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Do you make any assumptions based on the brand someone uses?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    jaxxx wrote: »
    It's a f*cking metal box :pac: You can paint all the pretty little badges on it you want. At the end of the day, a Ferrari worth €200k ain't going to get you from A to B much quicker than a car costing 1/10 of that cos of a little something called the speed limit Jesus :D

    If you don’t understand the difference between a quality car and a ****box that’s fine but other people do appreciate the difference and are happy to pay extra for it.

    Despite what you think, not all cars are created equal.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    If you don’t understand the difference between a quality car and a ****box that’s fine

    Indeed, for some a car is just a mode of transport or a status symbol.

    but other people do appreciate the difference and are happy to pay extra for it.

    Even people who don't appreciate the difference are happy to pay more, plenty of expensive ****boxes out at the moment and throughout the years.

    Despite what you think, not all cars are created equal.

    Completely right, the fallacy many fall for is that expensive and new = better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭lickalot


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    which one do you want? which one would be nicer to drive? would make you feel good driving? which one wouldn't break down on you some day going to work?

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/vw-golf/24922465

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2019-mercedes-benz-e-class-e400-d-4matic-amg-line/25236642

    To be honest I never spent more than 1500 on a car. I just get one with a new NCT and never had any issues with any cars i bought "Breaking down on the way to work".

    I have an accord now, grand car. Before that I had a full cream leather Merc C Class that lasted me three years and only paid 1200 for it.

    I earn good money in work and just find it pointless spending it on cars. They all do the same thing, get you from A to B.

    I'll keep my money to retire as early as i can and take my six weeks holidays from work travelling the world every year.

    I find people saying "Breaking down on the way to work" trying to justify wasting money on a depreciating asset in all honesty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    Completely right, the fallacy many fall for is that expensive and new = better.

    Some may fall for that and I’m glad they do because I get to buy it some years later for a fraction of the price.

    The quality car will still be a quality car though. The ****box will likely be ready for the scrap yard.

    They aren’t the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭lickalot


    Some may fall for that and I’m glad they do because I get to buy it some years later for a fraction of the price.

    The quality car will still be a quality car though. The ****box will likely be ready for the scrap yard.

    They aren’t the same.

    Its usually the more expensive cars that are ready for the scrap yard like BMW and Audi's when they get older, not the cheaper cars.


  • Registered Users Posts: 288 ✭✭JL555


    Not really, sometimes react to the immature assumptions of others, which I shouldn't do, but then I realise that they're complete tossers and everything's great again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,531 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Juicy Couture - walking around with juicy emblazoned across your arse = skanger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    To be fair, Ireland has always had high numbers of unemployment due to reasons outside of the unemployed populations control yet they're constantly shamed publicly and judged for being unemployed yet there's no efforts to create job stability in certain jobs through implementing workers rights or increase job opportunities particularly outside of Dublin but I digress.

    I don't tend to judge people on brands they use but when I see people que for 10 hours for a new Iphone or a pair Yeezy shoes, I lose a little bit more faith in humanity.


    long term unemployed so. a young healthy person who is long term unemployed just because he/she is lazy. There is no excuse for being long term unemployed, you either get a job, go to college or emigrate. But that is for another thread, I have been unemployed myself but im not a waster, i always had a plan to get myself earning again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    long term unemployed so. a young healthy person who is long term unemployed just because he/she is lazy. There is no excuse for being long term unemployed, you either get a job, go to college or emigrate. But that is for another thread, I have been unemployed myself but im not a waster, i always had a plan to get myself earning again.

    Fair play to ya ! You're a great lad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    long term unemployed so. a young healthy person who is long term unemployed just because he/she is lazy. There is no excuse for being long term unemployed, you either get a job, go to college or emigrate. But that is for another thread, I have been unemployed myself but im not a waster, i always had a plan to get myself earning again.

