Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

ShineOn7 · 07-07-2020 07:10PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Looks like there was a significant increase in Dublin yesterday.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1280553588125810696?s=21

8 cases is hardly a "sharp uptick" is it?

caveat emptor · 07-07-2020 07:12PM

Ae Fond Kiss wrote: »

New to boards.ie. Just reading through some of this thread. So many posts!

Have one question. We've done well and are continuing to do so. I know it's a bit of a 'what are the lotto numbers' question but what do posters think is the likelihood of a second wave later in the year?

Welcome!

Good question. Nodbody knows. Here's some highly scientific graphs though.

Plumbthedepths · 07-07-2020 07:14PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Was with you up to 7, but quite frankly you'll have to persuade me further or provide a source for 8.

Bill gates is working on wave 8 with the reverse vampires.

Funsterdelux · 07-07-2020 07:15PM

Stheno wrote: »

I've installed the app but cannot enable the contact tracing piece. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

Am checking for updates at the minute

Did you press the any key?

ShineOn7 · 07-07-2020 07:16PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Welcome!

Good question. Nodbody knows. Here's some highly scientific graphs though.

Not sure which door I'd like to choose

The middle one maybe? Get the brunt of it out of the way

Funsterdelux · 07-07-2020 07:18PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Bill gates is working on wave 8 with the reverse vampires.

Dont so silly, we all know reverse vampires are extinct

Pistachio19 · 07-07-2020 07:18PM

Stheno wrote: »

I've installed the app but cannot enable the contact tracing piece. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

Am checking for updates at the minute

Your phone might be too old, like my prehistoric iphone5. It won't work with older phones.

billyhead · 07-07-2020 07:19PM

There must be a good chance this virus will eventually burn itselve out like the Spanish Flu after the 2nd wave hit? We mightn't even get a 2nd wave.

caveat emptor · 07-07-2020 07:22PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Not sure which door I'd like to choose

The middle one maybe? Get the brunt of it out of the way

That’s your classic Boris bosh,
Take it on the chin like a real man 1918 style.

Luckily there are no world wars. If we wanted to opt for that approach we’d have to incentivise the spread by offering free drink in overcrowded pubs for those mad enough to get the ball rolling. Maybe 10 euro flights to area worst affected.

Hopefully it’s door number 3. We’ll have to strap ourselves in and find out.

DevilsHaircut · 07-07-2020 07:23PM

AdamD wrote: »

Surely the point would also be to go get tested

No.

The incubation period after being infected and before showing symptoms is assumed to be a maximum of 14 days (hence, that forms the basis of our existing rules about self-isolation, sans the app).

If you are 'pinged' as a close contact and test negative today, you would still, rightly, have to self-isolate (i.e. not go to work, shops unless absolutely necessary).

ShineOn7 · 07-07-2020 07:25PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

That’s your classic Boris bosh,
Take it on the chin like a real man 1918 style.

Well I'd rather not be compared to that absolute gobshíte ;-)

So maybe door number 3?

The wave after number 2 still looks quite significant, even after a rough looking curve

stephenjmcd · 07-07-2020 07:27PM

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

No.

The incubation period after being infected and before showing symptoms is assumed to be a maximum of 14 days (hence, that forms the basis of our existing rules about self-isolation, sans the app).

If you are 'pinged' as a close contact and test negative today, you would still, rightly, have to self-isolate (i.e. not go to work, shops unless absolutely necessary).

You get tested on day 0, the day your identified as a close contact & day 7

07-07-2020 07:33PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

It doesn't use data, only bluetooth

To share your contact info with the servers if you test positive, or to get notification that you are a contact you would need mobile data or WiFi

Stheno · 07-07-2020 07:35PM

Pistachio19 wrote: »

Your phone might be too old, like my prehistoric iphone5. It won't work with older phones.

It needed an update

It's a fairly new phone, less than two years old, the update fixed it

ShineOn7 · 07-07-2020 07:36PM

So the App will tell me if I've been in contact with anyone that had it?

Couple of questions:

How far back does that go? 30 days?
How are people finding it affects their phone's battery? Having an App that constantly tracks your location must surely drain anything below an iPhone XS?I have Location Services switched to Off on most Apps for this reason

07-07-2020 07:39PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

So the App will tell me if I've been in contact with anyone that had it?

