do they, but the health of our country is far more important than how we look on the world stage, and no one gives a damn, every country is making decisions for their own citizens and no bad vibes for that AFAIS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Are you actually suprised?

    Yes actually, if your a close contact its in your own interests to start with to get the test


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    It is not just the elderly dying from it

    It's Just that they comprise the great majority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Ciara Kelly said thered be nothing wrong with people going off to the dordogne or similar, but listed off places that shouldn't be allowed.

    I bet she has a trip booked there

    Ciara looking after her own interests? Never! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Yes actually, if your a close contact its in your own interests to start with to get the test

    I know, I'd want to know I have this thing early to get the medical advice I need.

    Some people have their heads wedged firmly up their hole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    polesheep wrote: »
    Are you sure? Those Iraqis hadn't been on holiday. Travel covers a multitude, including repatriations, ferry journeys for funerals, etc. I realise that doesn't suit your purpose.

    Did you think the Iraqi's time travelled or do you think Iraq is in space? I get you may be confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Yes actually, if your a close contact its in your own interests to start with to get the test

    If it were me I would go out of my way to get a test. Some strange people in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,197 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I do think it's fair to see if this is rise of one day or if there is a trend upwards even though we had 24 cases this week on Tuesday of this week. We need to wait and see. That's not to say we shouldn't be vigilant and continue to do what we've done up till now but panic helps no one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Yes actually, if your a close contact its in your own interests to start with to get the test

    I'm suprised at that. Some idiots have regularly said this is only a flu or the restrictions are pointless and it only kills elderly.


    I'd imagine its some of those dopes laughing at the idea of a test.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,546 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    16 cases in sligo in the last 14 days https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=906366889773438&ref=watch_permalink




    kildare had 23 cases

    55 in dublin

    45 were health care workers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Weepsie wrote: »
    Ciara Kelly said thered be nothing wrong with people going off to the dordogne or similar, but listed off places that shouldn't be allowed.

    I bet she has a trip booked there

    Miaow.

    You're probably right though, she has been missing in action on NT this week anyway.

    As long as she and her family don't bring it back it's all good. If she is there in France, she got away before the Green Lane thinggy anyway. Clever woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,408 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Remember the days we were reporting 400 cases a day? Mad how things change, yet 23 feels like a lot given how well we’ve done. Perspective is a great thing, we’re well able to get this under control with a bit of cop on from government on travel. Open up to the EU and whatever other countries have it under control, shut to everywhere else. Fairly basic stuff like.

    Anyone can travel down from NI, the government need to get their fcuking act together on travel


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Did you think the Iraqi's time travelled or do you think Iraq is in space? I get you may be confused.

    You don't think the mode of travel, the origin of the traveller or the purpose of the travel are important? I'm glad you're not running any of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    As he's said for the last few weeks.

    Yet RTE have just basically given a public health warning with the headline R is close to or above 1 in the first piece of news read after the ad break.

    Media going to run with this now

    And a push notification to boot, without context.

    The media went into a frenzy a few weeks back when Germany went above one due to large meat factory clusters. The next day or so it was down to 0.6 again after they traced it very well. Very little reporting on the drop though.
    Seems like the cases today are related to really big clusters

    Didn’t catch the press conference, did they allude to clusters or mention specifics?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    yeah impose travel bans on high risk countries including the US for sure but the change in NI policy is now at odds with our blanket 14 day quarantine so its going to make any restrictions quite difficult

    The irony is northern Ireland and uk are more at risk from us now.
    The US is not on there safe to travel list,
    We have to put restrictions on high risk countries


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    polesheep wrote: »
    You don't think the mode of travel, the origin of the traveller or the purpose of the travel are important? I'm glad you're not running any of this.

    I'm getting the feeling you've a holiday booked?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    16 cases in sligo in the last 14 days https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=906366889773438&ref=watch_permalink


    heard of a house party kildare

    kildare had 23 cases

    55 in dublin

    45 were health care workers
    We're catching health care workers because we're testing them regularly. It goes to show how much undetected spread there may be. Opportunities for superspreading aren't going to be allowed anytime soon, but anyone going to a large event indoors (e.g. House party) is an idiot in my opinion.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I'm getting the feeling you've a holiday booked?

    That's not an answer. It's just another push for your agenda.


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