Do you make any assumptions based on the brand someone uses?

pleasant Co. wrote: »

Completely right, the fallacy many fall for is that expensive and new = better.

Some may fall for that and I’m glad they do because I get to buy it some years later for a fraction of the price.

The quality car will still be a quality car though. The ****box will likely be ready for the scrap yard.

They aren’t the same.

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

To be fair, Ireland has always had high numbers of unemployment due to reasons outside of the unemployed populations control yet they're constantly shamed publicly and judged for being unemployed yet there's no efforts to create job stability in certain jobs through implementing workers rights or increase job opportunities particularly outside of Dublin but I digress.

I don't tend to judge people on brands they use but when I see people que for 10 hours for a new Iphone or a pair Yeezy shoes, I lose a little bit more faith in humanity.

long term unemployed so. a young healthy person who is long term unemployed just because he/she is lazy. There is no excuse for being long term unemployed, you either get a job, go to college or emigrate. But that is for another thread, I have been unemployed myself but im not a waster, i always had a plan to get myself earning again.

pgj2015 wrote: »

long term unemployed so. a young healthy person who is long term unemployed just because he/she is lazy. There is no excuse for being long term unemployed, you either get a job, go to college or emigrate. But that is for another thread, I have been unemployed myself but im not a waster, i always had a plan to get myself earning again.

I dont want to derail the thread but just because that worked out for you doesnt mean it's like that for everyone. Allot of young, healthy people struggle to find work in Ireland even with qualifications. Emigration isnt an option for everyone, age and health arent the only factors that come into it. I just wouldnt be so quick to judge people so harshly because theyre long term unemployed. I would wonder do the unemployment rates in young people correlate with the high numbers of suicide in that age group.
I found it impossible to get work when young, while all my friends where getting their first jobs through family connections, employers wouldn't give me a chance because I had no experience, in other words - they didnt know me and would rather give the job to a family friend or relative. This can go on for years, its very easy to fall into long term unemployment at any age.
Youre not better than anyone because you got the job, doesnt mean you tried any harder or less harder than the ones who didnt get the job.


In regards to brands, dont see it so much anymore but around 2005 - roughly 2012 when playboy products were all the rage with women and girls. I judged them then and I judge them now.
A girl who was in our friend group from around this time got a playboy bunny tattoo and a Twilight tattoo. She's in her 30's now and I can only imagine the regret.

People who cycle Carrera bikes from Halfords.

They just don't look great.

Randy Archer wrote: »

Tattoos (Not a brand per se ) - has the trend died down a bit ? = tramps

I think people can get wherever tattoos they want. But nobody thinks tattoos are classy.

If you've a sleeve tattoo or a neck tattoo, it means you've no interest in being middle class. Fair play and obviously it's you're right to do what you want. It marks you out as making an obvious statement of intending to project yourself as being permanently working/benefits class.

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I think people can get wherever tattoos they want. But nobody thinks tattoos are classy.

If you've a sleeve tattoo or a neck tattoo, it means you've no interest in being middle class. Fair play and obviously it's you're right to do what you want. It marks you out as making an obvious statement of intending to project yourself as being permanently working/benefits class.

This is the greatest pile how horseshít I've read in quite a while!

Nobody thinks tattoos are classy?
How the fcuk could you possibly know this?
(hint, you don't)

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Same, I assume anyone driving a Hyundai Tucson or Kia Sportage has it on finance. Sorry to those genuine owners who paid in hard cash:o

I don't get the PCP hate. It can and often is cheaper than hire purchase/straight finance from the garage or a car loan from a bank. Was for me anyway.

I get criticism in general about financial sense of buying a brand new car, but not about PCP which I found the best way of financing myself

Wibbs wrote: »

To be fair and regardless of one's position on tattoos, an example like Rogan is pointless. He's a rarity, an outlier, a very successful performer. Such people are expected to be different, to stand out, to not be mainstream every day people doing the 9-5 office grind. That's akin to suggesting that heroin is "classy" because Keith Richards worth bazillions was strung out on it in the 70's.

nearly every premier league footballer have sleeve tattoos, are they all working class/benefits class as well? that poster said if you have sleeve tattoos you cant be middle class.