    I dont want to derail the thread but just because that worked out for you doesnt mean it's like that for everyone. Allot of young, healthy people struggle to find work in Ireland even with qualifications. Emigration isnt an option for everyone, age and health arent the only factors that come into it. I just wouldnt be so quick to judge people so harshly because theyre long term unemployed. I would wonder do the unemployment rates in young people correlate with the high numbers of suicide in that age group.
    I found it impossible to get work when young, while all my friends where getting their first jobs through family connections, employers wouldn't give me a chance because I had no experience, in other words - they didnt know me and would rather give the job to a family friend or relative. This can go on for years, its very easy to fall into long term unemployment at any age.
    Youre not better than anyone because you got the job, doesnt mean you tried any harder or less harder than the ones who didnt get the job.


    In regards to brands, dont see it so much anymore but around 2005 - roughly 2012 when playboy products were all the rage with women and girls. I judged them then and I judge them now.
    A girl who was in our friend group from around this time got a playboy bunny tattoo and a Twilight tattoo. She's in her 30's now and I can only imagine the regret.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I dont want to derail the thread but just because that worked out for you doesnt mean it's like that for everyone. Allot of young, healthy people struggle to find work in Ireland even with qualifications. Emigration isnt an option for everyone, age and health arent the only factors that come into it. I just wouldnt be so quick to judge people so harshly because theyre long term unemployed. I would wonder do the unemployment rates in young people correlate with the high numbers of suicide in that age group.
    I found it impossible to get work when young, while all my friends where getting their first jobs through family connections, employers wouldn't give me a chance because I had no experience, in other words - they didnt know me and would rather give the job to a family friend or relative. This can go on for years, its very easy to fall into long term unemployment at any age.
    Youre not better than anyone because you got the job, doesnt mean you tried any harder or less harder than the ones who didnt get the job.


    In regards to brands, dont see it so much anymore but around 2005 - roughly 2012 when playboy products were all the rage with women and girls. I judged them then and I judge them now.
    A girl who was in our friend group from around this time got a playboy bunny tattoo and a Twilight tattoo. She's in her 30's now and I can only imagine the regret.




    Sorry but I hate excuses. And yes someone who does something about finding a job or gets educated is better than someone who doesn't try, and just feels sorry for themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭micar


    People who cycle Carrera bikes from Halfords.

    They just don't look great.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Limpy


    micar wrote: »
    People who cycle Carrera bikes from Halfords.

    They just don't look great.

    Gimme a Carrera over a hybrid anyday, as they are similar in price.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    How can anyone argue passionately about a phone/tablet/laptop/pc?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,796 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    kowloon wrote: »
    The Beats headphone one I've seen in thread, I've heard from someone who works in recording that they're widely known to be something sold on fashion appeal and not something for audiophiles. I doubt I could tell the difference.

    The only time I’ve tried Beats was in a display in a department store a few years ago. They sounded ok, but I was taken aback by how ****ty the build quality was of them, felt like plastic cheap crap that you’d be afraid to drop.

    Spent good money on a pair of Sennheiser headphones. Never going back to any other brand. I was playing a live album of The Who that I must have played 367 times over the years and the quality of the sound was other worldly, like being there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭king_of_mayo


    Mentioned all ready but Apple - More money than sense.

    To me, it has a better build quality from experience.

    My iPhone had an unfortunate unexpected fall last week :( 5 years service and ended due to my stupidity doing a lazy man's load. I can point to many friends who've had 3 or more phones in that time period.

    I don't know you but I reckon my 5 year old Macbook could kick your laptop's ass. No battery issues, can last long time and is still great for dev work.

    My 13 year old Mac mini is still operational and is set up as my parent's computing device.

    Did those cost more at the time than other brand equivalents? Yup. Would other brand equivalents last the same? Nah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭king_of_mayo


    Not a brand but if I hear someone has a PCP car deal, I assume they're financially illiterate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    micar wrote: »
    People who cycle Carrera bikes from Halfords.

    They just don't look great.

