Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Santy2015 · 09-07-2020 06:22PM

Are all the jouros paid to be negative? From last week you’d know the R0 was going to 1, the way Nolan was talking.
But wasn’t it only last week as well that they said the R0 isn’t the real indicator it’s the icu, hospital admissions and so on.

brooke 2 · 09-07-2020 06:22PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Spent the other evening in Crumlin A&E, daughter and I were the only ones in masks apart from clinical staff. All patients, parents, admin and service staff without.

Same this morning when I was visiting my doctor. Was shocked to realise that I was the only patient there wearing a mask. Clinical staff were wearing masks but none of the administration.

Plumbthedepths · 09-07-2020 06:22PM

Some perspective needed before this thread turns into a complete mess.

https://www.thelocal.de/20200622/germanys-coronavirus-r-number-rockets-above-2-what-does-that-mean

ACitizenErased · 09-07-2020 06:23PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Some perspective needed before this thread turns into a complete mess.

https://www.thelocal.de/20200622/germanys-coronavirus-r-number-rockets-above-2-what-does-that-mean

The reproductive number is virtually irrelevant when we have such low case numbers

spookwoman · 09-07-2020 06:23PM

brooke 2 wrote: »

Same this morning when I was visiting my doctor. Was shocked to realise that I was the only patient there wearing a mask. Clinical staff were wearing masks but none of the administration.

That's very worrying

GooglePlus · 09-07-2020 06:23PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The new cases aren't particularly arising in Ireland. 15 of today's cases are from abroad. I don't think we have an issue here. The issue is people bringing it in.

We definitely have an issue, the virus is very contagious.

Our original cases were foreign contractions (obviously) and it began to spread within the community afterwards, so we're at serious risk of community spread increasing now.

ShineOn7 · 09-07-2020 06:23PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

40/50% of close contacts refuse the Day 7 test

What the fúck is this? It should be mandatory

Between that and our non existent airport restrictions, we really have a spineless Government

As ego driven as Leo was, he definitely seemed to take more action than the new fella

09-07-2020 06:24PM

niallo27 wrote: »

That's great news, chances of someone dying from these cases is absolutely tiny.

Until one of those cases infects their grandparents.

ACitizenErased · 09-07-2020 06:24PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

We definitely have an issue, the virus is very contagious.

Our original cases were foreign contractions (obviously) and it began to spread within the community afterwards, so we're at serious risk of community spread increasing now.

You can't really compare now to a time where social distancing didn't exist and a COVID test was not even attainable.

Lyle · 09-07-2020 06:25PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Some perspective needed before this thread turns into a complete mess.

https://www.thelocal.de/20200622/germanys-coronavirus-r-number-rockets-above-2-what-does-that-mean

Surely everyone by now knows its not something to lose their minds over? It's going to fluctuate and its not accurate when we have such small case numbers.

Jim_Hodge · 09-07-2020 06:25PM

brooke 2 wrote: »

Same this morning when I was visiting my doctor. Was shocked to realise that I was the only patient there wearing a mask. Clinical staff were wearing masks but none of the administration.

You're not allowed in the door of my doctor's without a mask and no waiting in the waiting room is allowed. All stuff wore masks too.

stephenjmcd · 09-07-2020 06:26PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The reproductive rate is now at or above 1

This was explained previously but its going to be used now as a headline of R above 1 or covid growing again.

In reality as it was explained not too long ago, when you have a smaller number of cases to work with R is very difficult to estimate and models will produce something close to 1 with low case numbers.
Occurred in Switzerland for example back in late May / early June and was explained well in a tweet. I'll try dig it up

Spanish Eyes · 09-07-2020 06:27PM

brooke 2 wrote: »

Same this morning when I was visiting my doctor. Was shocked to realise that I was the only patient there wearing a mask. Clinical staff were wearing masks but none of the administration.

No entry without a mask, and all staff should return the compliment too. That's easy, otherwise it's a facetime consult or a 14 day quarantine for surgery staff. So simple really. If you NEED to go for whatever reason, you wear a mask. Same on Public Transport and in shops. Few are observing it. Don't see the danger I suppose, but not enough emphasis from Gov about this at all.

Inward travel could become problematic. But hey ho, pubs opening up soon, holiday season resumes and away we go!