Couple of questions:
How far back does that go? 30 days?

How are people finding it affects their phone's battery? Having an App that constantly tracks your location must surely drain anything below an iPhone XS?I have Location Services switched to Off on most Apps for this reason

It doesn’t track your location. Only phones you have been in the vicinity of that also have the app

GooglePlus · 07-07-2020 07:40PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

So the App will tell me if I've been in contact with anyone that had it?

Couple of questions:
How far back does that go? 30 days?

How are people finding it affects their phone's battery? Having an App that constantly tracks your location must surely drain anything below an iPhone XS?I have Location Services switched to Off on most Apps for this reason

Not sure how far it goes back, but it's only storing digits so I'd imagine it can go as far back as you have it active. It would only need to go back 3 or so weeks anyway.

The app doesn't use location services, it uses Bluetooth to track who you are near for longer than 15 minutes.

ShineOn7 · 07-07-2020 07:46PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

The app doesn't use location services, it uses Bluetooth to track who you are near for longer than 15 minutes.

Doesn't having Bluetooth constantly on drain battery faster too?

Easy to know I need a phone upgrade eh?

Stheno · 07-07-2020 07:47PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Doesn't having Bluetooth constantly on drain battery faster too?

Easy to know I need a phone upgrade eh?

You could just have bluetooth on when you leave your house?

fritzelly · 07-07-2020 07:49PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Not sure how far it goes back, but it's only storing digits so I'd imagine it can go as far back as you have it active. It would only need to go back 3 or so weeks anyway.

The app doesn't use location services, it uses Bluetooth to track who you are near for longer than 15 minutes.

Everything older than 14 days is deleted

07-07-2020 07:55PM

If it uses low power bluetooth, I doubt it would make much difference. There's a big difference between this type of app and playing music to wireless headphones.

Eod100 · 07-07-2020 08:05PM

Stheno wrote: »

You could just have bluetooth on when you leave your house?

I was wondering about that. Presume you would still get the push notification to say you were in close contact with someone if bluetooth was off ya? As in you just need to have it on when out and likely to be in contact with people?

Think it works through keys and so would be via data not bluetooth and that bluetooth is only needed to see if devices were in contact

caveat emptor · 07-07-2020 08:06PM

He’s fairly confident he’ll be grand. Athletic history and all......

fritzelly · 07-07-2020 08:10PM

Eod100 wrote: »

I was wondering about that. Presume you would still get the push notification to say you were in close contact with someone if bluetooth was off ya? As in you just need to have it on when out and likely to be in contact with people?

Think it works through keys and so would be via data not bluetooth and that bluetooth is only needed to see if devices were in contact

BT is used to store the ID of other app users when you are out and about and in close contact for more than 15 minutes

For push notifications and for the app to update it's positive keys (so it knows if to alert you) you need internet

cnocbui · 07-07-2020 08:14PM

Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro tests positive for coronavirus

Now hoping for a second positive outcome.

Non solum non ambulabit · 07-07-2020 08:28PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Not sure which door I'd like to choose

The middle one maybe? Get the brunt of it out of the way

3 surely? 2 means biggest wave yet to come

Van.Bosch · 07-07-2020 08:30PM

cnocbui wrote: »

Now hoping for a second positive outcome.

Rumours it’s an elaborate hoax, to back up his claim that it is not that serious. He’ll recover in 2 days and say how great he is, a bit like kim jong il’s first ever round of golf when he shot 4 hole in ones.

ShineOn7 · 07-07-2020 08:32PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

3 surely? 2 means biggest wave yet to come

I don't like this TV quiz show

All the doors are zero craic

ACitizenErased · 07-07-2020 08:33PM

The app is heading towards 800k downloads by tomorrow, incredible uptake

07-07-2020 08:33PM

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Rumours it’s an elaborate hoax, to back up his claim that it is not that serious. He’ll recover in 2 days and say how great he is, a bit like kim jong il’s first ever round of golf when he shot 4 hole in ones.

Rumours or conspiracy theories? Rumours have a starting point close to him and conspiracy theories are just looking at the situation and applying convoluted logic to match one's biases.

He's been exposing himself to the possibility of getting it for ages. The obvious takeaway is that he got it.

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