    Maybe not, but they get the job done, and are not high maintenance . Decent bike for what ya pay for it . It’s not like you’d dare cycling and park your best bike when going in and out of Dublin for work etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 859 ✭✭✭Randy Archer


    Tattoos (Not a brand per se ) - has the trend died down a bit ? = tramps


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,547 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Tattoos (Not a brand per se ) - has the trend died down a bit ? = tramps

    I think people can get wherever tattoos they want. But nobody thinks tattoos are classy.

    If you've a sleeve tattoo or a neck tattoo, it means you've no interest in being middle class. Fair play and obviously it's you're right to do what you want. It marks you out as making an obvious statement of intending to project yourself as being permanently working/benefits class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I think people can get wherever tattoos they want. But nobody thinks tattoos are classy.

    If you've a sleeve tattoo or a neck tattoo, it means you've no interest in being middle class. Fair play and obviously it's you're right to do what you want. It marks you out as making an obvious statement of intending to project yourself as being permanently working/benefits class.




    So Joe Rogan is working class?

    https://www.thesun.ie/sport/mma/5573416/ufc-joe-rogan-podcast-california-mansion/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I think people can get wherever tattoos they want. But nobody thinks tattoos are classy.

    If you've a sleeve tattoo or a neck tattoo, it means you've no interest in being middle class. Fair play and obviously it's you're right to do what you want. It marks you out as making an obvious statement of intending to project yourself as being permanently working/benefits class.

    This is the greatest pile how horseshít I've read in quite a while!

    Nobody thinks tattoos are classy?
    How the fcuk could you possibly know this?
    (hint, you don't)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    To be fair and regardless of one's position on tattoos, an example like Rogan is pointless. He's a rarity, an outlier, a very successful performer. Such people are expected to be different, to stand out, to not be mainstream every day people doing the 9-5 office grind. That's akin to suggesting that heroin is "classy" because Keith Richards worth bazillions was strung out on it in the 70's.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Not a brand but if I hear someone has a PCP car deal, I assume they're financially illiterate.

    Same, I assume anyone driving a Hyundai Tucson or Kia Sportage has it on finance. Sorry to those genuine owners who paid in hard cash:o


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I’d more judge someone if there are brands they refuse to use.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Same, I assume anyone driving a Hyundai Tucson or Kia Sportage has it on finance. Sorry to those genuine owners who paid in hard cash:o

    I don't get the PCP hate. It can and often is cheaper than hire purchase/straight finance from the garage or a car loan from a bank. Was for me anyway.

    I get criticism in general about financial sense of buying a brand new car, but not about PCP which I found the best way of financing myself


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Anytime I hear or see Burberry I still think you may be a chav.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Wibbs wrote: »
    To be fair and regardless of one's position on tattoos, an example like Rogan is pointless. He's a rarity, an outlier, a very successful performer. Such people are expected to be different, to stand out, to not be mainstream every day people doing the 9-5 office grind. That's akin to suggesting that heroin is "classy" because Keith Richards worth bazillions was strung out on it in the 70's.



    nearly every premier league footballer have sleeve tattoos, are they all working class/benefits class as well? that poster said if you have sleeve tattoos you cant be middle class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Wibbs wrote: »
    To be fair and regardless of one's position on tattoos, an example like Rogan is pointless. He's a rarity, an outlier, a very successful performer. Such people are expected to be different, to stand out, to not be mainstream every day people doing the 9-5 office grind. That's akin to suggesting that heroin is "classy" because Keith Richards worth bazillions was strung out on it in the 70's.

    So, Keith Richards is working class?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    So, Keith Richards is working class?
    Middle class IIRC, or was that Jagger? Can't remember. A lot of the British 60's counter culture guys came from leafy suburban middle class backgrounds and rebelled against that to some degree.
    pgj2015 wrote: »
    nearly every premier league footballer have sleeve tattoos, are they all working class/benefits class as well? that poster said if you have sleeve tattoos you cant be middle class.
    Footballists would generally tend to come from working class backgrounds. It was very much a working class sport on the pitch and in the stands though that blurred to some degree as the years went on.