GooglePlus · 09-07-2020 06:27PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You can't really compare now to a time where social distancing didn't exist and a COVID test was not even attainable.

No, it's different alright but you just have to look around you to see that social distancing is not adhered to by everyone.

We might no see cases jump as fast as they did back in March and onwards but we will see them go up now that we have fresh outbreaks.

ACitizenErased · 09-07-2020 06:27PM

De Gascun seems fairly convinced it's not airborne. States the r-number would be in mid teens if it was the case.

Plumbthedepths · 09-07-2020 06:27PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The reproductive number is virtually irrelevant when we have such low case numbers

I agree, but many won't.

gipi · 09-07-2020 06:28PM

brooke 2 wrote: »

Same this morning when I was visiting my doctor. Was shocked to realise that I was the only patient there wearing a mask. Clinical staff were wearing masks but none of the administration.

My mother has visited her GP several times over the past couple of months - patients aren't allowed in unless they have a mask on. Front door on a buzzer with CCTV, so they can see from reception.

If a patient turns up without a mask, they are met by staff at the door and given one. All staff wearing mask and\or face shield

Atlantic Dawn · 09-07-2020 06:29PM

Why with all these figures about internal air transmission are we seeing no big outbreaks amongst staff working within supermarkets? You would assume the virus would spread like wildfire if that was the case as they are exposed daily to customers.

ACitizenErased · 09-07-2020 06:29PM

Seems like the cases today are related to really big clusters

Harry Palmr · 09-07-2020 06:29PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

All cases today are aged under 44

niallo27 wrote: »

That's great news, chances of someone dying from these cases is absolutely tiny.

They have families some of whom will be elderly.

Renjit wrote: »

Covid raves :pac:

House party fcukwits as documented in the media are probably part of this, maybe most of it.

martingriff · 09-07-2020 06:30PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The reproductive number is virtually irrelevant when we have such low case numbers

I would suggest you read on R number and exponential increase. Maybe fine atm but if it remains for only a few days iy can and would cause a problem been over 1

ACitizenErased · 09-07-2020 06:31PM

martingriff wrote: »

I would suggest you read on R number and exponential increase. Maybe fine atm but if it remains for only a few days iy can and would cause a problem been over 1

I would suggest you listen to the press conferences

Spanish Eyes · 09-07-2020 06:31PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You can't really compare now to a time where social distancing didn't exist and a COVID test was not even attainable.

But we still have to be cautious. Seems to me that all restrictions are over now and no one cares anymore.

It's all in the message or non message should I say. Open up, wear a mask if you feel like it, eat a meal or not in the pub, stay there all night (friends went to Wexford last weekend and it was a free for all, all night long). Etc. and so on.

I'm delighted things are opening up again for the sake of those who need their jobs back, but it really should have been partnered with a clear message about observing the rules for everyone's sake. But no.

Lollipop95 · 09-07-2020 06:32PM

Oh gosh I don’t like to see this after such positive trending over the last few days. Borders need to be closed if cases continue to rise

ACitizenErased · 09-07-2020 06:32PM

https://twitter.com/RobOHanrahan/status/1281280060461375488?s=20

niallo27 · 09-07-2020 06:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Until one of those cases infects their grandparents.

Ya but they aren't as of yet.

stephenjmcd · 09-07-2020 06:33PM

martingriff wrote: »

I would suggest you read on R number and exponential increase. Maybe fine atm but if it remains for only a few days iy can and would cause a problem been over 1

With all due respect if you've listened to Prof nolan this was flagged weeks ago, he said with lower cases to work with producing a R value would be difficult and would rise.
Only last week he said R was now not a statistic to be looking at

Lyle · 09-07-2020 06:33PM

And for close contacts of confirmed cases;

Day 0 testing - 19.7% don't turn up.

Day 7 testing - 48.9% don't turn up.

What a joke that is.

ACitizenErased · 09-07-2020 06:34PM

Prof. Nolan just said he 'is not sounding an alarm' because of the rising r-number.

stephenjmcd · 09-07-2020 06:34PM

Lollipop95 wrote: »

Oh gosh I don’t like to see this after such positive trending over the last few days. Borders need to be closed if cases continue to rise

close what borders ??? NI are removing quarantine for low and medium risk countries so how exactly do we close the borders

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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