Wibbs wrote: »

Middle class IIRC, or was that Jagger? Can't remember. A lot of the British 60's counter culture guys came from leafy suburban middle class backgrounds and rebelled against that to some degree.

Footballists would generally tend to come from working class backgrounds. It was very much a working class sport on the pitch and in the stands though that blurred to some degree as the years went on.

Tattoos and uptakes in the social strata have ebbed and flowed down the years. It was at one time to be found among the working classes and royalty at the same time. Ditto for piercings. Middle classes back then nope, though the middle classes, especially those newly minted in the previous generation tend to be very risk averse and feel the need to fit in with mannered society as they see and gauge it, so tatts would be going off piste because of the "working class" associations and the need to distance themselves from that past. Latterly it's certainly less class based alright, but still has that association for some. Though I don't see why the association is any sort of problem myself.

in 2020 you definitely cant judge someones class ranking on sleeve tattoos, they are just seen as fashion, look at tommy hilfigers son and tom hanks son, two ejits but still definitely not welfare or working class.

Cupatae wrote: »

Most of em are just trend followers that get nonsense tattoos because its cool, nothing to do with class, how is this even a discussion?

It’s a bit mad, isn’t it? Tattoo are no longer the “sole preserve” of sailors, squaddies or street gang members.

They’re just like a piercing these days. There’s a number of lads in the club who’d have them, one even has a “sleeve”.

The days of there being a “stigma” around them are long gone. But it’s ok for someone not to like them, they don’t have to get one.

Men in New Balance trainers look like their hobbies include creeping in the bushes

the beer revolu wrote: »

This is the greatest pile how horseshít I've read in quite a while!

Nobody thinks tattoos are classy?
How the fcuk could you possibly know this?
(hint, you don't)

Well you might think tattoos are classy. But I doubt many peope hold that opinion.

Seriously, tattoos might be a lot of things, classy ain't among them. That's can't be news to you.

pgj2015 wrote: »

iv seen a good few British cops with sleeve tattoos, they definitely aren't working or welfare class, also if they dont care about people judging them then I dont see why someone working in an office would. I dont have tattoos by the way but I wouldnt make any judgements on anyone who have them.

I was waiting in the lobby of Dundrum Garda Station last year, when three of what I presumed were detectives came walking through, into the staff area. One had substantial tattoos on both arms, which wasn't quite what I was expecting, but there you go.

jaxxx wrote: »

As well as BMW and Mercedes drivers.

Hey now, I drive a Merc and I probably drive more road legal than the vast majority, to the point that people look at me weird when I go around a roundabout properly (ie: not cutting it, even if everyone else does). I also indicate religiously, and I've noticed Merc drivers definitely indicate more than Audi drivers, and BMW, well, they never do. I'm trying to change the view on Merc drivers!

Also, having had a range of cars from Corollas, Galants, Civics, Volvos and Nissans, I can hand on heart say that Mercs are worth every penny extra, the comfort is non-comparible to the "normal" cars. Every car I've had, I'd have a pain in my back after driving to Dubland (from Limerick), but I could drive all around Europe without stopping in the Merc and still be grand. Great cars, can't see myself buying a different brand again.

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I’d more judge someone if there are brands they refuse to use.

Judge away, even if I win the lotto I still won't wear fashion brand clothing.

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Person wearing a MCFC jersey: I assume I am delusional and seeing things

In the ‘80s & ‘90s the Evening Herald used to publish contact details and meeting notices for supporters’ clubs. Manchester City had one in Westport & Wexford as well as the usual cities. It’s a complete myth that their fans only came along once the success arrived in 2011. I grew up in a small rural town and there were 9 City fans.

Randy Archer wrote: »

Tattoos (Not a brand per se ) - has the trend died down a bit ? = tramps

Seen a lad with a big Star Wars Rebel Alliance symbol on his arm. Thought nerd* rather than tramp!

The amount of well to do women with a stupid butterfly or some such that's blown out is mad.

8-10 wrote: »

Again, it's only an issue if you can't afford it. It can be the cheapest and most straightforward way of financing a new car, if a new car is what you want.

I'd recommend it

Like everything in life!