    Tattoos and uptakes in the social strata have ebbed and flowed down the years. It was at one time to be found among the working classes and royalty at the same time. Ditto for piercings. Middle classes back then nope, though the middle classes, especially those newly minted in the previous generation tend to be very risk averse and feel the need to fit in with mannered society as they see and gauge it, so tatts would be going off piste because of the "working class" associations and the need to distance themselves from that past. Latterly it's certainly less class based alright, but still has that association for some. Though I don't see why the association is any sort of problem myself.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Anytime I hear or see Burberry I still think you may be a chav.
    Burberry once a very upper crust brand is a brand that went the other direction as far as perceptions of "class" go. It has been extremely profitable for them.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Middle class IIRC, or was that Jagger? Can't remember. A lot of the British 60's counter culture guys came from leafy suburban middle class backgrounds and rebelled against that to some degree.

    Footballists would generally tend to come from working class backgrounds. It was very much a working class sport on the pitch and in the stands though that blurred to some degree as the years went on.

    Tattoos and uptakes in the social strata have ebbed and flowed down the years. It was at one time to be found among the working classes and royalty at the same time. Ditto for piercings. Middle classes back then nope, though the middle classes, especially those newly minted in the previous generation tend to be very risk averse and feel the need to fit in with mannered society as they see and gauge it, so tatts would be going off piste because of the "working class" associations and the need to distance themselves from that past. Latterly it's certainly less class based alright, but still has that association for some. Though I don't see why the association is any sort of problem myself.



    in 2020 you definitely cant judge someones class ranking on sleeve tattoos, they are just seen as fashion, look at tommy hilfigers son and tom hanks son, two ejits but still definitely not welfare or working class.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    in 2020 you definitely cant judge someones class ranking on sleeve tattoos, they are just seen as fashion, look at tommy hilfigers son and tom hanks son, two ejits but still definitely not welfare or working class.
    True, though both being from that extremely wealthy background they can essentially do what they like as far as socially fitting in is concerned. I suspect El D is more referring to leafy suburban aspirational professional classes where attitudes and "tribal" symbols are more fixed and in those surroundings tattoos would be frowned upon as "tacky" in general. Your daughter gets a tramp stamp in Ibiza, that raises eyebrows. My god Proinsias what has she done to herself type vibe. Full sleeves? Attack of the vapours time for a fair percentage.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    in 2020 you definitely cant judge someones class ranking on sleeve tattoos, they are just seen as fashion, look at tommy hilfigers son and tom hanks son, two ejits but still definitely not welfare or working class.

    Most of em are just trend followers that get nonsense tattoos because its cool, nothing to do with class, how is this even a discussion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Wibbs wrote: »
    True, though both being from that extremely wealthy background they can essentially do what they like as far as socially fitting in is concerned. I suspect El D is more referring to leafy suburban aspirational professional classes where attitudes and "tribal" symbols are more fixed and in those surroundings tattoos would be frowned upon as "tacky" in general. Your daughter gets a tramp stamp in Ibiza, that raises eyebrows. My god Proinsias what has she done to herself type vibe. Full sleeves? Attack of the vapours time for a fair percentage.



    iv seen a good few British cops with sleeve tattoos, they definitely aren't working or welfare class, also if they dont care about people judging them then I dont see why someone working in an office would. I dont have tattoos by the way but I wouldnt make any judgements on anyone who have them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Most of em are just trend followers that get nonsense tattoos because its cool, nothing to do with class, how is this even a discussion?

    It’s a bit mad, isn’t it? Tattoo are no longer the “sole preserve” of sailors, squaddies or street gang members.

    They’re just like a piercing these days. There’s a number of lads in the club who’d have them, one even has a “sleeve”.

    The days of there being a “stigma” around them are long gone. But it’s ok for someone not to like them, they don’t have to get one.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭take everything


    From the poshest of the posh all the way down to the most deprived.

    People are mostly just unconscious, consuming dummies.
    God bless them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭SineadSpears


    Men in New Balance trainers look like their hobbies include creeping in the bushes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    Middle class rock stars “You may as well get shot of Lou Reed, Neil Young, REM, three Beatles, two of the Stones, all of the Beach Boys, Beefheart, the Pixies and Miles Davis.” (Christian Savill of Slowdive)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,547 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    This is the greatest pile how horseshít I've read in quite a while!

    Nobody thinks tattoos are classy?
    How the fcuk could you possibly know this?
    (hint, you don't)

    Well you might think tattoos are classy. But I doubt many peope hold that opinion.

    Seriously, tattoos might be a lot of things, classy ain't among them. That's can't be news to you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,646 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Lot of lads driving very fancy BMWs or Audis around and they can barely afford to fill them with fuel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,438 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    iv seen a good few British cops with sleeve tattoos, they definitely aren't working or welfare class, also if they dont care about people judging them then I dont see why someone working in an office would. I dont have tattoos by the way but I wouldnt make any judgements on anyone who have them.

    I was waiting in the lobby of Dundrum Garda Station last year, when three of what I presumed were detectives came walking through, into the staff area. One had substantial tattoos on both arms, which wasn't quite what I was expecting, but there you go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,547 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    nearly every premier league footballer have sleeve tattoos, are they all working class/benefits class as well? that poster said if you have sleeve tattoos you cant be middle class.

    Most footballers are certainly born into working class. I dont think footballers are representitive of much. I don't think they generally have time for formal education or anything like that.

    But in fairness, it's probably getting off topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,280 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    jaxxx wrote: »
    As well as BMW and Mercedes drivers.

    Hey now, I drive a Merc and I probably drive more road legal than the vast majority, to the point that people look at me weird when I go around a roundabout properly (ie: not cutting it, even if everyone else does). I also indicate religiously, and I've noticed Merc drivers definitely indicate more than Audi drivers, and BMW, well, they never do. I'm trying to change the view on Merc drivers!

    Also, having had a range of cars from Corollas, Galants, Civics, Volvos and Nissans, I can hand on heart say that Mercs are worth every penny extra, the comfort is non-comparible to the "normal" cars. Every car I've had, I'd have a pain in my back after driving to Dubland (from Limerick), but I could drive all around Europe without stopping in the Merc and still be grand. Great cars, can't see myself buying a different brand again.
    I’d more judge someone if there are brands they refuse to use.

    Judge away, even if I win the lotto I still won't wear fashion brand clothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Person wearing a MUFC jersey: I assume they support MUFC

    Person wearing a LFC jersey: I assume they support LFC

    Person wearing a MCFC jersey: I assume I am delusional and seeing things

    Person wearing a Celtic jersey: I assume they are scum

    Person wearing a full kit (including socks and boots) away from a football pitch: I assume they are a full kit w@nker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,960 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    Person wearing a MCFC jersey: I assume I am delusional and seeing things

    In the ‘80s & ‘90s the Evening Herald used to publish contact details and meeting notices for supporters’ clubs. Manchester City had one in Westport & Wexford as well as the usual cities. It’s a complete myth that their fans only came along once the success arrived in 2011. I grew up in a small rural town and there were 9 City fans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Lot of lads driving very fancy BMWs or Audis around and they can barely afford to fill them with fuel.

    PCP is some racket

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Tattoos (Not a brand per se ) - has the trend died down a bit ? = tramps

    Seen a lad with a big Star Wars Rebel Alliance symbol on his arm. Thought nerd* rather than tramp!

    The amount of well to do women with a stupid butterfly or some such that's blown out is mad.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Feisar wrote: »
    PCP is some racket

    Again, it's only an issue if you can't afford it. It can be the cheapest and most straightforward way of financing a new car, if a new car is what you want.

    I'd recommend it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    8-10 wrote: »
    Again, it's only an issue if you can't afford it. It can be the cheapest and most straightforward way of financing a new car, if a new car is what you want.

    I'd recommend it

    Like everything in life!

    First they came for the socialists...



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